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Re: [WIN8] Who is buying Windows 8?said by H_T_R_N:said by Jahntassa:I have yet to see it on a multi monitor station with people who actually multitask. Not sure how that would work with Metro.
I have 3 monitors but I never use teh metro interface. I installed clasic shell I found on Sourceforge, replaced a few of the default apps with the ones I am accustom to using and it works perfectly. I have noticed a marked improvement in performance over Windows 7, so that alone is reason enough to upgrade. The getting hung in the corners is a bit annoying, but other than that...... As for metro on multi monitors there has to be a way to isolate an individual session and relegate it to a monitor. I haven't seen anything that will do that yet. I use it on three monitors. If I want to pin a half-screened metro app on a monitor, I can, which is nice. Otherwise the fullscreen start just covers one monitor, which is also fine since I just use it as a larger start menu. You don't use NEW UI apps or is it Marketplace Apps on a three monitor machine very often. If you do, you use them on a single monitor. |
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2012-Oct-14 7:02 pm
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Not just no, but hell no! They will have to pry Windows 7 from my cold dead hands. |
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And how did you get to that screen? Right click network adapter by the clock and choose "Open Network and Sharing Center" right? Right?
That's not what the issue is...in Win7 you would left click the adapter and choose "Open Network and Sharing Center"
Now in Win8, when you LEFT click the network icon by your presented with a Flyout menu with the ability to join Wireless networks but UNABLE to edit your wired OR wireless connections from this menu. Why?
Also, what ever happened to "Manage wireless networks"??? |
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No not now. Win 7 x64 Ultimate plenty solid. W6 seems to need tablet, touchscreen, touch mouse kinda stuff. I'm a keyboarder & mouser. Don't need the hybrid tab/desktop combo. Maybe in W10 went thought input is solid or at least as good as voice input that will be next step. Read NYT about the Nobel Prize in physics going to quantum computing. Qbits could be a million trillion trillion trillion times todays so thought could be the deal. Implanted PC? But for now my critical apps aren't to be beta rat tested. |
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Not me. I'm sticking with my good ole Vista Home Basic !  My 'new' puter is 7yrs old and came with Vista...and I like the way it is setup to what I want to do. I'm also using IE7 and sticking with that too. I hate tabs. I loved my ME and had it for 7 years but had to buy this puter cuz it was cheaper just to buy it than replace the harddrive I'm not a multi-tasker, don't do photos,games,music or office stuff (wordpad is good enough for me). |
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I may down the road, but it would be coming with my new touchscreen computer. I have seen the prototypes, and I want one! (Sorry Apple, you're late to this game, I'll keep my MacBook Air though as a laptop) |
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Amazing that there are still people who have irrational hatred toward 8. What Microsoft is doing is trying to do in Windows 8 tries to integrate 2 operating systems into one. Now if you do not like the "new OS and new apps" and prefer to use the old style interface, it just takes a minute to install the freebie Classic Shell or the $5 Start8 start menu alternatives. Classic Shell » classicshell.sourceforge.net/Start8 » www.stardock.com/product ··· /start8/ |
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Re: [WIN8] Who is buying Windows 8?I still don't expect to see it on a non tablet in my own use.
7 is not bothering me in any way I can detect. And I never fix anything if it isn't broken.
I'd like to play games wanting windows (not Android) on my tablet, and really that is the full extent of my interest in 8.
The second it makes my tablet able to run the last 10 years of wargames (from Matrix Games/Slitherine primarily), I'm interested. Until then, I likely couldn't be interested in it if it was free.
I'm cool with my desktop becoming no more interesting than a manual typewriter, and my laptop essentially no longer required to be all that mobile.
Just recently realized my tablet thanks to Supernote, is essentially able to let me discontinue needing a pencil and notebook to write minor indulgences when I am out of the house. I am almost ready to consider my tablet my primary means of computer use (other than large volume writing tasks best done with a keyboard).
Not sure how much my own computer activities will mirror mainstream though. Not much of a hard core gamer, so the power of a tablet is not really that big of an issue with me. |
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said by btB :Amazing that there are still people who have irrational hatred toward 8. What Microsoft is doing is trying to do in Windows 8 tries to integrate 2 operating systems into one. Now if you do not like the "new OS and new apps" and prefer to use the old style interface, it just takes a minute to install the freebie Classic Shell or the $5 Start8 start menu alternatives.
Classic Shell
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Start8
»www.stardock.com/product ··· /start8/
Having used both Classic Shell and Start8 I would recommend Start8 . It is worth the cost. Dave |
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I jumped ship from Windows to Mac when Vista came out but been keeping an eye on the Microsoft Surface. Windows 8 looks appealing on new hardware. |
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2012-Oct-15 11:08 am
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said by izy:And how did you get to that screen? Right click network adapter by the clock and choose "Open Network and Sharing Center" right? Right?
