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therube

join:2004-11-11
Randallstown, MD

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Big Daddy Knows How To Protect You! MS Blocks Flash on Metro

(I know nothing of Win8, much less "Metro", but looks like MS has your butt covered. No more need for "security" .)

Flash Websites Won’t Load in IE 10 Unless Microsoft Approves Them

"Internet Explorer 10, the version that’s currently available to Windows 8 users only, won’t load Flash websites unless Microsoft places them on its very own whitelist.

Windows 8 comes with two different versions of Internet Explorer: one that loads in the Metro environment and runs full screen and another one accessible from the desktop that works in a similar fashion to the previous releases of the browser.

The Metro-based flavor won’t load unknown Flash websites because it needs Microsoft’s approval, so users are prompted to send a specific page to the Redmond-based technology company whenever they attempt to load it.

“While any site can play Flash content in Internet Explorer 10 for the desktop, only sites that are on the Compatibility View (CV) list for Flash can play Flash content within Internet Explorer 10 in the new Windows UI. We place sites with Flash content on the CV list if doing so delivers the best user experience in Internet Explorer 10 with those sites,” Microsoft explains in its very own Flash Content Guidelines.

While it could take too much time before Microsoft gives its approval to load a specific website, the company claims that it checks the submitted websites as fast as possible.

What’s more, webmasters can even add a specific meta tag in their websites to make sure that Windows 8 will load the page in the desktop version of Internet Explorer 10, instead of blocking it in the Metro version.

“Sites that rely on capabilities (for example, rollover events and peer-to-peer (P2P) functionality) that are not supported within Windows UX guidelines for Windows Store apps, and don’t degrade gracefully in their absence, are better off running in Internet Explorer 10 for the desktop with Flash,” the company concluded."

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Oh MS, would you pretty please allow, http://www.tubeofxxx.wa/flashplayplayer/98052/Debbie_Does_Redmond, I really needs to see it.
Oh & I hereby certify that I am 9 years old. Err, 12, 19. Or do I need to be 21? Yes, I'm 21. There .

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I sure hope MS has my butt covered!



Name Game
Premium
join:2002-07-07
Grand Rapids, MI
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I was reading about that earlier and dropped this one

»Flash Whitelisting in IE10?

Thanks for the better posting..knew other would start writing about it. I like your title better.
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Blackbird
Built for Speed
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Fort Wayne, IN
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reply to therube

quote:
“While any site can play Flash content in Internet Explorer 10 for the desktop, only sites that are on the Compatibility View (CV) list for Flash can play Flash content within Internet Explorer 10 in the new Windows UI. We place sites with Flash content on the CV list if doing so delivers the best user experience in Internet Explorer 10 with those sites,” Microsoft explains in its very own Flash Content Guidelines.
I'm curious how long it will be before the EU takes a very hard look at this Microsoft plan. Unless other flavor browsers are given enough hooks and handles to use the metro interface with all websites in a similar way as IE10, this sets up another situation where MS will be arguably handicapping those browsers in its OS. The last time around, it led to a rather significant legal action and fine across the pond...
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dave
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join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
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reply to therube

MS copies Apple again?


OZO
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reply to therube

Why to stop with Flash? Limit all web sites, that users can visit with the new web browser and ask for a payment approval...

Do others see this as a next money grabbing attempt from this corporation or you must be a "conspiracy theorists" to see the obvious...

It's going to be fun to watch how it will go with big porno industry in the US, making huge profits by providing their junk via Flash...
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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reply to Blackbird

said by Blackbird:

quote:
“While any site can play Flash content in Internet Explorer 10 for the desktop, only sites that are on the Compatibility View (CV) list for Flash can play Flash content within Internet Explorer 10 in the new Windows UI. We place sites with Flash content on the CV list if doing so delivers the best user experience in Internet Explorer 10 with those sites,” Microsoft explains in its very own Flash Content Guidelines.
I'm curious how long it will be before the EU takes a very hard look at this Microsoft plan. Unless other flavor browsers are given enough hooks and handles to use the metro interface with all websites in a similar way as IE10, this sets up another situation where MS will be arguably handicapping those browsers in its OS. The last time around, it led to a rather significant legal action and fine across the pond...

You are assuming that Metro and Windows 8 are not going to be a big FLOP. Since any poor Win 8 user can just switch to the Desktop to view flash content without getting BigDaddy approval first, I don't see why EU would consider Microsoft's move discriminatory against other browser makers. Intelligent Windows 8 users will just exercise their rights to downgrade to Win 7 Pro or will turn off Metro and use the desktop so where is the issue? The dummies who don't know any better can be told to use the Desktop instead of Metro if they don't want to be hassled about Flash.
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dave
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On the other hand, almost everyone in the security forum knows that Flash is one of the most exploitable pieces of software out there, so one doesn't have to be a "conspiracy theorist" to see the obvious.

