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Re: Goodbye Clear Qam Channels - FCC ruling said by BF69:said by minimeme :sure does sound like another way to screw over customers to me
Yes Charter gets to do what DirecTv, DishNetwork, U-Verse and FiOS have been doing for YEARS. How evil of cable to expect fair play. I don;t about you but like oh 85% of Charter customers I have digital cable which mean I already have a box so this rule doesn't affect me in the least. It's really going to suck for Charter to be able to do a service call from the head end without having to send a tech guy out. I much rather have to wait all day for a guy to come out and then get charged $40 or more for the privilege. Uhh dude...Directv dishnetwork uverse and fios need a box to convert the signal! Cable doesn't!!!!!!! Except for certain tiers. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by nonamesleft:Uhh dude...Directv dishnetwork uverse and fios need a box to convert the signal! Cable doesn't!!!!!!! Except for certain tiers. Um dude in case you haven't heard Charter is going all digital and in fact they have done that already in certain areas. So please explain to me how an old fashion CRT that only has a NTSC tuner is going to convert a digital signal which has QAM modulation without a box of some sort? I eagerly await you response.
By the way none of this has anything to do with the rule which just says Charter can now encrypt locals. Everything else was going to be encrypted anyways. |
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| said by BF69:said by nonamesleft:Uhh dude...Directv dishnetwork uverse and fios need a box to convert the signal! Cable doesn't!!!!!!! Except for certain tiers. Um dude in case you haven't heard Charter is going all digital and in fact they have done that already in certain areas. So please explain to me how an old fashion CRT that only has a NTSC tuner is going to convert a digital signal which has QAM modulation without a box of some sort? I eagerly await you response. By the way none of this has anything to do with the rule which just says Charter can now encrypt locals. Everything else was going to be encrypted anyways. digital is the same as encrypting. There is a question awaiting your response in the monday links section, you better go answer his comment. |
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 DrDrewSo that others may surf.
join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:8 | Digital is far from the same as encrypting.
ClearQAM is digital but not encrypted. Many TVs and other devices can view these signals.
Encrypted QAM needs authorization and the proper equipment to decode, most TVs and other devices can't do it. CableCARDs were the FCCs answer to allow the decryption of cable signals by 3rd party equipment. They were integral to both authorization of equipment and decryption of the signals.
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If it's important, back it up... twice. Even 99.999% availability isn't enough sometimes. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to nonamesleft
Um no it's not. The HD locals are digital they are not encrypted. OTA signals are digital they are not encrypted. |
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| said by BF69:Um no it's not. The HD locals are digital they are not encrypted. OTA signals are digital they are not encrypted. Then whats the problem then? You like when cable does this to you guys? You are lucky you don't need a box from the cable company for your toilet to make it work! These cable companies need regulators that don't give a cable companies a free pass and really law down the rules. |
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| What can you expect from the FCC when the policy makers are there by appointment and their longest stay is 8 years, if that long. They’re looking post FCC and being employed by the companies they regulate, rather directly employed or as a consultant or lobbyist …. They’re looking out for #1. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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Exactly my point.
You like when cable does this to you guys?
These cable companies need regulators that don't give a cable companies a free pass and really law down the rules
Your logic is
DirecTv requires a box and encrypts ALL channels = totally acceptable
Charter requiring a box and encrypting ALL channels = greedy mother f-----s that need to die! |
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| said by BF69:Exactly my point. You like when cable does this to you guys? Nothing is being done to me. I have digital cable which requires a box anyways. Those channels are already encrypted. This ruling and Charter conversion to all digital don't affect me one bit. These cable companies need regulators that don't give a cable companies a free pass and really law down the rules Once again there is no free pass. If anyone has had a free pass it's DirecTv, DishNetwork, U-verse and FiOS. yes in fantasyland everything would be free and no one would have to work. But this is real life. So yeah I guess box free and unencrypted would be nice but it's not fair that the others play by one set of rules and cable has had to go by another set. Your logic is DirecTv requires a box and encrypts ALL channels = totally acceptable Charter requiring a box and encrypting ALL channels = greedy mother f-----s that need to die! So it's ok to have to require a box for clear qam channels, when the damned tv has a qam tuner built in? Gosh stupid me! Lets pay the cable company MORE money for an unnecessary box! |
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krudl3r
join:2005-06-29
Eau Claire, WI | reply to nonamesleft
Re: Goodbye Clear Qam Channels - FCC ruling Yeah, this really stinks for a bedroom tv that you don't have room for a box... thanks Charter. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by krudl3r:Yeah, this really stinks for a bedroom tv that you don't have room for a box... thanks Charter.
Thanks for what? I haven't heard they are getting rid of clear QAM channels yet. |
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krudl3r
join:2005-06-29
Eau Claire, WI | They just told me that today... in a couple of months is what I was told.
As posted above, this may be market specific. The rep I spoke to was from WI, as I. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by krudl3r:They just told me that today... in a couple of months is what I was told.
As posted above, this may be market specific. The rep I spoke to was from WI, as I.
What specifically did they say? I know in some areas they are all digital and they will everywhere eventually. But only those that were on analog expanded basic tier need a box and it's not even a regular box is a DTA Not much larger than a roku. |
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krudl3r
join:2005-06-29
Eau Claire, WI | It was just a brief part of a larger discussion about cancelling the TV portion of my service. I specifically mentioned the FCC ruling and asked if Charter plans to encrypt clear qam and the response was "yes, starting in about two months". I didn't press for details as, while it will affect my service after discontinuing [paying for] TV service, it does not affect the decision (that is strictly based on the cost going from 90 to 135). |
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