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Class Action Lawsuit against EA? Got this in my email...

Claim ID#: ########
Please make a note of this Claim ID#.
Notice of Proposed Settlement of Class Action
United States Federal District Court for the Northern District of California
1301 Clay Street, Oakland, CA 94612
IF YOU ARE IN THE UNITED STATES AND BOUGHT A NEW COPY OF AN ELECTRONIC ARTS’ MADDEN NFL, NCAA FOOTBALL, OR ARENA FOOTBALL VIDEOGAME FOR XBOX, XBOX 360, PLAYSTATION 2, PLAYSTATION 3, GAMECUBE, PC, OR WII, WITH A RELEASE DATE OF JANUARY 1, 2005 TO JUNE 21, 2012, YOUR RIGHTS MAY BE AFFECTED.
Aga click aqui para una version en Espanol del aviso
Customers of Electronic Arts Inc. have filed a class action lawsuit alleging that Electronic Arts violated their rights under federal and California law.
The Court has allowed the lawsuit to be a class action on behalf of all persons in the United States who purchased a new copy of an Electronic Arts’ Madden NFL, NCAA Football, or Arena Football videogame for Xbox, Xbox 360, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, GameCube, PC, or Wii, with a release date of January 1, 2005 to June 21, 2012.
Electronic Arts has denied any liability and all allegations of misconduct. The Court has not decided whether the Plaintiffs’ claims have any merit. However, your legal rights are affected, and you have a choice to make now:
YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS AND OPTIONS IN THIS LAWSUIT
SUBMIT A CLAIM FORM BY MARCH 5, 2013

