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reply to viperlmw

Re: Has noone here noticed

said by viperlmw:

As for the Goose/Gander issue, any backdoor access by our gov't into US networks is written into law (CALEA, for example).

CALEA was passed so the FBI (a civilian LEA) could have access to digital telco networks for legal court approved wiretapping in individual cases. This is perfectly legal and I don't think most people have a problem with it.

Now, since you have obviously been living under a rock for the last 10 years, let me bring you up to speed.

What most people are concerned with is NSA's (a military agency and a wing of the DoD) illegal and unconstitutional wiretapping of *everyone*. No court order. No oversight. No Nothing.

NSA (just like CIA) is supposed to be for *foreign* intelligence only. However, after 9/11, Bush in all his infinite wisdom, decided that this should change and NSA should be given free reign to monitor all Americans in a big electronic dragnet without any sort of legal oversight. Lawsuits were brought and NSA simply dodged them by declaring "state secrets" which means a court never gets to even hear the case. At that point ACLU realized that suing the NSA was hopeless, so they started to bring the suits against the telcos who were involved. Bush then decides to make telcos immune to lawsuits by convincing Congress to pass a law granting them retroactive immunity.

So this means we are stuck with our new NSA overlords and there's nothing any of us can do short of throwing every single member of Congress who approved this out on their asses. Fat chance of that happening.
Getting people to stop using windows is more or less the same as trying to get people to stop smoking tobacco products. They dont want to change; they are happy with slowly dying inside. -- munky99999


While I appreciate the back door insult, and agree about the NSA, you missed the point. Huawei is owned by the Chinese government, and it's entirely possible that they are doing mischief that only they know about. At least we have a clue about what the NSA is doing, and it is MUCH less likely to perform actions detrimental to the nations critical infrastructure.