 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 1 edit | [WIN7] Expanding a partition in win7 Here's a question I think is a windows problem
Ok so I started with a 2TB lun, formatted with NTFS and GPT then expanded the lun to 4TB but windows won't allow the partition to be expanded.
I tried in Win7pro x64 and win2k3-x32 nether could expand the partition size to fill the lun
Windows sees the 4TB disk but says that there isn't any space to expand The extend volume wizard shows the following Total volume size as just under 4TB Max available space as 2TB and the largest it'll let me set the select amount to is 2TB
Am I going to have to reformat? did windows somehow set the block size wrong? |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | Anyone? |
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 KramerPremium,Mod join:2000-08-03 Richmond, VA kudos:2 | Can you post a screen of disk manager showing the partition(s) on the drive. |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | I'll get the screenshot when I get home. |
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 KramerPremium,Mod join:2000-08-03 Richmond, VA kudos:2 | Usually the problem is you have something to the right of the partition you are trying to expand. There can be nothing there. It must be unallocated space. |
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 ShootistPremium join:2003-02-10 Decatur, GA kudos:3 | reply to DarkLogix Sorry what is LUN? Never seen that before.
You will more then likely need an Aftermarket Disk partitioning program. -- Shooter Ready--Stand By BEEP ******** |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | reply to Kramer said by Kramer:Usually the problem is you have something to the right of the partition you are trying to expand. There can be nothing there. It must be unallocated space. Its unallocated space.
I'm able to format it as a 2nd partition but that's not what I want to do. |
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| reply to Shootist said by Shootist:Sorry what is LUN? Never seen that before.
Assuming he isn't misusing the term, he is using a raid controller of some type which he hasn't mentioned as yet and "might" be contributing to the problem. |
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| said by aguen:said by Shootist:Sorry what is LUN? Never seen that before.
Assuming he isn't misusing the term, he is using a raid controller of some type which he hasn't mentioned as yet and "might" be contributing to the problem. Well I will wait for the OP to answer but thanks. But if it is some type of RAID array you may be correct. -- Shooter Ready--Stand By BEEP ******** |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | reply to aguen said by aguen:said by Shootist:Sorry what is LUN? Never seen that before.
Assuming he isn't misusing the term, he is using a raid controller of some type which he hasn't mentioned as yet and "might" be contributing to the problem. I'm using an iSCSI array, 3x 2TB drives in raid 5.
I started it with 2x 2TB drives in raid1 and added a 3rd and then migrated it to raid 5 then expanded the iSCSI LUN to 4TB.
So far from e-mail support with the maker of the array I should be able to expand the partition in win7x64 pro, but I'm not. |
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| reply to DarkLogix So the array is strictly for storage purposes and you are trying to mount the 4 TB as one logical volume?
What type of disk volume (GPT or MBR) is the OS installed in on the machine running the iSCSI client? Who/what is providing the iSCSI target function at the array? |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | The array (IE the target is a QNAP TS-469-Pro)
the C drive of my computer is MBR (as you can only have a GPT boot drive if you have a UEFI boot system)
the Volume that shows up in disk manager is formatted as GPT NTFS (as mentioned in the OP.)
The computer sees the 4TB volume but can't expand the 2TB partition on it to fill the volume. (I can make a partition on the 2nd 2TB but it won't let me make the 1st partition fill the volume)
iSCSI Client windows 7 Pro x64 iSCSI Target QNAP TS-469-Pro |
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| reply to DarkLogix Well, from everything I've been able to find out, I'm thinking you're going to have to re-create the GPT on the newly expanded 4 TB volume in order to include the added space. This should then allow the entire 4 TB to be seen in disk management, where you can then do whatever you want with it. |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | Well Disk management sees the full 4TB and will put a 2nd partition on it but not expand the existing one to fill it. |
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 aguenPremium join:2003-07-16 Grants Pass, OR | reply to DarkLogix Ok, if your content to use it with the additional volume, that's good. Just one more question, on the original NTFS disk on that volume, what sector size was used? |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | reply to DarkLogix On the upside if I have to redo the Partition then luckily it's thin provisioned so I can make another 4TB lun and have my server work away at moving the data over. (I say server because it'll take awhile and I don't feel like leaving my computer on, but my server is always on)
Though I'll consider moving forward with connecting the 2nd Nic sooner. (the server has 2 nic's teamed and the qnap has 2 nics but I haven't connected the 2nd on the qnap yet.) |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | reply to aguen said by aguen:Ok, if your content to use it with the additional volume, that's good. Just one more question, on the original NTFS disk on that volume, what sector size was used? Well I want to have a single 4TB partition (just saying it will allow me to make a 2nd partition)
When I formatted the volume I left it at defaults so I'm not sure off hand of the sector size. |
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| well, so far everything I have been able to find out ties back to a limit of the NTFS format and 512 sector size being a max of 2 TB. Unfortunately I'm in no position to verify this in practice. If you were able to remove the current NTFS partition such that you had the entire 4 TB raw volume and then create a new NTFS partition using 4096 sector size, you should be able to use it all. |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | Could you refresh my memory, is there a command to show sector size?
and is it possible to adjust it? |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | Ok from some refreshing I guess I'll make another iSCSI lun and target on the QNAP and (with thin provisioning I can have 2x 4TB luns on a 4TB array so long as the total amount of actual data stored isn't more than 4TB)
And let my server spend the night moving files from one lun to the other.
I wanted to be sure that it was the issue before doing that though |
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