Stay in this lawsuit. Submit a Claim Form. Await the outcome. If the Settlement is approved by the Court you may be eligible for a payment of money under the Settlement. Be bound by the result.
By submitting a Claim Form you keep the possibility of getting money or benefits that may come from the Settlement. But you give up any rights to sue Electronic Arts separately about the same legal claims in this lawsuit. If you do not file a Claim Form before March 5, 2013, you give up your right to get money from the Settlement if it is approved by the Court. You may file a claim online at www.easportslitigation.com.
SUBMIT AN OBJECTION BY DECEMBER 10, 2012
Object to the Settlement.
Stay in the lawsuit, but submit an objection. By objecting to the Settlement you give up your right to be excluded from the Settlement and your right to file your own action. If you object to the Settlement, you may ask a lawyer to represent you at your own cost.
ASK TO BE EXCLUDED BY
DECEMBER 10, 2012
Get out of this lawsuit. Get no benefits from it. Keep your rights.
If you ask to be excluded and money or benefits are later awarded, you won’t share in those. But you keep your right to sue Electronic Arts separately about the same legal claims in this lawsuit.
Basic Information
1. What is this notice about?
This notice explains that the Court has allowed, or “certified,” a class action lawsuit that may affect you and that there is a settlement pending in the case. You have legal rights and options in this action. This class action lawsuit is known as Pecover v. Electronic Arts, No. 08-cv-02820 CW. It is pending in the United States Federal District Court for the Northern District of California, located in Oakland, California.
2. What is this lawsuit about?
The lawsuit claims that Electronic Arts violated federal and California antitrust laws, as well as California consumer protection laws, by signing exclusive licensing agreements with the Arena Football League (“AFL”), the Collegiate Licensing Company (“CLC”) (on behalf of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (“NCAA”)), the National Football League (“NFL”), the National Football League Players Association (“NFLPA”) and ESPN. The lawsuit claims that these agreements gave Electronic Arts a monopoly over an alleged market for league-branded, simulation football videogames, and allowed it to charge higher prices than it would have in a competitive environment. The suit seeks to recover monetary damages and restitution, as well as injunctive relief.
Electronic Arts denies Plaintiffs’ allegations. Electronic Arts asserts that (i) there is no such thing as a discreet “market” for league-branded, simulation football videogames; (ii) the NFL and its Players’ Association, the NCAA, and other licensors asked Electronic Arts and other game publishers to bid for the rights to make videogames using their trademarks and other intellectual property rights; (iii) EA did so and was awarded certain rights to make videogames using these licensors’ trademarks and other intellectual property rights; (iv) it is not illegal to bid on trademark licenses, exclusive or otherwise, that intellectual property owners choose to offer, (v) exclusive trademark licenses are commonplace and widely accepted in commerce and under the law as one legitimate way for an intellectual property rights holder to maximize the value of its property, (vi) the conduct challenged by Plaintiffs has not injured consumers, and (vii) Electronic Arts has never charged supra-competitive prices for its videogames.
The Court has not decided whether Electronic Arts did anything wrong, and this Notice is not an expression of any opinion by the Court about the merits of any of the claims or defenses asserted by any party to this litigation.
3. What is a class action and who is involved?
In a class action lawsuit, one or more people (in this case Geoffrey Pecover and Andrew Owens) have sued on behalf of other people (called “Class Members”) who have similar claims. One court resolves the issues for everyone – except for those people who choose to exclude themselves from the class. The company sued in this case, Electronic Arts, is called the Defendant.
4. Why is this lawsuit a class action?
The Court decided that this lawsuit and the Settlement, if approved, can be a class action because it meets the requirements of Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 23, which governs class actions in federal courts. More information about why the Court is allowing this lawsuit to be a class action is in the Court’s Preliminary Approval Order, found here.
The Claims in the Lawsuit
5. What are the Plaintiffs’ claims in the lawsuit?
In the lawsuit, the Plaintiffs claim that Electronic Arts’ exclusive licensing agreements violate various federal and California laws. You can read the Plaintiffs’ First Amended Complaint, filed in Pecover v. Electronic Arts, No. 08-cv-02820 CW, dated May 9, 2011, here.
6. How does Electronic Arts answer?
Electronic Arts denies any wrongdoing and denies the Plaintiffs’ allegations. Electronic Arts contends that the exclusive licensing agreements are legal and proper, and that it never overcharged consumers for the videogames at issue. Additional information regarding Electronic Arts’ position is set out above (see “What is this lawsuit about?”).
7. Has the Court decided who is right?
The Court has not decided whether Electronic Arts is correct, or whether Plaintiffs are correct. By issuing this Notice, the Court is not suggesting that the Plaintiffs would have won or lost this case. This Notice is to inform you about the Settlement and that you must make a decision about it.
The Proposed Settlement
8. What are the terms of the Settlement?
The Settlement provides that Electronic Arts will pay $27 million into a fund that will include money for Settlement Class Members to be provided for timely and valid claims as detailed below in paragraph 9, after deducting payment for the costs of administering the Settlement, including the costs of this notice, attorneys’ fees, costs of the litigation and any payments allowed by the Court to the named Plaintiffs, known as the “class representatives.” This money is referred to here as the “Common Fund.”
Additionally, the Settlement provides that Electronic Arts will not enter into an exclusive trademark license with the AFL for five years from the date of approval of the Settlement; and that Electronic Arts will not renew its current collegiate football trademark license with the CLC on an exclusive basis for five years after it expires in 2014; and that Electronic Arts will not seek any new exclusive trademark license for the purpose of making football videogames with the CLC, the NCAA, or any NCAA member institution covered by the current exclusive license for five years after the expiration of the current CLC agreement. You can read more about the Settlement here.
The Settlement will release claims that consumers may have against Electronic Arts relating to the exclusive agreements, and any resulting overcharge for football videogames, for the period of time from January 1, 2005 to June 21, 2012, unless an individual excludes himself or herself from the Settlement. Specifically, the Settlement will release and forever discharge the claims that were pled or could have been pled in the Pecover v. Electronic Arts case. You can read more about the scope of the release and the released claims here.
9. How much will my payment be?
