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TheThing

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reply to Ghastlyone

Re: Savious Makes an MMO

that sounds brutally painful


Ghastlyone
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said by TheThing:

how has WoW changed dailies?

Instead of daily quests being an optional part of the game like always before, they opted to make daily quests a mandatory requirement in order to progress in end game raiding/dungeons. You have to farm rep (through dailys) to purchase gear.

We're not just talking completing like 5 quests here. When Blizzard increases the amount of daily quests you can do a day to 48, that's when I don't bother anymore.


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To date, the only MMO I've played that I think got PvP right was DAoC. RvR was fucking badass. Why? Because I could be in with 1000 other people and not have to sit in some bullshit queue. Granted lag was terrible and I don't think they ever really worked out class balance but even that wasn't terrible. The PvE stuff was not all that bad either.

Create another game like DAoC, fix the buff bot issue, figure out how to not put in some cap on PvP so anybody can just jump in, and have decent PvE content. I'll gladly pay you $15/month.
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TheThing

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reply to Ghastlyone
how has WoW changed dailies?


Ghastlyone
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reply to Savious
My biggest gripe with WoW is the daily quests. And the new expansion they basically injected steroids into the daily quest theme. That's why I'm so glad they are pretty much non existent in GW2.

Maybe WoW will adopt GW2 style dynamic groups events someday too. GW2 leveling experience is second to none.


I AM
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reply to TheThing
LOL you have too much time on your hands.


TheThing

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reply to Savious
multiple person flying mount


I AM
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reply to Savious
Future setting. True open world FPS if you want some real pvp.


TheThing

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reply to Savious
Click for full size
A screen capture from Savious new MMO.

I tried to incorporate as many of his ideas as possible.


Savious
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said by TheThing:

skimmed, and then read you flaming GW2

I dont hate GW2, I just think it had a lot of potential that went to waste.
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TheThing

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skimmed, and then read you flaming GW2

wasn't a troll... I always thought I liked open world PvP

after GW2, I'm happy there is no open world PvP... PvP has it's place in sPvP and WvW, where it makes sense, is more balanced, more fair


Savious
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said by TheThing:

said by Savious:

said by TheThing:

I think in WoW and Tera, I can count on one hand the number of times true 1v1 open world encounters happened that were fair, and actually competitive

either I ganked someone who had like 4 mobs pulled and wasn't ready

or I was ganked by someone 10 levels above, and about 5 tiers of gear above

nothing fun, competitive, or what constitutes a "game" there

Some of the best moments in PvP have been open world.

yes and those moments in WoW were like fireflys in the summer

here and gone in a blink of an...

couldnt be sustained long term

They were a daily occurence for me in classic.
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Savious
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said by TheThing:

said by Savious:

said by TheThing:

I think WoW has proven that balancing an MMO around 1v1, 2v2 is not possible... and even arena 5v5, its all comp BS

in an MMO, balance for PvP, should be based on MASSIVE encounters... since its MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER

GW2 is attempting to do it right with WvW, there is nothing massive about getting ganked 1v1 in the open world... its nothing but griefing

Read my post.

You got me there... LOL

too tired.

hahahaha

So, basically you just trolled this post without reading anything I put?
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TheThing

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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

said by TheThing:

I think in WoW and Tera, I can count on one hand the number of times true 1v1 open world encounters happened that were fair, and actually competitive

either I ganked someone who had like 4 mobs pulled and wasn't ready

or I was ganked by someone 10 levels above, and about 5 tiers of gear above

nothing fun, competitive, or what constitutes a "game" there

Some of the best moments in PvP have been open world.

yes and those moments in WoW were like fireflys in the summer

here and gone in a blink of an...

couldnt be sustained long term


TheThing

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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

said by TheThing:

I think WoW has proven that balancing an MMO around 1v1, 2v2 is not possible... and even arena 5v5, its all comp BS

in an MMO, balance for PvP, should be based on MASSIVE encounters... since its MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER

GW2 is attempting to do it right with WvW, there is nothing massive about getting ganked 1v1 in the open world... its nothing but griefing

Read my post.

You got me there... LOL

too tired.

hahahaha


Savious
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reply to TheThing
said by TheThing:

I think in WoW and Tera, I can count on one hand the number of times true 1v1 open world encounters happened that were fair, and actually competitive

either I ganked someone who had like 4 mobs pulled and wasn't ready

or I was ganked by someone 10 levels above, and about 5 tiers of gear above

nothing fun, competitive, or what constitutes a "game" there

Some of the best moments in PvP have been open world.
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Savious
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said by TheThing:

I think WoW has proven that balancing an MMO around 1v1, 2v2 is not possible... and even arena 5v5, its all comp BS

in an MMO, balance for PvP, should be based on MASSIVE encounters... since its MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER

GW2 is attempting to do it right with WvW, there is nothing massive about getting ganked 1v1 in the open world... its nothing but griefing

Read my post. Open world PvP that makes sense and matches you against players of similiar level for action.

