 NanoprobeLooking for cures in memory of MomPremium
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Re: HCC GPU app close to going live IT HAS LAUNCHED said by syslock:What PCI only GPU cards work?
Not pci express.
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kudos:1 | reply to syslock
said by syslock:What PCI only GPU cards work?
Not pci express.
Everything I have looked up so far is on the bad list.
Sill looking...
If I recall correctly from SETI forums, its not worth it. |
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 SrsBsns
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Oklahoma City, OK | reply to Nanoprobe
What does the avg_ncpus and max_ncpus command do in the app_info.xml files?
I run GPU crunching only and not sure if they are needed. I cant seem to wrap my head around what they do. |
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kudos:1 | said by SrsBsns:What does the avg_ncpus and max_ncpus command do in the app_info.xml files?
I run GPU crunching only and not sure if they are needed. I cant seem to wrap my head around what they do.
You should stop using app_info but instead use app_config. app_config.xml (example if you have 7970 & 8 core CPU): <app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>10</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.10</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.8</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
Nanoprobe  and I, have been running 10 instances on our 7970 with 8 core cpu. To answer your question, avg_ncpus and max_ncpus, they are used for allocating CPU %. So to run 10 instance on an 8 core cpu, your ave and max would be .80 |
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Just an FYI. If you want to run an app_config file that allows you to run multiple GPU tasks at the same time you'll have to upgrade your version of boinc to 7.0.42. It will not work with any version lower than that. It's very simple to set up if you'd like to try it and I can give you easy to follow instructions. All I need to know is your OS, type of video card and size of PSU. |
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| Since I had a power outage today I decided to change over from an app_info setup to an app_config setup. I used the configuration below, let me know what you think. <app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>10</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.2</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.8</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
System hardware Intel Core i7 2600K 2 x ATI Radeon HD7950 16GB RAM Also tomorrow I'm going to be installing a GTX 580 into my workstation, it's a dual Xeon E5440 box with 12GB of RAM. I'm thinking since the Nvidia line is so much weaker in the compute space that this box will likely run a mix of gpu and cpu tasks. What are your thoughts? --
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kudos:1 | said by DadeMurphy:Since I had a power outage today I decided to change over from an app_info setup to an app_config setup. I used the configuration below, let me know what you think.
<app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>10</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.2</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.8</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
System hardware Intel Core i7 2600K 2 x ATI Radeon HD7950 16GB RAM Also tomorrow I'm going to be installing a GTX 580 into my workstation, it's a dual Xeon E5440 box with 12GB of RAM. I'm thinking since the Nvidia line is so much weaker in the compute space that this box will likely run a mix of gpu and cpu tasks. What are your thoughts? Your app_config looks good as a starting point. Increase as needed. You will probably end up running 7 instances for each gpu. For your workstation, you can use this: <app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>2</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.50</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>1</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
In my experience with 580, 2 was the max. |
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Does that app-config give you 5 or 10 tasks on each card?
Probably a good call on the 580. Maybe a 50/50 split on the CPU cores for starters and then some trial and error to find the best mix.
EDIT: Glenn knows about Nvidia. Follow his lead on the tasks for that card. You can add code to his proposed app_config file to split up your remaining CPU cores on other tasks any way you'd like. |
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kudos:1 | said by Nanoprobe:Does that app-config give you 5 or 10 tasks on each card?
Its should be 5 per card. On my dual 7970, I have this app_config which runs 9 per card: <app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>18</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.11</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.66</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
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glennaxl got it right, the config I'm using gives me 5 per card for 10 total.
I'm going to try out running 2 gpu tasks on my card and 5 cpu tasks on my workstation (The system with the gtx580). This will leave one core unloaded on my workstation and should give me a very good balance of WUs processed/system responsiveness (this is my main work rig and I don't want it to bog down on me).
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said by Nanoprobe:Just an FYI. If you want to run an app_config file that allows you to run multiple GPU tasks at the same time you'll have to upgrade your version of boinc to 7.0.42. It will not work with any version lower than that. It's very simple to set up if you'd like to try it and I can give you easy to follow instructions. All I need to know is your OS, type of video card and size of PSU.
I'm running Win 7 x64 Enterprise with two 7970Ghz editions and a 1200 watt PSU.
This is my current config using BOINC 7.0.28 and it seems to be working with 6 GPU tasks per card. I did this because I have a 3930K so there is one task per CPU thread. I only want to crunch on the video cards.
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kudos:1 | @SrsBsns 1: Set the project to "No new task" 2: Quit BOINC 3: Edit app_info.xml 4: Set avg_ncpus = .75 5: Set max_ncpus = .75 6: count = .12 7: Save 8: Run BOINC Once you run out if task, rename app_info.xml to app_info.old Since you only want to crunch on GPU, make sure your Device Profile is set accordingly. » secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms···vices.doUpgrade your BOINC to version 7.0.42 Run BOINC Check if you have GPU Task If you have, create projects\www.worldcommunitygrid.org\ app_config.xml
app_config.xml (Contents):
<app_config>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<max_concurrent>18</max_concurrent>
<gpu_versions>
<gpu_usage>.11</gpu_usage>
<cpu_usage>.66</cpu_usage>
</gpu_versions>
</app>
</app_config>
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I just repaired one desktop and will be putting another into service soon. The one I just fixed is an HP with PCI-e x16 slot, but no 12 volt rail for graphics. So it got me to thinking, "What is the best GPU you can get that doesn't require a 12 volt rail?"
I found a thread on Tom's Hardware, but it's 2 years old. So I'm not sure if there is anything newer out that would trump what they listed. But here it is.
»www.tomshardware.com/forum/28715···al-power
I checked out their reccomendations and the best card that can still be easily found seems to be the Radeon HD 5670. I'm wondering what other options are available without upgrading the PS.
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| A little more research shows that the HD 6670 and HD 7750 are both better performers. The 7750 seems to be top end from what I can see. Any other options for a GPU that doesn't require an external power connection?
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| said by The Goober:A little more research shows that the HD 6670 and HD 7750 are both better performers. The 7750 seems to be top end from what I can see. Any other options for a GPU that doesn't require an external power connection?
The 7750 is the best that doesn't require an additional 6 pin PCI-E connector. You can buy 4 pin molex (the ones that power HDDs) to 6 pin PCI-E adapters for a few bucks and run higher capacity cards if that is a choice for you. Most of the newer cards come with the adapters. Just check before you buy.
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| Ok, I thought I posted this before, but I guess I forgot. My GeForce GT430 gets computation errors on a fresh install. I don't know if all the cards are like this, but I have to keep a CPU core available for the GPU to crunch. So on this Athlon x2 I'm crunching one CPU unit and one GPU unit.
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| said by The Goober:Ok, I thought I posted this before, but I guess I forgot. My GeForce GT430 gets computation errors on a fresh install. I don't know if all the cards are like this, but I have to keep a CPU core available for the GPU to crunch. So on this Athlon x2 I'm crunching one CPU unit and one GPU unit.
I CPU core per task is required for Nvidia cards. With ATI cards you can split the CPU cores (run 2 tasks or more per CPU core depending on your hardware) and run multiple tasks.
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