| [WildBlue] Faster Than Advertised Since October 10, 2012, I have noticed my speed on Wildblue Value Pack sometimes exceeding 1 Mb/s while it is supposed to be up to 512 kb/s. The following screen capture of Task Manager's Network graph taken about 30 minutes ago proves the excessive speed. Each horizontal line represents 320 kb/s. Oldest time is on the left and most recent time is on the right. The highest spike is about 1.7 Mb/s.
These variable speeds are causing havoc with me managing my usage. For example, I watched a video on hulu and forgot to set the quality to the lowest value for the first 15 minutes. Hulu automatically set the speed to 1 Mb/s and Wildblue transferred at that speed. When video quality at hulu is normally on auto, the video runs and pauses reminding me to set it to the lowest quality. In this case the video played smoothly and more than 100 MB of data was streamed before I noticed the unusually high speed. After I set it to the lowest quality, the show played as expected but the commercials automatically played at over 1 Mb/s. Frustration caused by variable speed and low usage caps.
Has anyone else detected this behavior?
Has Wildblue decided to give legacy customers faster speeds?
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway |
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| said by Spice300:Has anyone else detected this behavior?
About six years ago, one of their server (or whatever) updates caused even higher download speed, but it was quickly corrected. |
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| In the past I have seen my speeds operate at Select and Pro Pack speeds for a few hours on several occasions. These high speeds have been occurring for the last 4 days. Today an Adobe Flash video downloaded with the speed of Pro Pack with some spikes above 2 Mb/s.
One of the reasons I will not get Exede is because I do not want high speed with a low usage cap. Wildblue is shoving it down my throat anyhow 
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway |
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Here is my download speed of a 3 MB file at Test My Network. This is a speed like an Exede-5 system using legacy Wildblue equipment and Value Pack. Upload speed and pings are normal.
Download :: 4.1 Mbps 507 kB/s
Your Speed :: 4.1 Mbps
317% faster than Your average 972 Kbps
Download Connection Speed:: 4052 Kbps or 4.1 Mbps
Download Speed Test Size:: 3 MB or 3072 kB or 3145728 bytes
Download Binary File Transfer Speed:: 507 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net Version 13
Validation:: »testmy.net/db/eEK1If0
More Stats:: »testmy.net/compID/111652081389
Test Time:: 2012-10-13 19:05:29 GMT
1MB Download in 2.02 Seconds - 1GB Download in ~34 Minutes - 72X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 3072 kB took 6.229 seconds to complete
Running at 74% of hosts average (AT&T Services)
Upload Connection Speed:: 99 Kbps or 0.1 Mbps
Upload Speed Test Size:: 256 kB or 262144 bytes
Upload Binary File Transfer Speed:: 12 kB/s
Tested At:: »TestMy.net Version 13
Validation:: »testmy.net/db/kOvBrXG
More Stats:: »testmy.net/compID/645693353
Test Time:: 2012-10-13 19:16:01 GMT
1MB Upload in 1 Minutes - 1GB Upload in ~24 Hours - 2X faster than 56K
This test of exactly 256 kB took 21.183 seconds to complete
Running at 12% of hosts average (Wildblue Communications)
ping -n 20 -w 8000 12.213.224.60
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1309ms, Maximum = 2990ms, Average = 1595ms
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway |
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| reply to Spice300
said by Spice300:I do not want high speed with a low usage cap Don't use video on hulu much, but I have Youtube "trained" at 360p rate.
High speed is not an issue for me. When I was using 32" LCD full time, I used an odd-ball screen resolution, and a number of video sites used lowered speed rate. If I used its native resolution, video sites sometimes upped video rate to HD |
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| reply to DrStrangLov
Re: [WildBlue] Faster Than Advertised Yesterday, I was unable to set a video at YouTube to 240p even though it allowed that option to be selected. It insisted on 360p. |
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| reply to Spice300
I downloaded an 80 MB file and received speeds similar to Select Pack until the Network Management policy activated decreasing the speed to under 256 kb/s. This was downloaded between 1 pm and 2 pm. Each horizontal line represents 512 kb/s.
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway |
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| reply to Spice300
Never used it, but it appears one can control amount downloaded...need FireFox
Easy YouTube Video Downloader 6.5
»addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox···l-10137/ |
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| reply to Spice300
Note - I use Flashblock so this prevents video from running. I downloaded that program, and one can set the video rate when it is downloaded. |
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| I am using Firefox's Ad Block Plus to minimize Adobe Flash content.
The highest spike in download speed that I have seen on Task Manager's Network Monitor has been 9 Mb/s. Early this morning some data downloaded at a sustained rate of about 3 Mb/s. The upgrade at increased price to the Surfbeam 2 equipment seems unnecessary because the legacy Wildblue equipment is fully capable of speeds close to the up to 5 Mb/s of Exede-5. Marketing strikes again!
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway |
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| said by Spice300:Marketing strikes again!
