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reply to NICK ADSL UK

Re: Mozilla Firefox 16.0.1 Final

It did update to 16.0.1. In the about:support page, on the line that says user agent, it shows 16.0 at the end. So the browser id's itself as 16.0 to web servers.



antdude
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reply to NICK ADSL UK

Got it in updated Mac OS X 10.7.5 and Windows XP Pro. SP3 through Firefox v16.0.0's internal updaters. Is it me or did it give the whole installers (Mac OS X's 32 MB and Windows' 22 MB!)?



siljaline
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Good question, Pentangle See Profile
It's a matter of choice. For software as important as my secondary Browser, the last place I would go as a primary source would not be Major Greeks nor File Hippo but that's just me.



siljaline
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reply to La Luna

Links have been posted, you should be able to fetch it via the infernal updater but not File Hippo nor Major Greeks, the latter especially.

Expand your moderator at work


siljaline
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reply to Name Game

Re: Mozilla Firefox 16.0.1 Final

I used to post the MVPS Hosts to Major Greeks discusion board. It was constantly deleted, why ?

Sites like Major Greeks are a cash cow for third party ads - bar none !!

As I said already, important software like a Browser should be downloaded at source and nowhere else.



Name Game
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I did not ask you why so no reason to repeat yourself..I also don't click on all your links when you post masses ones in a single post..but that's just me..now seems your response to chachazz went bye bye... Bad day in Black Rock Buddie.

Update: maybe they are fans of HP hosts thingie.



therube

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reply to antdude

said by antdude:

Is it me or did it give the whole installers (Mac OS X's 32 MB and Windows' 22 MB!)?

I mentioned that the page before:
quote:
And starting from 16.0 release, checking for updates, downloaded the (full, which I wasn't expecting) .mar
(XP at the time.)


La Luna
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Still nada via internal update. Finally got it via the Mozilla download page.



antdude
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reply to therube

said by therube:

said by antdude:

Is it me or did it give the whole installers (Mac OS X's 32 MB and Windows' 22 MB!)?

I mentioned that the page before:
quote:
And starting from 16.0 release, checking for updates, downloaded the (full, which I wasn't expecting) .mar
(XP at the time.)

Thanks. I guess Mozilla had to rush for this and couldn't make and test a patch version.
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Name Game
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reply to La Luna

said by La Luna:

Still nada via internal update. Finally got it via the Mozilla download page.

That was a strange one for you..now that it is updated..does the internal work too if you tried it now..or tell you all is OK ?


La Luna
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I just tried it, I didn't get the weird logout issue with DSLR, but it didn't tell me I was up to date either, just brought me back here.

Now that I've thought about it, I have it set to alert me to updates and I don't think it ever has, not even once. When I look at Show Update History in options, it's blank, like I've never updated FF.


Mele20
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reply to NICK ADSL UK

Fx 10.0.9 ESR is not yet available at least via internal updater. Mozilla says it was released on Oct 11 but I can't get it.
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Name Game
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You can read all of this from today at the link and more..but here is the last of it..

Firefox 16.0.1 is now being pushed out to the Firefox browser's auto update system and is also available to download via auto-version-detected download or from the all systems and languages page. Firefox 16.0.1 for Android is available in the Google Play store. Thunderbird 16.0.1 is also available for download. Firefox ESR 10.0.9 and Thunderbird ESR 10.0.9 are currently being quality assured and are expected to be released soon. SeaMonkey 2.13.1 has yet to appear on the project's releases page.

»www.h-online.com/open/news/item/···382.html
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Insight6

join:2012-08-25
reply to NICK ADSL UK

One of the reasons I chose FF as my default browser on my iMac box was because with my monitor resolution set at its maximum I could use the keyboard to "expand" the website or screen content to fill most of the screen with readable size text or fonts and FF would remember the increase. I didn't have to do it each and every time I went to the website, even after closing and reopening FF. Not now with the new version. Bummer.



therube

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Check to see if browser.zoom.siteSpecific is set to true in about:config.



Insight6

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Thanks for the tip but even though I understand the foundation of your message. I have no idea how to do or get to where you refer to in your post. By the way in your instructions, just to be clear, I'm talking about FF for Mac--so the interface of controls or help features and preferences is different than Windows.

Thanks again.



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said by Insight6:

Thanks for the tip but even though I understand the foundation of your message. I have no idea how to do or get to where you refer to in your post. By the way in your instructions, just to be clear, I'm talking about FF for Mac--so the interface of controls or help features and preferences is different than Windows.

Thanks again.

Type about:config in the address bar/enter. You will get a warning box, click the "I'll be careful, I promise" button. That will bring you to what therube See Profile is talking about. Scroll down or *search* for the line he indicated to check whether it's set to true or false. Left click on it to toggle between true/false. Be careful not to accidently change anything else. Not sure if it's different in FF for Mac, but give it a try.
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therube

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reply to NICK ADSL UK

Here is the exploit that affected 16.0, though its POC looks to be dead?

Firefox knows what your friends did last summer

There are two associated Mozilla bugs listed in the advisory, but (at least at the moment) neither are accessible to us peons.

Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2012-89 - defaultValue security checks not applied

This also looks to have been fixed in 16.0.1:

Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2012-88 - Miscellaneous memory safety hazards

"The Possible Impact of the Flaw

It's possible to craft code that would have the browser present the full URL paths that were visited by users, NSS Labs' Artes said. That would let hackers see what users were searching on the sites they visited.