Many of us here think that Windows 8 is excessively oriented to mobile devices. Adobe doesn't think its Flash software is suitable for mobile devices (or else it's bowed to the Apple onslaught, take your pick). QED: Microsoft is orienting their mobile-OS UI to de facto mobile-OS practices.

Of course, the mere fact that Microsoft does something automatically leads certain posters to declare that they want the opposite thing. (Hi, mele)

Me, I don't care a whole lot. Flash is not good software. Don't we all like open standards? (oops, wrong forum).



Name Game
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Grand Rapids, MI
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reply to therube

Click for full size
I like it that my Google Chrome stops Windows Media Player from running unless I give it permission to run..I never do and if I really want to see the content would use another open source player.

Mele20
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Hilo, HI
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OT - Where's that produce farms? They sure have CHEAP meals! Those prices look like from the 70's.



Name Game
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Grand Rapids, MI
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4 miles away by Bear Creek PA..want to come for breakfast with Santa ?
»ponducefarms.com/

Working my way back to your Girl
»ponducefarms.com/farm_market.html

»ponducefarms.com/pavilion.html


OZO
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reply to Name Game

Hmm, interesting... My Chromium v24.0.1278.0 doesn't ask anything. It just opens in the same tab empty page (URL = "...video.wmv"), waits for 30 sec, launches new WMP window and plays content there. It should be some security option, but where is that?
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RazzyIE

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reply to Name Game

IE does the same thing. Nothing is run by default until you tell it to run it on that site OR all sites.



chachazz
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Firefox - Click-to-Play Plugins, Blocklist-Style
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KodiacZiller
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reply to dave

said by dave:

Don't we all like open standards? (oops, wrong forum).

Did hell just freeze over? Dave is arguing for open standards?


Name Game
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reply to OZO

said by OZO:

Hmm, interesting... My Chromium v24.0.1278.0 doesn't ask anything. It just opens in the same tab empty page (URL = "...video.wmv"), waits for 30 sec, launches new WMP window and plays content there. It should be some security option, but where is that?

Hi OZ..will chromium let you do this ? Chrome seems to do it all by default as explained here..

Blocked plug-ins
Plug-ins help browsers process special types of web content, like Flash or Windows Media files. Some plug-ins, such as Flash, are used by many websites on the Internet. Other plug-ins are only used by a small number of sites. Plug-ins are allowed by default. However, since they can occasionally be a security risk, Google Chrome blocks plug-ins that are outdated or those that are not widely used. Examples include Java, RealPlayer, QuickTime, Shockwave, Windows Media Player and Adobe Reader prior to Adobe Reader X. You can use the Content Settings dialog to block all plug-ins. When this happens, you will see a message such as the following:

"The Java plug-in needs your permission to run."

You should only run the plug-in if you trust the website you are visiting (for example, your banking website might legitimately use a Java applet).

To let the plug-in run on the site, follow these steps:

To run the plug-in just this once, click Run this time in the message. The plug-in will run, but if you re-visit the site, you'll be asked for permission to run the plug-in again.
To always allow the current site to run the plug-in, click Always run on this site. Subsequent visits to the site will run the plug-in without asking again.
To always allow this type of plug-in to run, go to chrome://plugins, find the plug-in and select the Always allowed checkbox.

»support.google.com/chrome/bin/an···d_plugin
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OZO
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Thank you, NG. When I connect to the site via Proxomitron, I get two options (buttons) Toggle and Media: wmv. If I click on first button, I'm getting WMP plugin on the page, movie file is Downloaded, but plugin never plays it. If I click on the latter, the new and empty page is opened, video file is downloaded and is played in separate WMP process. If I bypass Proxomitron, the WMP plugin is in place at the beginning, file is Downloaded, but it's never played...

In chrome://plugins/ page WMP plugin is enabled. I tried it with check box Always allowed set on and cleared and there is absolutely no difference at all, whatsoever. I don't see any warning bar on the top of Chromium browser, like you mentioned. Actually I've never seen it at all... That's why I was wondering what is it and how to get it too... May be it is one of the differences between Chromium and Chrome, I don't know.
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FF4m3

@bhn.net
reply to KodiacZiller

said by KodiacZiller:

said by dave:

Don't we all like open standards? (oops, wrong forum).

Did hell just freeze over? Dave is arguing for open standards?

LOL