That's not what the issue is...in Win7 you would left click the adapter and choose "Open Network and Sharing Center"
Now in Win8, when you LEFT click the network icon by your presented with a Flyout menu with the ability to join Wireless networks but UNABLE to edit your wired OR wireless connections from this menu. Why?
Also, what ever happened to "Manage wireless networks"???
RIGHT, like i said you could save ONE STEP - by going to the red box instead of Change your adapter. Left click? Right click? Does it matter? It's one click. As for "Manage wireless networks" -> See this link. » www.7tutorials.com/how-m ··· indows-8You'd want to click "Forget this network" if you want to reestablish the wireless network with different passcodes/encryptions. Much FASTER than Windows 7's Manage Wireless Network. |
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The Windows 8 malware will not exist on my computers.
Myself, my family, and the company I work for have already made plans, and they don't include Windows 8.
I don't like Metro. I don't like the new start screen. I don't like how it flips in and out of the two GUIs. I don't like how Microsoft wants to dumb down my powerful desktop to make it more like a productively weak tablet. I don't like how I have just made an investment in Windows 7, and haven't milked it for all it's worth yet.
There's not a single compelling reason for me to use Windows 8. With Linux starting to get more attention in the game space, there will be even fewer things holding me to Windows.
Maybe we'll consider Windows 9, but only if Microsoft corrects some serious issues found in Windows 8. I won't bring them up here, because they can be found elsewhere on the net, with a little research.
I would buy Windows 8 if it was half-way decent, and I would spend $200 or more for it. Right now, it's not worth $free. I'll just hold on to what I have. I skipped over 2000 and Vista, and have not regretted it for one moment. |
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2012-Oct-15 12:59 pm
said by Tristan:The Windows 8 malware will not exist on my computers.
Myself, my family, and the company I work for have already made plans, and they don't include Windows 8.
I don't like Metro. I don't like the new start screen. I don't like how it flips in and out of the two GUIs. I don't like how Microsoft wants to dumb down my powerful desktop to make it more like a productively weak tablet. I don't like how I have just made an investment in Windows 7, and haven't milked it for all it's worth yet.
There's not a single compelling reason for me to use Windows 8. With Linux starting to get more attention in the game space, there will be even fewer things holding me to Windows.
Maybe we'll consider Windows 9, but only if Microsoft corrects some serious issues found in Windows 8. I won't bring them up here, because they can be found elsewhere on the net, with a little research.
I would buy Windows 8 if it was half-way decent, and I would spend $200 or more for it. Right now, it's not worth $free. I'll just hold on to what I have. I skipped over 2000 and Vista, and have not regretted it for one moment.
It is obvious you never used Windows 8 or sit down and learn Windows 8. |
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I'll be sticking with win7 for a while. I really like it, it's stable, fast, and works.
Since MS is working on win9 and I'm sure planning win10 I'll wait and see what they do with those.
If I do ever get a tablet I'll definitely get one with an atom processor and win8 but I doubt that will ever happen. |
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Win8 suits me just fine. It's been 3 years since I last ploughed through the Start Menu and Win8 is a natural progression.
On a 5-year-old Dell XPS M1330 with SSD, I boot in 11 seconds and resume in 1. I reboot once a month.....who cares if Metro is the first thing I see? Yes, I do spend a lot of time in Desktop but Chrome is my browser.
Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13" for me, orange please. |
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I agree. I don't have it running now do to a software issue between McAfee Enterprise and Windows 8. However, once that is resolved, I'm going back to Win 8.
When I had it installed, I uninstalled (not just unpinned) all of the metro apps (Weather, Photos, games, etc, etc). So, any icons that I did pin to Metro would always open back on the desktop.
The keyboard I have is a Microsoft Pro Media Keyboard. On it, I have buttons to launch my Web Browser (Waterfox), E-Mail client (Thunderbird) and Messenger (Skype). It also has buttons for My Documents, My Music, and My Pictures folder. So to get to any of them, I don't have to use Metro.
For the apps that I run outside of that, I just have the tiles in Metro. I press the Windows Key on my keyboard, and then click the tile I want, and I go back to the desktop and into the applications.
Also for years I've been a heavy user of the other Window Key Shortcuts (Run, Explorer, Lock System, Search). So, if I want to run something, its always Windows Key + R. As long as those shortcuts still work in Win 8 (and so far, it looks like they do), then I won't have a problem.
However, I will say that when I first saw Metro, I was like WTF!!! What is Microsoft doing!