Griefing happens in WoW, yea. But only terrible terrible players will get griefed repeatedly. Ive had my body camped in WoW hundreds of times. I could never understand how people cant get away...
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TheThing

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reply to Savious
I think in WoW and Tera, I can count on one hand the number of times true 1v1 open world encounters happened that were fair, and actually competitive

either I ganked someone who had like 4 mobs pulled and wasn't ready

or I was ganked by someone 10 levels above, and about 5 tiers of gear above

nothing fun, competitive, or what constitutes a "game" there


TheThing

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reply to Savious
I think WoW has proven that balancing an MMO around 1v1, 2v2 is not possible... and even arena 5v5, its all comp BS

in an MMO, balance for PvP, should be based on MASSIVE encounters... since its MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER

GW2 is attempting to do it right with WvW, there is nothing massive about getting ganked 1v1 in the open world... its nothing but griefing


Savious
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said by TheThing:

I've played probably 100 mmos

The 2 best?

#1 - GW2
#2 - WoW

and WoW has some serious catching up to do...

What is the biggest part of an MMO?

THE OPEN WORLD

which mmo has by far the best open world? GW2

/endthread

First off, this thread isnt a discussion about what is better between GW2 and WoW. So your /endthread just makes you look like a jackass.

Secondly, did you read what I posted? I put that GW2's world is the basis for my design, except Ive added several things that make the game a lot more interesting.

Having an open world where the only opponents will only ever be NPCs is bland and unexciting.
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TheThing

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I've played probably 100 mmos

The 2 best?

#1 - GW2
#2 - WoW

and WoW has some serious catching up to do...

What is the biggest part of an MMO?

THE OPEN WORLD

which mmo has by far the best open world? GW2

/endthread


Savious
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reply to pr1mo
50+ hours.


pr1mo
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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

I feel its a generally accepted opinion out there right now. Most MMO's have big holes in them that make them very unappealing to a large chunk of players.

I really dont see GW2 lasting much longer.

I see you knocking on GW2 in pretty much every one of your posts, yet I think you played for a mere what...10 hours?


Savious
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said by pr1mo:

said by Savious:

said by Krisnatharok:

wat

Every other MMO sucks right now. I feel like what players want and what they are getting are too far apart.

GW2 has great leveling mechanics, but PvP is lacking. WoW has great PvP, but PvE is boring and simplified.

That's just your opinion though...and what is out isn't what YOU want so you have decided they suck...there's a shitload of people playing GW2 so it must not suck as much as you think.

I feel its a generally accepted opinion out there right now. Most MMO's have big holes in them that make them very unappealing to a large chunk of players.

I really dont see GW2 lasting much longer.
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pr1mo
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said by Savious:

said by Krisnatharok:

wat

Every other MMO sucks right now. I feel like what players want and what they are getting are too far apart.

GW2 has great leveling mechanics, but PvP is lacking. WoW has great PvP, but PvE is boring and simplified.

That's just your opinion though...and what is out isn't what YOU want so you have decided they suck...there's a shitload of people playing GW2 so it must not suck as much as you think.


Savious
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reply to TheThing
said by TheThing:

said by Savious:

said by Krisnatharok:

wat

WoW has great PvP,

what? I guess perma inbalanced is a good thing, and I guess the mistake of arena is a good thing

A) WoW's PvP setup (BG, arena, world and dueling) is good
B) A lot of people enjoy arena, but arent forced into it if they want to PvP
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TheThing

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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

said by Krisnatharok:

wat

WoW has great PvP,

what? I guess perma inbalanced is a good thing, and I guess the mistake of arena is a good thing


Savious
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said by Krisnatharok:

wat

Every other MMO sucks right now. I feel like what players want and what they are getting are too far apart.

GW2 has great leveling mechanics, but PvP is lacking. WoW has great PvP, but PvE is boring and simplified.
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Krisnatharok
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wat


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I like your storyline but I'm not much of an MMO player, so I'll leave everything else to seasoned MMO players.

I like Sci-Fi way better than fantasy and the genre is probably due for a kick ass sci-fi mmo.

Good luck.
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