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Maxo
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Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal is released today.

A quick overview of the new features can be reviewed at

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbrOrR3wctc

It should soon be available for download at »www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop


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Is it me or is Unity beginning to resemble Android at least conceptually anyway? That video reminded me of using my Nexus 7 Android tablet.
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Maxo
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Could you elaborate? I don't see any major resemblances.


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The lay sorta looks like something you'd find on a tablet. I'm wondering why everyone is gearing their OSes to mimic the look of a tablet OS.

Is the people behind Ubuntu looking to have it run on a tablet?
I think it would be "neat", to have the full blown OS on a tablet instead of Android.
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Is it that time again?



Maxo
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said by Snakeoil:

Is the people behind Ubuntu looking to have it run on a tablet?

Yes. At the UDS for 12.04 in Orlando it was announced that work would begin to have Ubuntu running on tablets, phones and TVs. The phone and tablet work has been pretty stagnant to the best of my knowledge. Ubuntu TV work is well on its way.
Todays' Unity interface would be horrible to run on a portable device as the interface requires a lot of keyboard use to be effective. It is also designed to try to get people from placing stuff on their desktop. On tablets desktops are key to easy usability.
So Unity has a long way to go before it will be ready to work on portable handheld devices, but getting it there is a longterm goal of the project.
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said by Snakeoil:

The lay sorta looks like something you'd find on a tablet. I'm wondering why everyone is gearing their OSes to mimic the look of a tablet OS.

Is the people behind Ubuntu looking to have it run on a tablet?
I think it would be "neat", to have the full blown OS on a tablet instead of Android.

Android is a full blown OS. What are you talking about? It is based on the Linux kernel we all love and can be manipulated with the same commands, provided you have the binaries. The Android OpenVPN installer, for example, installs a compiled Linux OpenVPN binary, which uses the same config. Btw, I always vpn my phone. I don't trust the airwaves as far as I can throw them.
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I know Android is based on Linux, I also know it's on tablets/smart phones. But Android doesn't run on laptops/desktops [as far as I know. Maybe someone managed to hack it so it does, I dunno].
I have a Nexus 7, and Jellybean is a lot different from the Ubuntu that I am running on my PC. But then again, I'm more of a user and not a programmer. I tried programing years ago, and found it tedious, mind numbing, and boring. Though I still have to have a little knowledge in it, so I can understand why certain signals are where they are on a circuit board, and what they should look like.
However, windows is going to release Windows 8 very soon. My understanding is the Windows Surface Tablet has the full blown Windows 8 on it, though in tablet form.

Hence why I was asking if Ubuntu was heading the same way. So you could use a tablet, or a PC, and see just about the same thing.
Unlike now. Where Android/IOS are completely different from what is running on their computer counter parts.
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So far it looks neat, but still looks too Tablet like. Forgot where, but in some other Ubuntu based forum I ran across a thread talking about Unity & someone suggested they should change the Unity name. I replied back that Perhaps they should call it Ayatollah instead, as in "Ay-a-toll-ah we won't move the Unity Bar!"
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Maxo
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The name Unity is to suggest that there is Unity between the interface Ubuntu will be using for both their desktop OS and their tablet/phone interface. So yes, a move to the tablet is an explicit goal of Unity. But today it is not usable as a interface where the primary interaction comes through touch.
The Android and iOS interface are designed to specifically target tablets and phones. I have used Android in a desktop configuration (keybaord, mouse, monitor) and it was not a bad experience.
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My old instructions for moving the window buttons no longer works. Using gconf-editor and changing the string will not move the minimize,maximise,close buttons back to the right.


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Wonderful, I guess. But, for the first time in 6 years I'm not all over this doing an upgrade. I'm sticking with 12.04 for the foreseeable future.

Not casting stones, just staying with what I've got configured for a while.
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said by Derspankster:

I'm sticking with 12.04 for the foreseeable future.


Ditto. I have 12.04 (De-Unified) running quite nicely on 3 boxen, not interested in migrating until I absolutely have to.

I used to enjoy tinkering with distros and upgrades, now I just want to use my rigs.

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I'm gonna stick with Xubuntu 12.04. And wait till they Finally add Xfce 4.10 in Synaptic. Yes I know there's a PPA for it, but every time I go that route, Thomas The Tank Engine whispers in the back of my head "Then There Was Trouble"!
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I've installed xfce 4.10 in my 12.04.1 system and so far have had no trouble at all from doing so. I've also used a launchpad download of a deb file to replace the defective system-monitor panel applet from 12.04 with the fixed version from Quantal, again with no problem. Now if I could only figure out how to kill tooltips on the xfdesktop icons while leaving them active for the panel applets, I'd have the best of all worlds...

They're not ever going to put xfce 4.10 into Precise; they never do such version updates unless it's a security issue.
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Maxo
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That's mostly the route I am going down too. My work machine, and my primary desktop stay on LTS releases. My daughter's machine gets the latest, though I'm waiting just a bit to upgrader. My laptop gets the latest release, and then goes to the next release cycle around Alpha time.


Santa Fe
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said by jimkyle:

I've installed xfce 4.10 in my 12.04.1 system and so far have had no trouble at all from doing so. I've also used a launchpad download of a deb file to replace the defective system-monitor panel applet from 12.04 with the fixed version from Quantal, again with no problem. Now if I could only figure out how to kill tooltips on the xfdesktop icons while leaving them active for the panel applets, I'd have the best of all worlds...

They're not ever going to put xfce 4.10 into Precise; they never do such version updates unless it's a security issue.

Well I'm a big Hypocrite, said I wasn't gonna do it & then went & did it. Good news is, everything works. Bad news is, for some reason even though I upgraded Xubuntu 12.04, the Plymouth screen now says Lubuntu 12.10. Boy, install Lubuntu on my Xfce box and it gets all pushy on me.

BTW: Like that avatar, think I've seen it somewhere else before......
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