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despe666

join:2009-06-20
Montreal, QC
reply to decx

Re: [Grandfathered Plans] Bell cut my Internet

said by decx:

Why is that? What a losing provider does after a port out is up to the losing provider. All the receiving provider does is submits the port request.

Quite easy to understand actually. There must be an about equal number of Bell->Rogers ports than Rogers->Bell ports. If Bell gives Rogers a hard time, Rogers can give a hard time to Bell in return. Voip.ms does not have that kind of leverage.


QuantumPimp

join:2012-02-19
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said by despe666:

said by decx:

Why is that? What a losing provider does after a port out is up to the losing provider. All the receiving provider does is submits the port request.

Quite easy to understand actually. There must be an about equal number of Bell->Rogers ports than Rogers->Bell ports. If Bell gives Rogers a hard time, Rogers can give a hard time to Bell in return. Voip.ms does not have that kind of leverage.

Agreed. A while back I worked on VoIP provisioning systems for Tier 1 - Tier 3 service providers world wide. The actual provisioning steps for LNP activations were exclusively a business-to-business agreement. The legal requirement did not specify how to make the process seamless, only the minimum required elements to make LNP functional.

Bell and Rogers, as mid-sized Tier 2 providers in the same market, have probably worked out some of the kinks between themselves.

I'm still confused why Bell doesn't handle the process more gracefully for their own suite of services.

decx
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join:2002-06-07
Vancouver, BC
reply to nointernet

The point is regardless of who is the receiving provider, the what the loosing provider do after (whether it cancels the account or leave it active but orphaned) has nothing to do with the receiving provider. Bell isn't going to cancel an account because it's ported to Rogers but leave it active because it's ported to Voip.ms. If there is a difference in results it because an oversight happened somewhere. Normally most providers cancel an account upon port out.

Btw, most Voip providers like VoIP.ms don't submit ports to the loosing provider by themselves. They're submitted through the provider's their upstream ILECs like ISP Telecom (for Voip.ms in much of Ontario). So LNP transactions between Bell and the receiving provider would actually be quite substantial.