KearnstdElf WizardPremium
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Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to Snuffbox
Re: [MoP] 15% Healing Nerf - Why? nerfing self healing is a bad thing, I loved that feature of my Shadow Priest and my Enh Shaman can self heal rather well too. Makes for more exciting soloing of quest mobs in larger groups.
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 Snuffboxir nice irlPremium
join:2011-04-15
Milwaukee, WI
kudos:4 | Fortunately they don't balance this game around solo questing at all. So I don't believe that will be considered.
Either way, I'm not arguing for hybrid nerfs.
I'm simply frustrated that arena has turned into triple DPS or go home. This playstyle is tunnelvisioned and rewards baddies.
To be clear, I play both healers and DPS so this is not a "my class got nerfed" QQ thread. |
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The pet has about 250k health and dies very fast just need to kill it twice and CC healer. Also Pet AI is pretty bad as jumping off levels make him run a long way without doing dmg. But that's just what 2300+ teams are doing right now. Bestial wrath lasts 10 sec after that all other CC's are good to go. Avatar last 20sec and berserker rage is 6 sec so when they use a CD CC someone else or use a CD or play defensive and get out of a position where they can kill you.
As for getting Globaled in arena maybe vs 3 dps or are you talking BG's?
Arena's before were stupid when 3v3 games were 30min+ because healing was so good, they had to change something. I find that gag order making a warrior's interupt silence for 3 sec is going to go as its very op. Even with a warrior and a hunter on me i can still live through CDs and kite well, now if you add another I drop very fast as it should be. |
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Snuffboxir nice irlPremium
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Milwaukee, WI
kudos:4 | said by Cows:The pet has about 250k health and dies very fast just need to kill it twice and CC healer. Also Pet AI is pretty bad as jumping off levels make him run a long way without doing dmg. But that's just what 2300+ teams are doing right now. It's not nearly that simple.
250k health - while healer heals him, you're taking damage and blowing defensive CDs, all the while the Warrior and Huntard aren't having to use ANY defensive CD's and are all out offensive.
You kill the pet, and he's instant summoned with even more attention from the healer, who also hasn't had to blow any CD's because the pet has been focused.
With my warrior, I simply open with zerker and focus the healer (no, I'm not talking about BG's...) coordinating Beastial Wrath with the huntard and no healer can live through it so far without blowing virtually all of his CD's, significant mana, and his DPS peeling.
Have you actually played this? Or are you just reading forums that say "kill the hunter pet"?
said by Cows:Arena's before were stupid when 3v3 games were 30min+ because healing was so good, they had to change something. Balanced and long games don't correlate. I have no problem with short games. If a team focuses a healer and lets the Spriest and Warlock free cast it's their own fault for losing in the first three minutes of the game.
I will continue running Warrior/Huntard/Dk - but it's a complete joke of skilless spam. I felt better playing Beast Cleave back in the day. |
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 Venom1
join:2011-10-21
Augusta, GA | reply to Kearnstd
said by Kearnstd:nerfing self healing is a bad thing, I loved that feature of my Shadow Priest and my Enh Shaman can self heal rather well too. Makes for more exciting soloing of quest mobs in larger groups.
"Healing and shielding effects applied to players that have been involved in PvP combat are now reduced by 15%"
tl:dr, your dailies are not affected.
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Evans, GA
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| said by Venom1:said by Kearnstd:nerfing self healing is a bad thing, I loved that feature of my Shadow Priest and my Enh Shaman can self heal rather well too. Makes for more exciting soloing of quest mobs in larger groups.
"Healing and shielding effects applied to players that have been involved in PvP combat are now reduced by 15%" tl:dr, your dailies are not affected. they might be. pvp combat happens a lot by accident while doing dailies.
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What are your two partners doing while you are getting pelted by the hunter and warrior?
Also are you standing out in the open while the hunter a warrior beat you?
I have done this, have you? or have you been reading the wow forums too much?
Either way I think we will see at least a month before any nerfs come to let everyone gear up and see how things settle. |
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Venom1
join:2011-10-21
Augusta, GA | reply to Immer
lol, too true, my ret paladin is proof of this two days ago, and i was not wearing my pvp crafted set.
please excuse my curtness in the reply to Kearnstd, I had my pvp hat on. what I meant was, the healing/shielding nerf will not affect players that are engaged in PvE content.
