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88615298
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Re: Simple way to avoid copyright issues

said by pnh102:

Most people who pirate stuff would not be buying the content legitimately to begin with.

That's not true and you're just stereotyping people.


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said by 88615298:

said by pnh102:

Most people who pirate stuff would not be buying the content legitimately to begin with.

That's not true and you're just stereotyping people.

Can anybody cite studies on this, demonstrating that one, or the other is true?

I personally know someone who would pirate music as a "try-before-buy" exercise. After listening, they deleted. Then either bought, if they liked it, or not. Probably not typical, but absent any study, how do we know what is typical?

I pirated anime back in the day, because NA releases were few. Now damned near every anime show finds its way here, so piracy is more trouble than it's worth.

OTOH, I have contributed to the decline in RIAA member's revenues; just not through piracy. I only have a limited amount of money to spend on music, and I switched from domestic production to offshore. The soundtrack recording from, (Vampire Miyu, cost twice what the soundtrack recording of, Buffy the Vampire Slayer cost. But given the choice between two RIAA music albums and one Japanese album, I chose to stick it to the RIAA.
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88615298
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said by NormanS:

said by 88615298:

said by pnh102:

Most people who pirate stuff would not be buying the content legitimately to begin with.

That's not true and you're just stereotyping people.

Can anybody cite studies on this, demonstrating that one, or the other is true?

If the content owners would change it's way of doing business I'm sure they can increase sales and reduce piracy. It was proven that Netflix was reducing piracy then the content owners decided it was good idea to try to kill Netflix and Redbox.


pnh102
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reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

Can anybody cite studies on this, demonstrating that one, or the other is true?

I agree that my post is reasoned speculation, but I certainly do not buy for a second the content industry's claim that every instance of piracy is equal to a lost sale.
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said by pnh102:

said by NormanS:

Can anybody cite studies on this, demonstrating that one, or the other is true?

I agree that my post is reasoned speculation, but I certainly do not buy for a second the content industry's claim that every instance of piracy is equal to a lost sale.

Nor is every lost sale due to piracy.
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88615298
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reply to pnh102

said by pnh102:

said by NormanS:

Can anybody cite studies on this, demonstrating that one, or the other is true?

I agree that my post is reasoned speculation, but I certainly do not buy for a second the content industry's claim that every instance of piracy is equal to a lost sale.

I may never intend on paying $8 to see a movie at the local theater. So the theater isn't losing a sale by me sneaking in. That however doesn't give me the right to sneak in because I feel the price is too high and I don't want to pay it.

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You 'can' pay for 'on-Demand' or wait until it comes on Blu-Ray/DVD at the local RedBox.

There are legal alternatives.



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reply to 88615298

said by 88615298:

I may never intend on paying $8 to see a movie at the local theater. So the theater isn't losing a sale by me sneaking in.

That's not what the content industry is arguing.

They are claiming that everyone who sneaks into the theater or otherwise watches the movie illegitimately would have paid the $11 ($8? Nice!) for a ticket to watch the movie, if there was simply enough incentive to do so.
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88615298
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said by pnh102:

said by 88615298:

I may never intend on paying $8 to see a movie at the local theater. So the theater isn't losing a sale by me sneaking in.

That's not what the content industry is arguing.

They are claiming that everyone who sneaks into the theater or otherwise watches the movie illegitimately would have paid the $11 ($8? Nice!) for a ticket to watch the movie, if there was simply enough incentive to do so.

You're missing my point. My reluctance to pay doesn't not give me a right to that content.


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reply to NormanS

said by NormanS:

said by 88615298:

said by pnh102:

Most people who pirate stuff would not be buying the content legitimately to begin with.

That's not true and you're just stereotyping people.

Can anybody cite studies on this, demonstrating that one, or the other is true?

Ever heard of iTunes? Or the insanely rising sales of online video sales? Or are we ignoring those quite easily seen options?

Good products with Good values and Good selections MAKE MONEY HAND-IN-FIST.

Of course, we usually get a half-assed try with most online sources and then those who cant find their stuff ANYWHERE (like me) end up pirating it.

Want me to buy it? Put it up. I buy everything I can legally.


pnh102
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reply to 88615298

said by 88615298:

You're missing my point. My reluctance to pay doesn't not give me a right to that content.

I'm not claiming it does.

Me personally, I agree that copyrights must be respected by all, but I don't think that my ISP subscriber fees should be financing that effect, especially when I have to prove that I am innocent of such infringement should I get one of these love notes. As a paying customer, I am the boss, and it is my ass that should be kissed by the vendor, not the other way around.

If content owners wish to go after those who infringe on their work, there exist plenty of existing legal vehicles for them to go do that.
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reply to 88615298

said by 88615298:

said by pnh102:

said by NormanS:

Can anybody cite studies on this, demonstrating that one, or the other is true?

I agree that my post is reasoned speculation, but I certainly do not buy for a second the content industry's claim that every instance of piracy is equal to a lost sale.

I may never intend on paying $8 to see a movie at the local theater. So the theater isn't losing a sale by me sneaking in. That however doesn't give me the right to sneak in because I feel the price is too high and I don't want to pay it.

$8???? My local threader is $14 for an adult 3D movie and $11 for 2D.