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Tig

join:2006-06-29
Carrying Place, ON
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reply to Mr Matt

Re: Using Dry Ice for Cooling backup for refrigerator?

said by Mr Matt:

The problem is keeping the door closed from when. The power company will not tell what time they intend to interrupt power nor will they tell me which day the 16th or 17th.

Turn a lamp on. Place it on top of the fridge. If the lamp is not lit. Do not open the fridge.

AsherN

join:2010-08-23
Thornhill, ON

reply to Mr Matt

said by Mr Matt:

The problem is keeping the door closed from when. The power company will not tell what time they intend to interrupt power nor will they tell me which day the 16th or 17th.

When the power goes off in the house, stop opening the door. When it comes back, you're OK.

Notice their windows are for when most people are at work.


Sc0tt
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join:2000-11-13
Stockholm, NJ

reply to Mr Matt
we regularly have power outages that last hours, if not days. i HATE JCP&L.

either get a generator, or just go out for a few hours.

if you decide to stay and you open it two or three times, you'll be fine. maybe pack the fridge with coors light to...... uhhhhh.....keep everything else cold?



fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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said by Sc0tt:

we regularly have power outages that last hours, if not days. i HATE JCP&L.

either get a generator, or just go out for a few hours.

if you decide to stay and you open it two or three times, you'll be fine. maybe pack the fridge with coors light to...... uhhhhh.....keep everything else cold?

I am so glad we don't have JCP&L here (Sussex REC is our poco).

Bob
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey

JCP&L customer here. We don't have any significant problems.



norton

join:2005-08-03
Holland, MI

when dry ice melts it makes a great deal of gas and the fridge door would have a great deal of pressure on it from this melting.

I like the idea of a frozen milk jug or too.



Sc0tt
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join:2000-11-13
Stockholm, NJ

reply to Bob

said by Bob:

JCP&L customer here. We don't have any significant problems.

congratulations. the rest of us do. especially in the northwest.

did you not see the huge shitstorm on the news about their storm response and the week plus outages last October?

Bob
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
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said by Sc0tt:

did you not see the huge shitstorm on the news about their storm response and the week plus outages last October?

Sure, and my question is: How much higher do you want your electric rates to be to pay for what's necessary to avoid such outages? Having extra people and equipment available to handle once-in-a-decade outages costs a lot of money.


dennismurphy
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join:2002-11-19
Parsippany, NJ
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said by Bob:

said by Sc0tt:

did you not see the huge shitstorm on the news about their storm response and the week plus outages last October?

Sure, and my question is: How much higher do you want your electric rates to be to pay for what's necessary to avoid such outages? Having extra people and equipment available to handle once-in-a-decade outages costs a lot of money.

That's a complete BS answer ... PSE&G has no problem providing extra equipment and manpower.... And indeed, they are (rightfully) proud of their reliability record.

I'm stuck in JCP&L territory, and they are a third-world energy company. Wish it were PSE&G.

Bob
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey

How much higher do you want your electric rates to be to pay for what's necessary to avoid such outages?



dennismurphy
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Parsippany, NJ
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said by Bob:

How much higher do you want your electric rates to be to pay for what's necessary to avoid such outages?

Same rate PSE&G customers pay. Why can they achieve it at a similar rate but JCP&L can't?


Sc0tt
Kneedragger
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join:2000-11-13
Stockholm, NJ

reply to dennismurphy

said by dennismurphy:

said by Bob:

said by Sc0tt:

did you not see the huge shitstorm on the news about their storm response and the week plus outages last October?

Sure, and my question is: How much higher do you want your electric rates to be to pay for what's necessary to avoid such outages? Having extra people and equipment available to handle once-in-a-decade outages costs a lot of money.

That's a complete BS answer ... PSE&G has no problem providing extra equipment and manpower.... And indeed, they are (rightfully) proud of their reliability record.

I'm stuck in JCP&L territory, and they are a third-world energy company. Wish it were PSE&G.

exactly. my M.I.L. has PSE&G and pays lower rates for much better service.

.........and these outages aren't "once in a decade". they are several times a year. i can recall at least 15 times where i have lost power for a day or longer in my 7 years in JCP&L' s crappy service.

and just for the record, i am in a development. not in a shack in the middle of nowhere.


Generacster

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reply to Bob

said by Bob:

How much higher do you want your electric rates to be to pay for what's necessary to avoid such outages?

A vast majority of the outages in our area are caused by trees or limbs that fall on power lines. The lines seldom ever fail on their own.

The cure to power outages is a Stihl chainsaw but most people don't find that acceptable.

Bob
Account deleted

join:2012-07-22
New Jersey

reply to dennismurphy
Oh, because Union County looks just like Sussex County, right?



Sc0tt
Kneedragger
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join:2000-11-13
Stockholm, NJ

said by Bob:

Oh, because Union County looks just like Sussex County, right?

thank God, no. but to each their own.

»wall.patch.com/articles/jcp-l-re···itteeman

»newjerseyhills.com/madison_eagle···87a.html

»www.northjersey.com/news/171284921_JCP.html

»hillsborough.patch.com/articles/···ovements

»newjerseyhills.com/hunterdon_rev···87a.html

»articles.philly.com/2012-09-16/n···ustomers

...............and the list goes on. i guess you're the exception to the norm. By the way, my entire area had the chainsaw weilding masses come through, and reliability still sucks. i thank them for all the free firewood though

anyway, back on topic...................


dennismurphy
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Parsippany, NJ
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reply to Bob

said by Bob:

Oh, because Union County looks just like Sussex County, right?

I'm in Morris County, but thanks for playing.

No excuses. JCP&L has spent many years running at bare minimums and delaying necessary improvements. It's now coming home to roost.

Meanwhile, PS&G continually invests in infrastructure, and it shows.

I stand by my statement - JCP&L is a third-world energy company. They absolutely suck.


Sc0tt
Kneedragger
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join:2000-11-13
Stockholm, NJ

said by dennismurphy:

I stand by my statement - JCP&L is a third-world energy company. They absolutely suck.

you are being too kind LOL.

Bob
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey
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reply to dennismurphy
Urban areas have more customers and fewer trees per street mile. So PSE&G has more money and fewer trees. OK? You got it? Understand? It's not complicated.

So answer the question: How much more do you want to pay?

Except the the east coast blackout several years ago (2004??), power here has never been off more than 4 hours.

Oh, and your beloved PSE&G kept me in the cold for two days with natural gas trouble. It was JCP&L's electric and a couple portable heaters that kept us warm.



SmokChsr
Who let the magic smoke out?
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join:2006-03-17
Saint Augustine, FL

reply to Mr Matt
What I have and use is not gallon jugs, but 2 liter bottles for ice ballast. They fit a bit better and work just fine. One thing to also do to prevent them from splitting (this goes for the gallon jugs as well) is to fill them to about 1.5" from the top, then squeeze them to expel the extra air and cap.

Also if you add 1-2 oz of denatured alcohol to them it will reduce their freezing point causing it to stay below freezing as it thaws out. this will help keep frozen food frozen. If you do that just be sure to mark the bottles so you don't use them for drinking water after they are thawed.



Sc0tt
Kneedragger
Premium
join:2000-11-13
Stockholm, NJ

reply to Bob
read: JERSEY CITY power & light.

2 days isn't 10+ without power.


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