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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

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reply to JasonOD

Re: What do you expect???

said by JasonOD :

DSL can't compete in todays world so why would you expect AT&T to keep throwing money at it?

As VZ proved (and google is about to find out), fibre to the home isn't a viable product for many reasons not just cost. So that leaves wireless, which AT&T is investing a STUNNING amount.

So AT&T will allow people to stay on DSL until wireless matures and comes down in cost (it will). WIN WIN.

What proofs do you have that ftth isnt viable? Looks to me that Verizon is a very profitable enterprise.

Wireless has lower caps, overage charges, and higher latency.
While wireless may be more viable for a company to engage in profiteering, it is not more viable for end users.

profiteer (plural profiteers)
1.(pejorative) One who makes an unreasonable profit not justified by cost or risk.
»en.wiktionary.org/wiki/profiteer


buddahbless

join:2005-03-21
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I Agree FTTH is profitable if done right, to the start the savings from not having to worry about copper theft in the rural areas were some places are replacing copper as much as 2-3x a year ( were its reported its now a epidemic that will continue to rise) that alone makes it more than a viable option for cost saving. One sign on every pole reading " this pole is strung with fiber wire, No resale value" would end the rash of copper theft.

If you haven't noticed Jason ATT and Verizon already have there cover story down so prices for fixed wireless will stay up..." spectrum is scarce and hard to come by we don't have enough!" yet there business model is to push everyone to wireless? thats a catch 22. Ending the one technology that can be run to everyone and has more than enough capex for future use, fiber.

Its only a win win for ATT, loose loose for the customer.

elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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reply to gaforces
said by gaforces:

said by JasonOD :

DSL can't compete in todays world so why would you expect AT&T to keep throwing money at it?

As VZ proved (and google is about to find out), fibre to the home isn't a viable product for many reasons not just cost. So that leaves wireless, which AT&T is investing a STUNNING amount.

So AT&T will allow people to stay on DSL until wireless matures and comes down in cost (it will). WIN WIN.

What proofs do you have that ftth isnt viable? Looks to me that Verizon is a very profitable enterprise.

Show us proof that Verizon is profiting from FTTH, and that over the next ten years, if they risk billions more expanding their footprint, that potential customers in those areas will pay the market rate for Fios at rate greater than current penetration rates, even as LTE and Coax offerings come in cheaper and cheaper.

Until someone figures out how to reduce the cost of FTTH down to DSL levels, copper and coax will rule the day. It doesn't matter that FTTH is the best, most superior technology. If the majority of customers don't want to pay for it, it isn't incumbent on the incumbent to install it, unless, perhaps, you want to return them to legal monopoly status, inclusive of MSO and LTE franchises, and that won't be cheap.

EricPost7

join:2009-08-30
Chicago, IL
reply to gaforces
What a joke!!! Have you ever heard of the REA. Back in the Great Depression, rural area didn't have electricity. Everyone said, it would be impossible to wire the nation, especially very small rural areas.

Then came the Great Depression. The government hired workers to string the nation, pole to pole and provide electricity. By 1953, Kentucky the last state was finished and the nation was declared, wired for electric. Sure it was missing one or two very isolated areas, and WWII interrupted a lot of the time frame but it was EASY to do.

So it's BS to say fiber wouldn't work. Use the SAME POLES and SAME PATHS as the electric wire. Hire people from the Great RECESSION to lay the lines.

Make the lines open to ANYONE and completion would flourish and rates would plummet.

It worked before and it could work again. Now, for those of you still scratching your head, shall I tell the cat and have the cat explain it to you. Cause the cat is gonna get it.