But then I actually took the time to sit down and look at it...figure it out, and spend time with the new user interface. While everyone is different, I think if people would spend a few minutes (or hours) with it, and approach it with an open mind, they will find it is not as bad as they think it is.
Sure, its a change, and a lot of people hate change. On the other hand, no one is putting a gun to your head and going "USE THIS AND BE HAPPY, OR I KILL YOU". Everyone has time to figure it out, play with it, research it, and customize it to fit their needs. For me, after I sat down with Windows 8, did some research on google, and this forum, and asked some questions, I was able to customize Metro to fit my needs just like I could in Windows 7.
Again, if McAfee Enterprise's current version ran on Windows 8 today, I will be there in a heartbeat.
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I don't think I will be, my year is going to go getting the wife off windows xp to windows 7 this year. Then my mother.... that is going to be a trip! |
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I'm still using the Consumer preview version, but I will not buy the GA version. I don't see why the need to change from Win 7 to Win 8 and I hate the Metro bullshit. |
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For some time now I have been saying that Microsoft should allow the user to work the way they themselves want to work. In something of a customized environment of their own choosing. That is to say that I strongly believe that new Microsoft OSes should be able to mimic older version down to the smallest detail in addition to having a new interface option. Since Microsoft would have the right to do so there isn’t anything stopping them from a legal standpoint. In this way people could upgrade from an old MS OS to a new MS OS without any learning curve whatsoever.
However, in addition to new features, people have come to expect something new with respect to the interface. With the caveat that they want some new and different but not "too" new and different. It’s a fine line to walk.
Those who choose to stay with Windows 7 citing its many attributes are somewhat saying that Microsoft did their job with Windows 7 a little too well. Which is high praise indeed.
For what its worth, I use Windows 7, Windows 8, OS X (10.8.2), iOS 6, Android 4.x and WebOS. |
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2012-Oct-15 4:50 pm
said by Octavean:Microsoft should allow the user to work the way they themselves want to work. It'd be easy to accomplish, if they offered basic Windows OS (kind of old and forgotten MiniWin, remember?) plus a separate desktop program (Windows Explorer, Metro, or may be even something different) at your chose I'll be in first lines, who will buy that  Separation desktop application form the Windows OS itself is the keyword here. |
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MS could easily make 8 configurable, for example, metro or no metro, but they aren't and won't, which is really what puts me off more than anything else. If I could turn off or remove metro entirely, I'd be the first in line to buy it (I bought 7 the day it was released). MS's attitude on the whole thing (force feeding metro and the ui to everyone) ensures that no, I will not be buying it at all... I am really surprised that so many people here are willing to accept and embrace 8, the compromise that it is.. Ah, well..... |
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2012-Oct-15 9:03 pm
I will be, I like to stay on the latest version.
Besides, the new look is interesting. |
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I think in some ways an OS GUI is somewhat subjective. There are those that are willing to engage something new and those that are not. To some extent it seems to me that Windows 8 metro is an affront to those who are already familiar with Windows and don’t like the idea of losing that familiarity by way of significant change in new versions of the OS. People new to computers and or Windows have no frame of reference and can therefore more easily accept it. Then there are those familiar with Windows already but are willing to accept change and go in new directions, therefore, taking knowledge of the old and the new. I like this post: said by armed:I'm getting to old to learn new OS's (68) but I really like Win7 compared to Win XP. I'll see for myself if the wow factor for Win 8 is as good.
I like it because at some point it takes ownership of the issue that the OP may be unwilling to deal with something new in a new OS rather then attacking the OS itself. I don’t think Windows 8 is inherently broken but I think there are a lot of people unwilling to learn or deal with new tricks. There are two basic things Microsoft knew they needed to maintain. One was backward compatibility (something lost in Windows RT) and the other was usability in the form of familiarity with the OS (something lost with metro). |
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Windows 8 will be a bigger functional failure in replacing Windows 7 than that dog Windows Vista was in replacing Windows XP. And that's saying a lot when you view Vista in the big picture. In the big picture it was the biggest failure in MS history. Something a lot of people choose to either ignore or forget. |
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2012-Oct-15 10:12 pm
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said by Kerodo:MS could easily make 8 configurable, for example, metro or no metro, but they aren't and won't, which is really what puts me off more than anything else. If I could turn off or remove metro entirely, I'd be the first in line to buy it (I bought 7 the day it was released). MS's attitude on the whole thing (force feeding metro and the ui to everyone) ensures that no, I will not be buying it at all... I am really surprised that so many people here are willing to accept and embrace 8, the compromise that it is.. Ah, well.....
Again, there's no compromise. I can do more with Windows 8 than Windows 7. |
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