Re: [MoP] Great Post - I couldn't agree more - World of Warcraft

Author	All Replies
Krisnatharok Caveat Emptor Premium join:2009-02-11 Earth Orbit kudos:7	reply to clawfury Re: [MoP] Great Post - I couldn't agree more said by clawfury: A large portion of the WoW player base has been with Blizzard since the beginning. Most of us were highschool or college kids when we first discovered the game, we had endless amounts of free time, and loved the sink. Most of us are now adults with families of our own, and these kind of time sinks just don't appeal to us anymore. So you want what hooked you to change to accommodate your changing lifestyle? How is that fair to Blizzard? Also keep in mind, like someone else said, this is only the first tier of raiding. I simply see this as Blizzard trying to extend what is the end game. You only have to grind rep once. -- If we lose this freedom of ours, history will record with the greatest astonishment, those who had the most to lose, did the least to prevent its happening.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 10:35:58 ·
clawfury join:2012-02-14 Rochester, MI Reviews: ·Comcast	Well Kris, personally, I don't care all that much. I just hate dailies, so I don't do them every day, period. If it slows me down a little bit, that's ok. Blizzard HAS changed to accomodate their player base - I'm sure you recognize that. I DO think this guy is a little over whiny and exaggerating, but he does have some valid points, which is why I posted it. They must recognize that there is a sizeable portion of their player base that hates dailies and loves dungeons, why not give them the option of levelling their rep how they want?
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 10:39:22 ·
Ghastlyone Premium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2	reply to Krisnatharok said by Krisnatharok: said by clawfury: A large portion of the WoW player base has been with Blizzard since the beginning. Most of us were highschool or college kids when we first discovered the game, we had endless amounts of free time, and loved the sink. Most of us are now adults with families of our own, and these kind of time sinks just don't appeal to us anymore. So you want what hooked you to change to accommodate your changing lifestyle? How is that fair to Blizzard? Also keep in mind, like someone else said, this is only the first tier of raiding. I simply see this as Blizzard trying to extend what is the end game. You only have to grind rep once. Until the new faction rep releases with the next patch. Firelands released, what did they add? More daily quests and rep grind. Darkmoon Faire releases. What do they add? More daily quests. New expansion releases. They inject steroids into their daily quest model and rep grind. There is nothing fun about dailys and grinding rep. At all. I notice not one person in this entire thread has stated they are having a blast with all the daily quests they're doing (must do)every day. More of a neutral, dispassionate type of posts instead.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:08:41 ·
cymraeg Thread Killer Premium join:2011-06-07 Dodge, NE Reviews: ·Great Plains Com..	but yet, you will gladly farm mobs for salvagable shit to maybe get enough mats to maybe upgrade a non essential stat on gear that you can only reskin and not truely upgrade, you make no fucking sense. -- Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau! "What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:17:52 ·

