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Savious
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reply to TheThing

Re: Savious Makes an MMO

said by TheThing:

said by Savious:

said by TheThing:

I think in WoW and Tera, I can count on one hand the number of times true 1v1 open world encounters happened that were fair, and actually competitive

either I ganked someone who had like 4 mobs pulled and wasn't ready

or I was ganked by someone 10 levels above, and about 5 tiers of gear above

nothing fun, competitive, or what constitutes a "game" there

Some of the best moments in PvP have been open world.

yes and those moments in WoW were like fireflys in the summer

here and gone in a blink of an...

couldnt be sustained long term

They were a daily occurence for me in classic.
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TheThing

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skimmed, and then read you flaming GW2

wasn't a troll... I always thought I liked open world PvP

after GW2, I'm happy there is no open world PvP... PvP has it's place in sPvP and WvW, where it makes sense, is more balanced, more fair


Savious
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said by TheThing:

skimmed, and then read you flaming GW2

I dont hate GW2, I just think it had a lot of potential that went to waste.
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TheThing

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Click for full size
A screen capture from Savious new MMO.

I tried to incorporate as many of his ideas as possible.


I AM
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reply to Savious
Future setting. True open world FPS if you want some real pvp.


TheThing

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reply to Savious
multiple person flying mount


I AM
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reply to TheThing
LOL you have too much time on your hands.


Ghastlyone
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reply to Savious
My biggest gripe with WoW is the daily quests. And the new expansion they basically injected steroids into the daily quest theme. That's why I'm so glad they are pretty much non existent in GW2.

Maybe WoW will adopt GW2 style dynamic groups events someday too. GW2 leveling experience is second to none.


TheThing

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how has WoW changed dailies?


Badger3k
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To date, the only MMO I've played that I think got PvP right was DAoC. RvR was fucking badass. Why? Because I could be in with 1000 other people and not have to sit in some bullshit queue. Granted lag was terrible and I don't think they ever really worked out class balance but even that wasn't terrible. The PvE stuff was not all that bad either.

Create another game like DAoC, fix the buff bot issue, figure out how to not put in some cap on PvP so anybody can just jump in, and have decent PvE content. I'll gladly pay you $15/month.
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Ghastlyone
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said by TheThing:

how has WoW changed dailies?

Instead of daily quests being an optional part of the game like always before, they opted to make daily quests a mandatory requirement in order to progress in end game raiding/dungeons. You have to farm rep (through dailys) to purchase gear.

We're not just talking completing like 5 quests here. When Blizzard increases the amount of daily quests you can do a day to 48, that's when I don't bother anymore.


TheThing

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that sounds brutally painful


Savious
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said by Badger3k:

fix the buff bot issue.

Did you ever play Star Wars Galaxies, directly after release?

Coronet Buffbots all day.
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Savious
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said by TheThing:

A screen capture from Savious new MMO.

I tried to incorporate as many of his ideas as possible.

Nice work, you can be my art director. I see your skills with photoshop are unmatched by any 5 year old.
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Zupe
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reply to Savious
said by Savious:

Read my post. Open world PvP that makes sense and matches you against players of similiar level for action.

Griefing happens in WoW, yea. But only terrible terrible players will get griefed repeatedly. Ive had my body camped in WoW hundreds of times. I could never understand how people cant get away...

If open world PvP is mandatory for progress, or unavoidable due to no flagging, realm choice, etc., you're going to lose out on a significant chunk of the possible player population from the start that don't care for PvP or only like to participate in it when they're in the mood. If your goal is a game where PvP is the main/only focus, I guess that would be fine, but there's a reason WoW et al. have PvE and PvP servers, and several other games limit PvP to specific areas.
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I AM
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reply to Ghastlyone
said by Ghastlyone:

said by TheThing:

how has WoW changed dailies?

Instead of daily quests being an optional part of the game like always before, they opted to make daily quests a mandatory requirement in order to progress in end game raiding/dungeons. You have to farm rep (through dailys) to purchase gear.

We're not just talking completing like 5 quests here. When Blizzard increases the amount of daily quests you can do a day to 48, that's when I don't bother anymore.

This is their way of making you log in EVERYDAY! This is why bots exist.


Phantasee

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said by TheThing:

I've played probably 100 mmos

The 2 best?

#1 - GW2
#2 - WoW

and WoW has some serious catching up to do...

What is the biggest part of an MMO?

THE OPEN WORLD

which mmo has by far the best open world? GW2

/endthread

Opinions don't /endthread


TheThing

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well, that's just like your opinion man


Phantasee

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said by TheThing:

well, that's just like your opinion man

/endthread


Savious
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reply to Zupe
said by Zupe:

said by Savious:

Read my post. Open world PvP that makes sense and matches you against players of similiar level for action.

Griefing happens in WoW, yea. But only terrible terrible players will get griefed repeatedly. Ive had my body camped in WoW hundreds of times. I could never understand how people cant get away...

If open world PvP is mandatory for progress, or unavoidable due to no flagging, realm choice, etc., you're going to lose out on a significant chunk of the possible player population from the start that don't care for PvP or only like to participate in it when they're in the mood. If your goal is a game where PvP is the main/only focus, I guess that would be fine, but there's a reason WoW et al. have PvE and PvP servers, and several other games limit PvP to specific areas.

Hmm, good point. I just liked the idea of having conflict on the border zones and having quest that actually involved players completing missions involving each other. I was picturing more of a 1v1 type of deal, with each player having a few NPC's on their side that represented similiar classes as you would see in game.

I suppose it could be made so that these quest arent mandatory, but would provide significant benefit over traditional leveling options.
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Savious
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Im picturing something that has a more massive and epic feeling attached to it for later leveling than "collect 8 hooty blobs and 5 zippy zaps" or "kill 7 diddly whops and 5 dingle dangles".

Im picturing the border zones to be full of action, like when you first stepped through the portal starting BC. Explosions and firefights all across the border, jets flying over head doing bombing runs, things like that.
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Savious
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reply to Savious
What do you guys think of the classes so far?


TheThing

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pick 10 dingle berries from sleeping woodsmen


Ghastlyone
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said by TheThing:

well, that's just like your opinion man

I have a strange feeling he Alt Tabbed to post that, while sitting in Orgrimmar/Stormwind waiting for his dungeon queue to pop.


TheThing

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reply to Savious
he's got no time to sit around! he needs to grind those dailies!


Savious
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reply to Ghastlyone

THE THING!!!1!!11!
said by Ghastlyone:

said by TheThing:

well, that's just like your opinion man

I have a strange feeling he Alt Tabbed to post that, while sitting in Orgrimmar/Stormwind waiting for his dungeon queue to pop.

No, it was in between his job.
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Savious
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said by TheThing:

he's got no time to sit around! he needs to grind those dailies!

+1 for being oblivious
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TheThing

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reply to Savious
I don't play WoW... and wtf man... where'd you get that pick of me from?

I'm trying to get my eyebrows to connect to my beard!


Archivis
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reply to Savious
tl;dr man


Savious
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said by Archivis:

tl;dr man

Man...
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