"Additionally, with some regex work, you can have the browser provide you with usernames used on the websites," Artes said Some proof-of-concept code has been posted that displays the ability to pull cached usernames.

The historical information that can be obtained by exploiting this flaw can be used to target ad placement and other uses of this metadata regarding customers, Artes suggested.

The vulnerability doesn't let hackers see the server and domain names of other sites users have visited, Artes remarked. "

»www.technewsworld.com/story/7636···cks=true



Insight6

join:2012-08-25
reply to therube

said by therube:

Check to see if browser.zoom.siteSpecific is set to true in about:config.

Yes, it is.


Name Game
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reply to Mele20

said by Mele20:

Fx 10.0.9 ESR is not yet available at least via internal updater. Mozilla says it was released on Oct 11 but I can't get it.

It's up

»Re: Firefox 16.0 Released
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BangBang

join:2000-07-05
Fairview, NJ
reply to NICK ADSL UK

My tablet got updated to 16.0.1 and it crashes immediately upon loading. Now I have to find an older apk since google store only has the newest ver.



Name Game
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Does this help ?

»wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms/Android
they appear to have fennec-16.0.en-US.android-arm.apk on their own sever.

Ok..here are all the previous versions for android make sure you get the one for your specific device.

»ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/···eleases/


slajoh01

join:2005-04-23

I deleted FF entirely from my machine. It seems to me that the later versions are becoming unstable and more vulnerable as far as security goes than the older versions of FF.

And to mention, a lot more slower as well.

For the fans of FF, I would download the older versions or use Chrome.

This is becoming horrible.

I know no browser is perfect, but Im sticking to IE for the moment.


Mele20
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I agree but I think ALL recent and current versions of all browsers except IE have deteriorated horribly, are unstable and generally a big fat mess. I don't like IE 8 but at least it is stable and I do not have to go insane with update after update after update and IE 8 is supported for a very long time. All the browsers went bad when they decided to do rapid updates.

Even Opera is a complete mess now and that is shocking for Opera to be as broken as it is currently. And it only started when Opera felt compelled to join the constant update frenzy. I have Fx 4 and Fx 10 ESR. Fx 4 is far superior to Fx 10 ESR in terms of stability, very seldom crashing, very few problems and lacks ONLY the ability to do HTML5. In no other way is it a lesser browser than Fx10 ESR. Fx10, on the other hand, has a myriad of problems, crashes a lot, is very unstable. I can't imagine the versions since 10 how awful they must be. 10 has only one advantage over 4 ... it can do HTML5. It has one horrific disadvantage and that is the horrible plugin container.

Sea Monkey used to be a really nice browser with an email client. Now it is just as crippled by constant updates as Fx is and is just as unstable and messed up.

I prefer Opera 10...really old version or Opera 10.10. I prefer Sea Monkey 2.6 or even earlier. When I get a new computer, I will put Fx 4 on it.
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EdmundGerber

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reply to slajoh01

said by slajoh01:

I deleted FF entirely from my machine. It seems to me that the later versions are becoming unstable and more vulnerable as far as security goes than the older versions of FF.

And to mention, a lot more slower as well.

For the fans of FF, I would download the older versions or use Chrome.

This is becoming horrible.

I know no browser is perfect, but Im sticking to IE for the moment.

What's your Operating System?


Insight6

join:2012-08-25

I run both Win 7 on the PC and OS X on the iMac I too share the criticism of those that state or imply as browsers have rapidly evolved most of them have developed increasing problems with stability and compatibility problems with certain functions or programs, add-ons, plug-ins, etc.

I use IE 9 on Win 7 has it is far and away the best IE MS has ever come with and boy starting with version 4 active desktop they've come up with some dogs--but I fine IE 9 overall good.

I use FF on OS X despite a variety of problems as the default on OS X including new ones with 16.01. It seems like they are updating it every other day to a newer better version.

I also run Chrome and Safari. The latter just for TV Guide--that's all that dog is good for, a Internet TV guide, and Chrome just to stay familiar or when I have a need to use multiple browsers at the same time. Among other things Chrome is a cookie magnet--admittedly the least of its problems.



Name Game
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Chrome a cookie magnet... right.all those websites out there are just waiting to get a visit from a Chrome user..
Set it up so you get no cookies or whatever...it's easy
»support.google.com/chrome/bin/an···er=95647



Insight6

join:2012-08-25

said by Name Game:

Chrome a cookie magnet... right.all those websites out there are just waiting to get a visit from a Chrome user..
Set it up so you get no cookies or whatever...it's easy
»support.google.com/chrome/bin/an···er=95647

Yes you can set it up as you allude. However, it does take an extra step or slightly different setting in its unique settings and advanced settings interface to do that. Admittedly, an easy extra step but an extra step never the less and if you miss it, which is easy if one doesn't pay attention or use it a lot along with multiple other browsers you would be surprised at the cookies it gets, (there are different types of cookies as you know), than some other browsers.

I use OS X Snow Leopard soon to be ML and I use the outstanding cookie control program "Cookie Stumbler." The latter tells you a lot about the specific impacts of specific cookies and sites if you don't have the browser "locked" down.