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yaplej
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join:2001-02-10
White City, OR
reply to Oxygen

Re: Heavy Iron - Dual Cisco 7613 Routers w/ RSP720-3C-10GE

Nice devices for sure. What prevented Cisco from pushing you to the ASR9K or beastly CRS?


DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
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reply to Oxygen
said by Oxygen:

said by HELLFIRE:

said by Oxygen:

Each one was $345,371.00 + freight shipping.

That WITH or WITHOUT Smartnet?

This was without Smartnet.

Blasphemy
go get some Smartnet.


Oxygen
Times Square can't shine as bright
Premium
join:2001-12-04
Nesconset, NY
reply to yaplej
said by yaplej:

Nice devices for sure. What prevented Cisco from pushing you to the ASR9K or beastly CRS?

It was kind of a "order us this and configure it exactly like this, we don't want to hear what you have to say" situation...


tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
Premium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ
kudos:1
reply to yaplej
said by yaplej:

Nice devices for sure. What prevented Cisco from pushing you to the ASR9K or beastly CRS?

you're not going to push crs (huge sp core router) especially with the pricetag -- when a customer is pushing c7k. asr9k is the natural progression -- but given the overall need -- there's no huge benefit in going to the asr9k -- especially with the required spend.

for what is occurring here -- the c6k with sup2t would have also been appropriate -- and cheaper -- but it is what it is.

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tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
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join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ
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reply to DarkLogix
said by DarkLogix:

Blasphemy
go get some Smartnet.

in certain instances -- sparing can be a cheaper (and quicker) way to solve issues -- especially if you have similar kit sitting in the lab.
smartnet is great -- but its not a panacea.

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DarkLogix
Texan and Proud
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Baytown, TX
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It'll give access to IOS downloads and cisco support.

HELLFIRE
Premium
join:2009-11-25
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reply to tubbynet
Couple hundred K chassis / linecard, and no smartnet... I'm more worried when
something borks out and you find out your warrant service has just ended...

Whichever Beancounter authorized that needs a round of Network Battleship done
on their PC AND homedirectory.

Regards


tubbynet
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Chandler, AZ
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it happens quite often.
for $enterprise that has a lot of same kit -- license strategic chassis, then hot spare the rest. linecards in 7600 and 6500 are covered under chassis license -- except for sip/spa combos. as such, if a linecard goes tits up, you swap it out with a hot spare and handle the smartnet later in the lab. if a chassis borks -- smartnet wont help you bring back the network and you build redundancy into it. you either make sure its spared, or you have licensed this as a strategic chassis.

it happens more than one would think. enterprises with tens of thousands of devices often look at hot sparing seriously once they look at average smartnet cost-to-utilization ratios. cisco services account managers (now they are called client services executives or some other such nonsense) often place a combination of smartnet services as well as sparing on the table to bring the cost where $enterprise will find it acceptable.
having sat in and added logistical information to said meetings -- they are fun to watch and be a part of.

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HELLFIRE
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join:2009-11-25
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Client I deal with gets a pretty sweet deal globally, they buy it from whoever, wherever, and is backdated
with Cisco for support. All the client cares is EVERYTHING is 24x7x4 support, and if we say it isn't (especially
if the documentation says 8x5xNBD), well... they have our boss, the boss' boss, and the boss' boss' boss on
speed dial... calls like that especially suck at 0200 in the morning.

Regards


tubbynet
reminds me of the danse russe
Premium,MVM
join:2008-01-16
Chandler, AZ
kudos:1
said by HELLFIRE:

Client I deal with gets a pretty sweet deal globally, they buy it from whoever, wherever, and is backdated
with Cisco for support. All the client cares is EVERYTHING is 24x7x4 support, and if we say it isn't (especially
if the documentation says 8x5xNBD), well... they have our boss, the boss' boss, and the boss' boss' boss on
speed dial... calls like that especially suck at 0200 in the morning.

Regards

i am the principal/cse on a similar account.
customer buys the equivalent of about $30mil/year list price (they don't pay list -- but if they did -- it would total roughly that much) in hardware and support with an additional $2-3million in professional services from us.
they tier out their kit based on business need. core and critical infrastructure is 24x7x365. it goes down from there to 8x5xnbd. in those cases -- they hot spare on no support to resolve the issue. each site has a cache -- and large stocks are geographically spaced so there is no more than about 2-3 hours drive time between.

its all about cost and logistics from within the enterprise.

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