If approved by the Court, payments will be made to Settlement Class Members who submit timely and valid claims out of the net proceeds of the Settlement (the amount available after deducting payment of the costs of administering the Settlement, including the costs of this notice, attorneys’ fees, costs of the litigation, and any payments allowed by the Court to the named Plaintiffs) based on the type and number of videogames purchased by a Settlement Class Member.
If you are an eligible Settlement Class Member, your share of the net proceeds of the Settlement will be based upon the number of videogame titles you purchased new, as well as the number of Settlement Class Members who submit valid claims.
Valid claims for the purchase of Madden NFL, NCAA Football, or Arena Football videogames for the Xbox, PlayStation 2, PC, or GameCube platforms (“Sixth Generation Purchasers”) will be valued at $6.79 per new game purchased, up to a total of eight units ($54.32). Valid claims for the purchase of Madden NFL or NCAA Football videogames for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, or Wii platforms (“Seventh Generation Purchasers”) will be valued at $1.95 per new game purchased, up to a total of eight units ($15.60). The different amounts reflect the differences in Plaintiffs’ estimated overcharge for the various platforms, as determined by the economics experts hired by Plaintiffs to evaluate their claims.
If after receiving all valid claims, the claims administrator determines that the net settlement amount is sufficient to pay out all the valid claims submitted, then each valid claim will be paid out at the values listed above. If, however, the claims administrator determines that the net settlement amount is not enough to pay out all the valid claims submitted, then the claim amounts will be reduced on a pro rata basis.
If, after paying out valid claims made by Settlement Class Members, monies remain available, the parties will make their best efforts to identify Settlement Class Members who (i) have purchased sixth generation games, (ii) provided Electronic Arts with a physical mailing address, and (iii) did not submit a Claim, and send payment to such individuals in an amount that equals the average claim paid to a sixth generation purchaser who submitted a claim, without the necessity of a Claims Form.
10. Is there any money available now?
No money or benefits are available now because the Court has not yet decided whether to approve the Settlement. There is no guarantee that money or benefits ever will be obtained; however, if you want to participate in the Settlement you should file a claim online here, or submit the Claim Form, available here.
Who Is in the Settlement Class
You need to decide whether you are affected by this lawsuit.
11. Am I part of this Settlement Class?
You are a member of the Settlement Class if:
You are in the United States and bought a new copy of an Electronic Arts’ Madden NFL, NCAA Football, or Arena Football videogame for Xbox, Xbox 360, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, GameCube, PC, or Wii, with a release date of January 1, 2005 to June 21, 2012.
You are excluded from the Settlement Class if (1) you purchased the game(s) directly from Electronic Arts; (2) you purchased only used copies of the games; or (3) you are an employee, officer, director, or legal representative or Electronic Arts or a wholly or a partly owned subsidiary or affiliated company.
You are also excluded from the Settlement Class if you previously submitted a timely request for exclusion on or prior to June 25, 2011.
Your Rights and Options
You have to decide whether to participate in the Settlement and you have to decide this now.
12. What happens if I do nothing at all?
You must file a claim online here, or submit a Claim Form, (available here), by March 5, 2013 if you want to keep the possibility of getting money from this lawsuit.
Keep in mind that if (a) you do nothing or (b) you submit a Claim Form, you will not be able to sue, or continue to sue, Electronic Arts – as part of any other lawsuit – under state or federal law about any issues relating to the exclusive agreements described above, and any resulting overcharge for football videogames, for the period of time from January 1, 2005 to June 21, 2012.
Claim Forms may be submitted electronically through the website at www.easportslitigation.com or by first class mail to:
Electronic Arts Settlement
c/o Gilardi & Co. LLC
P.O. Box 808054
Petaluma CA 94975-8054
13. Why would I ask to be excluded?
If you want to exclude yourself from the Settlement Class and keep your right to sue Electronic Arts on your own for the claims described in paragraph 2 of this notice, you must take further action. (See below “How do I ask the Court to exclude me from the Settlement Class?”).
If you exclude yourself from the Settlement Class – which means to remove yourself from the Settlement Class, and is sometimes called “opting out” of the class – you won’t get any money or benefits from the Settlement. However, if you exclude yourself, this lawsuit will not interfere with any rights you have to sue or continue to sue or arbitrate against Electronic Arts in a separate case. If you elect to exclude yourself because you want to pursue your own claims against Electronic Arts, you should assert such claims promptly to protect against them being lost due to the passage of time. If you exclude yourself, you will not be legally bound by the Court’s judgments in this class action.
14. How do I ask the Court to exclude me from the Settlement Class?
To ask to be excluded, you must send a letter, postmarked by December 10, 2012, to the Class Counsel appointed by the Court:
Shana E. Scarlett
Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLP
715 Hearst Ave., Suite 202
Berkeley, CA 94710.
In your letter, be sure to reference the name of this lawsuit, Pecover v. Electronic Arts, and remember to sign the letter.
15. What happens if I do not exclude myself from the Settlement Class?
Any Settlement Class Member who does not properly and timely request exclusion from the Settlement Class shall, upon final approval of the Settlement, be bound by all the terms and provisions of the Settlement, including but not limited to the releases, waivers, and covenants described in the Settlement; their claims against Electronic Arts shall forever be released and dismissed, whether or not such person or entity objected to such Settlement and whether or not such person or entity made a claim upon any fund from such Settlement.
16. How do I object to the Settlement?
If you are a Settlement Class Member, you can tell the Court that you don’t agree with the Settlement or some part of it. You can give reasons why you think the Court should not approve it. The Court will consider your views. If you do not file an objection to the Settlement, you waive your right to object to and/or appeal the Settlement.
To object, you must send a letter saying that you object to the Settlement in Pecover v. Electronic Arts. Be sure to include your name, address, telephone number, your signature, and the reasons you object to the Settlement. Mail the objection to these two different places postmarked no later than December 10, 2012:
Court
Class Counsel
United States District Court, 1301 Clay Street,
Oakland, CA 94612
Shana E. Scarlett
Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLP
715 Hearst Ave., Suite 202
Berkeley, CA 94710