Incorrect Spice....Engineering Strikes Again....Marketing would never give you more for less or the same |
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| Marketing sold those who switched to Exede a Surfbeam 2 modem, TRIA and truckroll for an activation fee and about $10 / month more than the legacy system. Based on my speeds over the last 2 weeks, the legacy Wildblue equipment is fully capable of a download speed between 3 Mb/s and 5 Mb/s. The equipment did not need to be changed. DrSL, did you really need to get Exede-5?
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway |
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| said by Spice300: DrSL, did you really need to get Exede-5? Previous Anik F2 spot beam I used was loaded, or my TRIA was shooting craps or dish not aligned (Skew was never set on it, btw); I knew ahead of time which spot beam I would be put on, WB-1: 163, and I knew WB-1:113 (WB Legacy) had never been filled completely.
Monthly price is the same (no monthly equipment charge, and 2 year fix free warranty), and install was less than $100.00.
It was a no brainer, upgrade...17 months left on contract
Sooner or later, your TRIA will shoot craps....I've got a power brick, modem, and know where there is a left polarized TRIA that has not been used in years, btw. |
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| Mmm, replacement parts.
I think the lifetime of Anik-F2 is about 15 years, until 2020, so my equipment only needs to last longer than the satellite. |
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| reply to Spice300
I've seen around 600Kbps, but rarely. Right before Exede went live, best average was around 200Kbps, and often "locked up". Service has improved a fair amount since then on legacy. It was unusable during primetime hours.
Exede5 service here is still not great, doesn't perform well, and it has been shut down to new customers for quite a while.
done about a minute ago on Value
Download Connection Speed:: 501 Kbps or 0.5 Mbps
Download Speed Test Size:: 1.5 MB or 1536 kB or 1572864 bytes
Download Binary File Transfer Speed:: 63 kB/s |
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| said by stinkyboots :I've seen around 600Kbps,
I suspect, for a long time, Spice has been on a sparsely populated beam. There were/are a number of beams in western states that were never filled to capacity on legacy Wildblue; when WB-1 went live, some beams were never activated, and others out west were lightly filled.
I wanted to switch to WB-1, but my provider said NO back then...so, I sat on a fairly loaded legacy beam. |
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Since you are not seeing above advertised speed on your legacy Wildblue system, then Wildblue is probably experimenting at the Riverside gateway.
If you are reading this Wildblue, my Internet has been severely timing out and yielding partial pages loads since I logged on yesterday. It is continuing today. Nearly half of every page I try to load fails. Some things will not load after 20 tries. It behaves like your gateway is congested, but there is no packet loss. When something downloads, the speeds are still above 512 kb/s. Upon power on, the modem has no problem connecting to the gateway. When waiting for a page to load, there is a long delay on the Tx light (no blinking for more than 8 seconds), then one blink and Firefox reports "The connection was reset" or something like, "can not display image because it contains errors." My guess is that the DAMA scheduler is not seeing any data to transfer so it goes idle.
ping -n 20 -w 8000 12.213.224.60
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=2877ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1335ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1334ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1325ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1367ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1407ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1355ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1312ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1308ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1368ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1353ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1323ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1316ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1317ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1467ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1313ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1345ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1392ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1345ms TTL=59
Reply from 12.213.224.60: bytes=32 time=1328ms TTL=59
Ping statistics for 12.213.224.60:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1308ms, Maximum = 2877ms, Average = 1424ms
netstat -e is reporting about 25% reset connections on IPv4
TCP Statistics for IPv4
Active Opens = 913
Passive Opens = 2
Failed Connection Attempts = 0
Reset Connections = 220
Current Connections = 4
Segments Received = 27381
Segments Sent = 20845
Segments Retransmitted = 13
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway |
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| reply to Spice300
There are many "destination unreachable" errors in ICMPv4, and no errors in UDP:
ICMPv4 Statistics
Received Sent
Messages 22 52
Errors 0 0
Destination Unreachable 2 32
Time Exceeded 0 0
Parameter Problems 0 0
Source Quenches 0 0
Redirects 0 0
Echo Replies 20 0
Echos 0 20
Timestamps 0 0
Timestamp Replies 0 0
Address Masks 0 0
Address Mask Replies 0 0
Router Solicitations 0 0
Router Advertisements 0 0
UDP Statistics for IPv4
Datagrams Received = 42
No Ports = 300
Receive Errors = 0
Datagrams Sent = 97
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway |
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| reply to Spice300
said by Spice300:ping -n 20 -w 8000 12.213.224.60
netstat -e is reporting about 25% reset connections on IPv4
You might want to make a stand alone thread on this topic.
Exede 5: Riverside Gateway
Interface Statistics
Received Sent
Bytes 131775864 14014780
Unicast packets 131662 80310
Non-unicast packets 4302 4164
Discards 0 0
Errors 0 0
Unknown protocols 0
Ping statistics for 12.213.224.60:
Packets: Sent = 20, Received = 20, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 593ms, Maximum = 667ms, Average = 624ms
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