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Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:01:26 EDT

wingrider01 posted : and moved more taxable infrastructure outside the US borders, that in itself is a major issue

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Fri, 19 Oct 2012 03:35:26 EDT

Markie posted : "The Japanese" - we're not talking a government, we're talking a company. And SoftBank is a terrible one. It's not NTT DoCoMo we're talking here. It's Japan's poor coverage, low-budget, low-speed, constantly congested carrier. Just like Sprint, LOL.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:25:28 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by ydoucare:

said by Linklist:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Yes, payback is a bitch. Sprint went to town on AT&T and made an enemy. Now AT&T is returning the favor. And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.

Thanks for the laugh.

And what is it that tickled your funny bone? That the US may try to prevent a foreign firm from taking control of a US firm in the telecom sector?
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Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:56:22 EDT

SrsBsns posted :

said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.

The problem with AT&T is they don't want to be the best wireless company. They want to be the only wireless company.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:29:46 EDT

KrK posted : AT&T has always hated any of the companies that weren't AT&T.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:05:00 EDT

Jim Kirk posted :

said by Linklist:

And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.

I think you got your Asians mixed up there Tommy.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:31:47 EDT

MaynardKrebs posted :

said by SteelerRaw :

Highly doubtful. The United States' relationship with Japan is significantly better than their relationship with China. Simply put, SoftBank is no Huawei.

The US sold Aegis systems to Japan.
The US would NEVER in 10^6 years sell Aegis systems to China.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:34:36 EDT

ydoucare posted :

said by Linklist:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Thanks for the laugh.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:38:50 EDT

Subaru posted :

said by mogamer:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Sure they can cry, but they're full of BS. ATT buying T-Mobile would have eliminated a competitor. The Japanese buying Sprint actually stregthens one. Big difference there.

This!
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Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:32:21 EDT

Eek2121 posted : Yep, and if Sprint plays their cards right, they could become a formidable competitor. Can you imagine if Sprint actually had the capital to build out their network and compete properly? Right now everyone I talk to hates Sprint due to their lousy coverage. Sprint could easily fix that.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:29:51 EDT

rradina posted : It shouldn't be successful but don't underestimate the ability of ATT's lobby machine to turn SoftBank into Huawei. Although Americans probably trust Japan more than China, it wasn't that long ago that Japan was where China is today. Unlike the mostly dead generation of folks who still have emotions regarding Pearl Harbor, there are lots of still-living and voting constituents that lost jobs to the Japanese complete takeover of the electronics industry and decimation of the auto industry. It might not take much to raise the temperature of those smoldering embers. It may not matter since this will likely play out after the election. Regardless of what happens, few will remember in two years.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:26:36 EDT

anon posted : Highly doubtful. The United States' relationship with Japan is significantly better than their relationship with China. Simply put, SoftBank is no Huawei.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:21:15 EDT

mogamer posted :

said by chgo_man99:

Their press release was full of bs.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:17:06 EDT

rradina posted : True. ATT has been BS a long time.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:12:48 EDT

rblizz posted :

said by chgo_man99:

att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

Oh, they're free to whine, but there's no law against a competitor getting stronger -- and they know it. There are, however, anti-trust laws that keep one competitor from eliminating a viable competitor.

AT&T's attempt at FUD here will most likely be unsuccessful as it is obviously transparent and self-serving.

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Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:35:49 EDT

chgo_man99 posted : true, but it still does not make att BS because it sought to eliminate competitor. Thats what business is about. Though of course, the deal att sought was unfair for us as customers.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:06:09 EDT

myosh posted :

said by chgo_man99:

But what mogamer said is true. AT&T wanted to eliminate a competitor in the U.S. market in buying T-Mobile. SoftBank does not operate in the U.S. so it's investment doesn't eliminate a competitor but instead is strengthening Sprint. While I understand why AT&T doesn't like it, as consumers we should be loving this deal.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:00:38 EDT

myosh posted :

said by Linklist:

said by vpoko:

One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.

It may. And this could be the group that kills it because Softbank is a foreign company that would own 70% of Sprint - just like it killed Huawei. And telecom is considered a national security industry.:
»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···-US.aspx

Huawei is Chinese-owned. SoftBank is Japanese. Big difference since the US is on good relations with Japan. China... not so much.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 14:00:00 EDT

chgo_man99 posted :

said by Linklist:

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Yes, payback is a bitch.

Ahh sweet revenge. Before you embark upon journey of revenge, dig two graves. What would u do if your former "friend" of yours, leveraged against you using his father as a free lawyer to shut you up. Well there is a way to payback without involving them at all.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:50:54 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by vpoko:

One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.

CFIUS is an inter-agency committee authorized to review transactions that could result in control of a U.S. business by a foreign person (“covered transactions”), in order to determine the effect of such transactions on the national security of the United States.

Who are on CFIUS committee:
»www.treasury.gov/resource-center···ers.aspx
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Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:43:49 EDT

chgo_man99 posted :

said by Linklist:

And if the US legislators hate the idea of Huawei doing business in the US, they may be persuaded to hate the idea of Softbank moving in.

I disagree. Huawei are Chinese known for many counterfeits. Japanese are an old good known trading partner known for some quality brands like Sony or Sharp.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:37:50 EDT

chgo_man99 posted : att is business, about making money, not seeing their competitors stronger, how that makes them full of bs?

now if you said, because they eliminated $10 1000 text plan due to lack of competition then I agree.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:37:19 EDT

vpoko posted : One big difference: Sprint's whining worked, AT&T's won't.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:27:51 EDT

Linklist posted :

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Re: I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:20:33 EDT

mogamer posted :

said by battleop:

If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.

Sure they can cry, but they're full of BS. ATT buying T-Mobile would have eliminated a competitor. The Japanese buying Sprint actually stregthens one. Big difference there.

I hate AT&T like everyone else but....

Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:09:19 EDT

battleop posted : If Sprint can cry about AT&T buying T-Mobile then AT&T certainly has a right to cry about SoftBank buying Sprint.
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