Objecting is simply telling the Court that you don’t like something about the Settlement. You can object only if you stay in the Settlement Class. Excluding yourself is telling the Court that you don’t want to be part of the Settlement Class. If you exclude yourself, you have no basis to object because the case no longer affects you.
You have the right to consult and/or retain an attorney of your choice at your own expense to advise you regarding the Settlement and your rights in connection with the Settlement and the Settlement Fairness Hearing as described below. You also have the right, either personally or through an attorney retained and paid by you, to seek to intervene in the case.
17. What Is the Settlement Fairness Hearing and When Is It?
On February 7, 2013 at 2:00 pm, a hearing will be held in Courtroom 2 of the Oakland Courthouse of the United States Federal District Court for the Northern District of California, located at 1301 Clay St., Oakland, CA 94612, to determine whether the Settlement should be approved by the Court as fair, reasonable, and adequate, whether judgment should be entered thereon, and whether this lawsuit should be dismissed with prejudice against Electronic Arts (“Settlement Fairness Hearing”).
The Court will also consider at the Settlement Fairness Hearing the request of Class Counsel for an award of attorneys’ fees, not to exceed 30% of the Common Fund or $9 million; the request of Class Counsel for reimbursement of expenses incurred in pursuing this lawsuit, not to exceed $2,000,000; and a request for incentive awards to each class representative not to exceed $5,000 per individual. These amounts, if awarded, will be deducted from the Common Fund.
Your attendance at the Settlement Fairness Hearing is not required. However, you may be heard orally at the Settlement Fairness Hearing in opposition to the proposed Settlement or Class Counsel’s application for attorneys’ fees and expenses, but only if you have timely filed written objections in the manner described above, including a statement that you intend to appear and be heard at the Settlement Fairness Hearing. You may also enter an appearance through an attorney, at your own expense. If you do not do so, you will be represented in the case by Class Counsel.
The time and date of the Settlement Fairness Hearing may be changed without further notice to the Settlement Class. Any changes to the date and time of the Settlement Fairness Hearing will be posted at www.easportslitigation.com.
Pending final determination of whether the Settlement should be approved, you and your representatives are barred from filing any lawsuit asserting any claims against Electronic Arts that relate to the settled claims as defined above.
Important Dates:
December 10, 2012: Last day for Settlement Class Members to file with District Court Clerk and serve above-listed Class Counsel with notice of their intent to appear and be heard at the Settlement Fairness Hearing, including notice of objection to any Settlement.
February 7, 2013: Fairness Hearing, includes hearing to finally approve the Settlement. (Date subject to change per District Court Order. Any changes to the date and time of the Fairness Hearing will be posted at www.easportslitigation.com.)
The Lawyers Representing You
18. Do the Settlement Class Members have a lawyer in this case?
The Court appointed the law firms of Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro LLP and The Paynter Law Firm PLLC to represent the Plaintiffs and Settlement Class Members. Together the law firms are called “Class Counsel.” More information about these law firms, their practices, and their lawyers’ experience is available at www.hbsslaw.com and www.smplegal.com.
19. Should I get my own lawyer?
If you choose to remain in the Settlement Class, you do not need to hire your own lawyer because Class Counsel are working on your behalf. But if you want your own lawyer, you will be responsible for paying that lawyer. For example, you can ask him or her to appear in Court for you if you want someone other than Class Counsel to speak for you.
20. How will the lawyers be paid?
If the Settlement is approved, Class Counsel will ask the Court for fees and expenses. If the Court grants Class Counsel’s request, the fees and expenses would be deducted from the $27 million Common Fund paid by Electronic Arts. Class Counsel have agreed not to seek more than 30% of the Common Fund, or $9 million, as compensation. Class Counsel have also agreed not to seek more than $2,000,000 for expenses incurred in pursuing this lawsuit. Class Counsel’s motion for fees and costs must be filed by November 26, 2012, and will be posted shortly thereafter to the website www.easportslitigation.com. You can object to the requests of Class Counsel by following the procedure for objecting to the Settlement described in paragraph 16.
The Parties’ Reasons for Settlement
21. What are the parties' reasons for settlement?
As part of this litigation, Class Counsel have conducted extensive formal discovery into the claims of the members of the Settlement Class and the defenses that might be asserted thereto. Based on this discovery and investigation, Class Counsel believes that the Settlement is fair, reasonable and adequate and in the best interest of the Settlement Class. Class Counsel and Plaintiffs also recognize the expense and length of continued proceedings necessary to continue the litigation against Electronic Arts through verdict, judgment, and appeals, and have taken into account the uncertainty and the risk of the outcome of continued litigation, especially in a complex action such as this, and the difficulties and delays inherent in such an action.
Electronic Arts has denied and continues to deny each and all of the claims and contentions alleged by the Plaintiffs. Electronic Arts has repeatedly asserted and continues to assert many defenses thereto, and has expressly denied and continues to deny (i) any wrongdoing or legal liability arising out of any of the conduct alleged in the class action and (ii) that the Settlement Class has suffered any damage by reason of the alleged wrongdoing. Nevertheless, Electronic Arts has concluded that further conduct of this litigation against it would be protracted and expensive and that settlement therefore is desirable. Electronic Arts also has taken into account the uncertainty and the risk of the outcome in any litigation, especially complex cases such as this one. Electronic Arts has, therefore, determined that it is desirable and beneficial to it that the litigation be settled in the manner and upon the terms and conditions set forth in the proposed Settlement.
Getting More Information
22. Are more details available?
THIS NOTICE CONTAINS ONLY A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED SETTLEMENT.
Additional information about this lawsuit and the proposed Settlement are on file with the District Court. Additionally, you can also view the First Amended Complaint that the Plaintiffs submitted, the order certifying the class, the Court’s Preliminary Approval Order, the Stipulation and Agreement of Class Action Settlement and Release, and other case-related documents here.
You may also contact the Settlement Administrator by sending an email to info@easportslitigation.com, or by writing to EA Sports Litigation Settlement, c/o Gilardi & Co. LLC, PO Box 808054, Petaluma, CA 94975-8054. Please do not contact the Court. Please also do not contact Electronic Arts or the lawyers for Electronic Arts.

