reply to Nick D
Re: [MoP] Great Post - I couldn't agree more
said by Nick D:Excellent point. With the nerf to valor rewards from your first 7 daily runs (from 150ea down to 30ea) grinding out your valor caps using dungeons without dailies is painful. You still can't spend the valor unless you've already ground out the requisite rep. Each rep quest grants you only 5 vp (this was a small token added not to incentivize valor, but to dull the pain of grinding dailies for those who'd rather just grind out dungeons but now can't)... so you have to knock out 6 rep quests to equal one dungeon's worth of valor... but you need far more than 6 rep quests to gain rep in a timely fashion. And, if you miss a day doing rep dailies... you don't just miss out on 6 quests... but on all of them, since you've lost out on a day's worth of progression.
He mentioned in BC spending hours farming for herbs for raid consumables, but those hours tended to be concentrated. If he didn't herb on Thursday, he could do so on Sunday (or whatever).
That was a sound argument. They understood that argument at one point (by giving valor from randoms a weekly cap, instead of a daily one)...let people spend 4 hours on a weekend doing their rep grind, instead of 45 minutes every day.
But it bears mentioning that we are talking about "need" from a reference of wanting to raid (not being carried) in the first couple of weeks of hitting 90. It was inflated by being a new expansion where no one in the guild had the rep to help anyone else out with crafted epics... but it will still be there (to a lesser degree) for those still hitting 90 this week. But even having a guild grant alts and fresh 90s is gated... by the need to farm Motes of Harmony and Spirits of Harmony for the epic crafted items.
Guild leader of Pride and Ego
Immergruen (resto/boomie) on Nathrezim Server (US)
Agrende (discipline/holy); Esclavizado (blood/unholy)
Intelligence is no substitute for Character.
Dailies are a must on the guild, both to get GL patterns and coins for extra loot chance at raid...
The rest of VP cap can come from Heroics and now LFR, it's highly recomended to cap VP for that elusive piece that refuses to drop in raid..
Now for doing the dailies, at least on Mal'ganus there are plenty of people asking for grouping in dailies, so they go down fast, 15 mins tops you finish 3 tiers of GL dailies with a 3-4 man group.
said by djlar:I agree. I believe that Blizz designed these for groups and wanted to bring people together to get these done. This ties into their whole world PvP, pitting one group of questers with another.
15 mins tops you finish 3 tiers of GL dailies with a 3-4 man group.
However this camaraderie does not seem to always happen. And thus the world is left with every man for himself.
Tiermordius on Nathrezim Server (US)
Main Tank for Pride and Ego