I AM Premium join:2010-04-11 Ephrata, PA kudos:4 Reviews: ·Blue Ridge Cable	said by cymraeg: but yet, you will gladly farm mobs for salvagable shit to maybe get enough mats to maybe upgrade a non essential stat on gear that you can only reskin and not truely upgrade, you make no fucking sense. But the Guild Wars Franchise's end game is not the same as WoW. It is not tied to getting to latest gear out there. WoW is a loot driven game Guild Wars is not. Each appeals differently to players.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:21:19 ·
Ghastlyone Premium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2	reply to cymraeg said by cymraeg: but yet, you will gladly farm mobs for salvagable shit to maybe get enough mats to maybe upgrade a non essential stat on gear that you can only reskin and not truely upgrade, you make no fucking sense. A lot of assumptions in this post ^ I make no sense though. Riiiight. Have fun with your dailys buddy
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:25:52 ·
cymraeg Thread Killer Premium join:2011-06-07 Dodge, NE Reviews: ·Great Plains Com..	reply to I AM its still a grind no matter which way you spin it, atleast in wow there is an end to the winding path, you have to grind out mf gear to help with the finding more shit to salvage, people tend to think that there shiny toy is better than the kids next door, guess what it isn't. -- Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau! "What happened in here?" " Seems to have been a bit of a squabble." "They're all dead!" " More of a tif then."
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:28:33 ·
Immer Gentleman Premium join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA kudos:6	I'm going to start "hey modding" the GW2 posts.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:32:24 ·
Jobbie Keep It Simple Premium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:1	reply to cymraeg Turning this into a GW2 vs WoW debate is not going to get us any good. Now kiss. -- Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:33:14 ·
I AM Premium join:2010-04-11 Ephrata, PA kudos:4	/tar cymraeg /kiss /comfort /silly Its okay buddy. The one thing WoW has got right is emotes.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:34:28 ·
Jobbie Keep It Simple Premium join:2010-08-24 Mexico kudos:1	Both games have a lot of things right, but that is not the point of this thread. -- Judge a man by the trials of his shield, not the empty reaping of his sword.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:35:32 ·
Ghastlyone Premium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2	reply to Immer said by Immer: I'm going to start "hey modding" the GW2 posts. LOL. Yep. Can't compare anything to the holy grail that is WoW in this forum. Nothing else exists. Because MMOs never get compared to one another, right? Not this forum though. We'll tell on you to the mods!
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:36:08 ·
wabisuke join:2007-01-23 Philippines	reply to Jobbie said by Jobbie: Both games have a lot of things right, but that is not the point of this thread. True that, I want both games to succeed because it will only make the next iterations better. But apparently, people need to bash the other to somehow make their preferred game better. I never could understand that logic. Much like the iOS vs Android threads...
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:37:15 ·
I AM Premium join:2010-04-11 Ephrata, PA kudos:4	reply to Jobbie /tar Jobbie /lick /dance /laugh /gkick
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:37:33 ·
Immer Gentleman Premium join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA kudos:6 Reviews: ·Comcast	reply to Ghastlyone said by Ghastlyone: said by Immer: I'm going to start "hey modding" the GW2 posts. LOL. Yep. Can't compare anything to the holy grail that is WoW in this forum. Nothing else exists. Because MMOs never get compared to one another, right? Not this forum though. We'll tell on you to the mods! A lot of assumptions in this post ^... I'm not in the WoW forum to talk about some other game, nor does the topic of this thread really benefit from discussions of another game. That's what the more generic gaming forum is for. -- Guild leader of Pride and Ego Immergruen (resto/boomie) on Nathrezim Server (US) Agrende (discipline/holy); Esclavizado (blood/unholy) Intelligence is no substitute for Character.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:40:56 ·
Ghastlyone Premium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2	said by Immer: said by Ghastlyone: said by Immer: I'm going to start "hey modding" the GW2 posts. LOL. Yep. Can't compare anything to the holy grail that is WoW in this forum. Nothing else exists. Because MMOs never get compared to one another, right? Not this forum though. We'll tell on you to the mods! A lot of assumptions in this post ^... I'm not in the WoW forum to talk about some other game, nor does the topic of this thread really benefit from discussions of another game. That's what the more generic gaming forum is for. Strange thing is. I never said one thing about GW2 in this thread. I've been talking about WoW the whole time?
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:48:17 ·
Immer Gentleman Premium join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA kudos:6 Reviews: ·Comcast	said by Ghastlyone: Strange thing is. I never said one thing about GW2 in this thread. I've been talking about WoW the whole time? cool. but you saw it fit to belittle my somewhat blunt reminder that we don't need to be discussing some other game here... and made wild assumptions about my motives for doing so. Plus... I couldn't resist recycling one of your earlier comments. /hug
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 12:51:50 ·
Ghastlyone Premium join:2009-01-07 Las Vegas, NV kudos:2	said by Immer: said by Ghastlyone: Strange thing is. I never said one thing about GW2 in this thread. I've been talking about WoW the whole time? cool. but you saw it fit to belittle my somewhat blunt reminder that we don't need to be discussing some other game here... and made wild assumptions about my motives for doing so. Plus... I couldn't resist recycling one of your earlier comments. /hug I love me some Immer. You know I gotta come in here and raz you guys every once in awhile
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 13:04:48 ·
Ramikor @comcastbusiness.net	My response is somewhat based on ignorance, so please bear with me. With respect to the dailies, whether they are "must do" depends on whether you can val cap without doing them. If you can, they are not "must do"; if you can't they are. I don't know because I honestly haven't looked. I'm doing them strictly for rep at this point, and prioritizing them based on what I want to get when. If they are "must do" then I agree, it's ridiculous. While everyone will have to spend some amount of time to val cap, it should be possible to val cap if you're playing about an hour a day (i.e. running 1 heroic dun per day). If they are not "must do" then the valor given for them is sugar on top of the rep that you need to get access to whatever the rep vendor is selling -- i.e maybe saving you a dun run while you're grinding rep. I don't have a problem with having to grind rep to get access to a sweet item, except that I've always felt rep based items should be BoA rather BoP so you don't have to grind the rep again for each alt. The big problem comes if the val you get from them is not subject to the val cap. Then all of a sudden, it becomes "must do" to the hardcore types instead of a bonus.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 15:49:44 ·
Immer Gentleman Premium join:2010-01-07 Evans, GA kudos:6 Reviews: ·Comcast	said by Ramikor : My response is somewhat based on ignorance, so please bear with me. With respect to the dailies, whether they are "must do" depends on whether you can val cap without doing them. If you can, they are not "must do"; if you can't they are. I don't know because I honestly haven't looked. I'm doing them strictly for rep at this point, and prioritizing them based on what I want to get when. You need to grind out the rep with the factions just to spend the Valor you've earned. That puts it squarely into the "must do" category. -- Guild leader of Pride and Ego Immergruen (resto/boomie) on Nathrezim Server (US) Agrende (discipline/holy); Esclavizado (blood/unholy) Intelligence is no substitute for Character.
	to forum · permalink · 2012-10-12 15:52:52 ·

Tech and Talk > Gaming > World of Warcraft > [MoP] Great Post - I couldn't agree more

Re: [MoP] Great Post - I couldn't agree more