tl;dr - Yea, me either...

jester121
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Lake Zurich, IL

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What a fucking joke -- Lawyers and politicians....

Say what you want about EA, but there's something wrong with California law if EA can't have exclusive rights to NFL for their games. No wonder business and residents are fleeing in droves.
Chuck_IV
join:2003-11-18
Connecticut

Chuck_IV

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said by jester121:

What a fucking joke -- Lawyers and politicians....

Say what you want about EA, but there's something wrong with California law if EA can't have exclusive rights to NFL for their games. No wonder business and residents are fleeing in droves.

Agreed. It's the same thing that the cable companies whined about with Directv having exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket.

What these lawsuits fail to understand is it is the NFL's product to sell and it is the NFL that is deciding to make it exclusive to one entity. It's not the EAs or Directvs of the world making these decisions.

If the NFL wants to make their product exclusive, then so be it. It is THEIR product. They can decide how to sell it.

Raible
join:2008-01-23
Plainfield, IN

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Damn, you blacked out your claim number. I was totally going to steal your $2.50.

Phantasee
join:2009-08-27
Hammond, LA

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Cali can eat me.

Koil
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join:2002-09-10
Irmo, SC

Koil to Raible

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I'm on to you sneaky, rat bastards!

OmenQ
Spazz
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Continuum

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Incredible that the court would even entertain this nonsense. What a waste of time.
You're right, it is the NFL's product to sell however they see fit. EA has no control over who can produce an NFL game. I work for a company that deals with sports licensing, so I know this is true. The license holder dictates how their brand is represented, not the company producing the product.
Are they going to sue car dealership next, for being exclusive to one brand?