It will be interesting to see how long "have been involved in PvP combat" lasts. If it lasts 20 mins, it will be an issue if we get jumped say, as we port into a raid... If it lasts 5 minutes (based on PvP flag in starter zones) maybe we just wait it out.
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Snuffboxir nice irlPremium
join:2011-04-15
Milwaukee, WI
kudos:4 | reply to Cows
said by Cows:What are your two partners doing while you are getting pelted by the hunter and warrior?
As Rshaman/Mage/Spriest we've beat this comp against bad players by going extremely hard on the healer and purge/spellsteal spamming forcing the Warrior and Huntard to stop DPSing and peel.
This only works against bads.
said by Cows:are you standing out in the open while the hunter a warrior beat you?
Your ignorance is showing. Please count the number of stuns/silences the warrior alone has, and how many trinkets I have. Then, remember above as we discussed that my teammates cannot Poly/Stun/Fear/Root the BM Huntard or Warrior.
You appear to be new to this. And or playing with a Hunter/Warrior?
Haha, you're the first person so relentlessly trying to justify these classes. |
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 bTU
join:2009-04-22
Aurora, CO | reply to Snuffbox
And rogues just get laughed at when you try to mention doing arenas. 
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Snuffboxir nice irlPremium
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kudos:4 | said by bTU:And rogues just get laughed at when you try to mention doing arenas.
I know... mine's benched. Originally he was giong to be my first leveled. |
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Snuffboxir nice irlPremium
join:2011-04-15
Milwaukee, WI
kudos:4 | reply to Snuffbox
Cow, this it taking up too much of my time.
You win, Warriors and Huntards are completely fine, I'm just bad.
Good luck. |
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Venom1
join:2011-10-21
Augusta, GA | reply to Snuffbox
said by Snuffbox:said by bTU:And rogues just get laughed at when you try to mention doing arenas.
I know... mine's benched. Originally he was giong to be my first leveled. mine too
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bTU
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Aurora, CO | said by Venom1:said by Snuffbox:said by bTU:And rogues just get laughed at when you try to mention doing arenas.
I know... mine's benched. Originally he was giong to be my first leveled. mine too Mine was my first leveled. And the thought of running pandaria quest chains and starting more rep dailies again makes me want to cry blood.
My warrior is only lvl 46, so I don't see that one getting max leveled soon.
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What i have been doing is actively kiting them and using barkskin and might of Ursoc when i think i might get bursted on. but i really watch the hunter pet and warrior to try and keep away. Once he hits Stampe i have to avoid silence shot. Bestial wrath i dont worry about much.
As for what i play:
Resto Druid
Warrior
Mage
Preist is 88
DK is 88
Hunter i will likely level up next as they are very strong right now.
I really don't care what class they nerf or buff i will be playing them all, and i prefer to try and find ways to deal with things rather than quitting.
As for the comp you run with triple DPS yes it is very good but how do you do vs Warr, feral hpal? and Lock, mage teams as i would think those teams could melt your DK. |
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ImmerGentlemanPremium
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Evans, GA
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| Shouldn't all of these comp discussions bear the caveat of what bracket you guys find yourselves competing in? There are breakpoint/thresholds where comps tend to balance out and shine, right? maybe that will matter after a couple of weeks of arenas have gone by to establish ranks.
• sub 15000
• 1500 - 2400
• 2400+
just a thought... |
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cymraegThread KillerPremium
join:2011-06-07
Dodge, NE | they didnt reset mmr immer so what you have now is what you had last season |
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ahhhhhhh...
you hear that? just got a hardon...
you know why? GW2 instead of WoW...
good riddance to bad rubbish... I'm surprised to hear PvP in WoW isn't balanced... maybe at 95 it will be |
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| said by TheThing:ahhhhhhh...
you hear that? just got a hardon...
you know why? GW2 instead of WoW...
good riddance to bad rubbish... I'm surprised to hear PvP in WoW isn't balanced... maybe at 95 it will be
Uhmm...what? |
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ImmerGentlemanPremium
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kudos:6 | drive-by trolling... nothing to see here. |
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