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battleop

join:2005-09-28
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I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.
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mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI

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said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Sure they can cry, but they're full of BS. ATT buying T-Mobile would have eliminated a competitor. The Japanese buying Sprint actually stregthens one. Big difference there.


FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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reply to battleop
said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Yes, payback is a bitch. Sprint went to town on AT&T and made an enemy. Now AT&T is returning the favor. And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.
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vpoko
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join:2003-07-03
Boston, MA
reply to battleop
One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.

chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to mogamer
att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.

chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.

I disagree. Huawei are Chinese known for many counterfeits. Japanese are an old good known trading partner known for some quality brands like Sony or Sharp.


FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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reply to vpoko
said by vpoko:

One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.

It may. And this could be the group that kills it because Softbank is a foreign company that would own 70% of Sprint - just like it killed Huawei. And telecom is considered a national security industry.:
»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···-US.aspx

CFIUS is an inter-agency committee authorized to review transactions that could result in control of a U.S. business by a foreign person (“covered transactions”), in order to determine the effect of such transactions on the national security of the United States.

Who are on CFIUS committee:
»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···ers.aspx
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chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Yes, payback is a bitch.

Ahh sweet revenge. Before you embark upon journey of revenge, dig two graves. What would u do if your former "friend" of yours, leveraged against you using his father as a free lawyer to shut you up. Well there is a way to payback without involving them at all.


myosh

join:2001-05-03
Cupertino, CA
reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

said by vpoko:

One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.

It may. And this could be the group that kills it because Softbank is a foreign company that would own 70% of Sprint - just like it killed Huawei. And telecom is considered a national security industry.:
»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···-US.aspx

Huawei is Chinese-owned. SoftBank is Japanese. Big difference since the US is on good relations with Japan. China... not so much.


myosh

join:2001-05-03
Cupertino, CA

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reply to chgo_man99
said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.

But what mogamer said is true. AT&T wanted to eliminate a competitor in the U.S. market in buying T-Mobile. SoftBank does not operate in the U.S. so it's investment doesn't eliminate a competitor but instead is strengthening Sprint. While I understand why AT&T doesn't like it, as consumers we should be loving this deal.

chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
San Jose, CA
true, but it still does not make att BS because it sought to eliminate competitor. Thats what business is about. Though of course, the deal att sought was unfair for us as customers.

rblizz

join:2001-12-16
North Richland Hills, TX
reply to chgo_man99
said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

Oh, they're free to whine, but there's no law against a competitor getting stronger -- and they know it. There are, however, anti-trust laws that keep one competitor from eliminating a viable competitor.

AT&T's attempt at FUD here will most likely be unsuccessful as it is obviously transparent and self-serving.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to chgo_man99
True. ATT has been BS a long time.

mogamer

join:2011-04-20
Royal Oak, MI
reply to chgo_man99
said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.

Their press release was full of bs.


SteelerRaw

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reply to FFH5
Highly doubtful. The United States' relationship with Japan is significantly better than their relationship with China. Simply put, SoftBank is no Huawei.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

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reply to rblizz
It shouldn't be successful but don't underestimate the ability of ATT's lobby machine to turn SoftBank into Huawei. Although Americans probably trust Japan more than China, it wasn't that long ago that Japan was where China is today. Unlike the mostly dead generation of folks who still have emotions regarding Pearl Harbor, there are lots of still-living and voting constituents that lost jobs to the Japanese complete takeover of the electronics industry and decimation of the auto industry. It might not take much to raise the temperature of those smoldering embers. It may not matter since this will likely play out after the election. Regardless of what happens, few will remember in two years.

Eek2121

join:2002-10-12
Newton, NJ
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reply to myosh
Yep, and if Sprint plays their cards right, they could become a formidable competitor. Can you imagine if Sprint actually had the capital to build out their network and compete properly? Right now everyone I talk to hates Sprint due to their lousy coverage. Sprint could easily fix that.


Subaru
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Greenwich, CT
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reply to mogamer
said by mogamer:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Sure they can cry, but they're full of BS. ATT buying T-Mobile would have eliminated a competitor. The Japanese buying Sprint actually stregthens one. Big difference there.

This!
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reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Yes, payback is a bitch. Sprint went to town on AT&T and made an enemy. Now AT&T is returning the favor. And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.

Thanks for the laugh.

MaynardKrebs
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reply to SteelerRaw
said by SteelerRaw :

Highly doubtful. The United States' relationship with Japan is significantly better than their relationship with China. Simply put, SoftBank is no Huawei.

The US sold Aegis systems to Japan.
The US would NEVER in 10^6 years sell Aegis systems to China.


Jim Kirk
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join:2005-12-09
Westerville, OH
reply to FFH5
said by FFH5:

And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.

I think you got your Asians mixed up there Tommy.


KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
reply to FFH5
AT&T has always hated any of the companies that weren't AT&T.


SrsBsns

join:2001-08-30
Oklahoma City, OK
reply to chgo_man99
said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.

The problem with AT&T is they don't want to be the best wireless company. They want to be the only wireless company.
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FFH5
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Tavistock NJ
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reply to ydoucare

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

said by ydoucare:

said by FFH5:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Yes, payback is a bitch. Sprint went to town on AT&T and made an enemy. Now AT&T is returning the favor. And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.

Thanks for the laugh.

And what is it that tickled your funny bone? That the US may try to prevent a foreign firm from taking control of a US firm in the telecom sector?
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meowmeow

join:2003-07-26
Helena, MT
reply to mogamer
"The Japanese" - we're not talking a government, we're talking a company. And SoftBank is a terrible one. It's not NTT DoCoMo we're talking here. It's Japan's poor coverage, low-budget, low-speed, constantly congested carrier. Just like Sprint, LOL.

wingrider01

join:2006-07-25
Saint Louis, MO
reply to mogamer
and moved more taxable infrastructure outside the US borders, that in itself is a major issue