C0deZer0
Oc'D To Rhythm And Police
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said by Chuck_IV:

Agreed. It's the same thing that the cable companies whined about with Directv having exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket.

What these lawsuits fail to understand is it is the NFL's product to sell and it is the NFL that is deciding to make it exclusive to one entity. It's not the EAs or Directvs of the world making these decisions.

If the NFL wants to make their product exclusive, then so be it. It is THEIR product. They can decide how to sell it.

What you are casually forgetting, however, is that the Madden franchise has only shown significant progress in becoming a better product in the years when they had strong competitors bringing out an NFL-branded football game. Before said exclusivity, they even had a Windows PC version of Madden available, which has conspicuously disappeared since their acquisition of said rights.

The purchase of the NFL exclusivity was almost entirely a knee-jerk reaction to Sega's NFL 2k5 in the eyes of gamers; only up until Madden '12 and '13 has the presentation value of EA's game FINALLY caught up with the presentation and production values shown in the last competing product they had to rival against. I'm sure the disruptive business practice of charging $20 for a brand new copy when EA was set to charge $50~60 for their title likely didn't help, either. Most review sites seemed to think that many people bought 2k in addition to Madden, as the sales numbers for that year didn't dip that much. I would be one who wouldn't have bothered to pick up Madden at all, but picked up 2k, and was glad I did.

Oh sure, I've played Madden games post-buyout... but none have been really solid enough to justify a purchase. At first it was in protest to the buyout. But even after that, it's just that none have really felt worth the asking price... or pirating, for that matter.

On another note, the division of EA that actually handles Madden is in Maitland, Florida; it is not in California.

Then again, I'm also repulsed with how the NFL has been handling their game-based properties. It is because of them that NFL Blitz for all intents doesn't exist anymore.

diablo18926
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Wait so this is from California? California is having a problem with pirates right now, i know this is totally off subject but I must say- they are BS (doing somethin like this) never will I be living or going to California in my life.. I don't know what to think when looking at this lawsuit claim though, i'v seen a couple others in the past and i just dont know what to think but to leave that company alone for a while or forever.

Raible
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said by Koil:

I'm on to you sneaky, rat bastards!

I got my check just last week from the Classmates.com class action lawsuit and I just haven't decided yet how I'm going to go blow my $3.65.

Koil
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Irmo, SC

Koil

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said by Raible:

I got my check just last week from the Classmates.com class action lawsuit and I just haven't decided yet how I'm going to go blow my $3.65.

Well, first...slow down...take a few breaths.

Best thing to do is talk to a financial adviser when you come into a windfall of this magnitude. Best to have a plan in place than try to figure it out on your own. 1 Big Mac, and you're back out on the street, my friend.

ekster
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I'm an accountant and a financial adviser that has experience with both Canadian and US investment possibilities.

Shoot me a PM and I will give you all your best options.

I will also give you a special BBR discount and make it ONLY $275 for the advise.

Koil
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Koil

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said by ekster:

I'm an accountant and a financial adviser that has experience with both Canadian and US investment possibilities.

Shoot me a PM and I will give you all your best options.

I will also give you a special BBR discount and make it ONLY $275 for the advise.

Sounds legit.
IamGimli (banned)
join:2004-02-28
Canada

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said by jester121:

What a fucking joke -- Lawyers and politicians....

Say what you want about EA, but there's something wrong with California law if EA can't have exclusive rights to NFL for their games. No wonder business and residents are fleeing in droves.

Actually, the Court hasn't said anything at all.

This is a notice of a settlement agreement between the plaintiffs and the defendants. There is absolutely no Court judgement involved whatsoever.

Besides the plaintiffs' claim isn't that exclusive rights are illegal, but rather that it is illegal to use exclusive rights to overcharge customers under various federal and state laws.

You may want to learn to read before making such moronic statements.

jester121
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"Overcharge" customers. That's rich.

And here I thought price tags made things pretty plainly clear.
IamGimli (banned)
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said by jester121:

"Overcharge" customers. That's rich.

And here I thought price tags made things pretty plainly clear.

Thank you for proving once again that you have no understanding whatsoever of the situation or anti-trust laws.