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Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4
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Verizon as a WISP

With their "HomeFusion" Verizon is now a WISP. Speeds are great but cost and caps suck ... but they are now a competitor in fixed wireless. See them as a challenge?
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WHT

join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5

As long as no one realizes they are now a fixed wireless operator and continue the liberties allowed to mobile wireless in the FCC.s neutrality law.


wirelessdog

join:2008-07-15
Queen Anne, MD
kudos:1

Too early to tell. Around here, if you run three speed tests back to back the speeds lock down to 4megs too.


ctech99

join:2010-02-16
Reviews:
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reply to Jim_in_VA
A small challenge. Probably loose a few customers to them, but shouldn't make a huge dent around here, I hope. Coverage is so spotty with them already.

I hope that no caps, better pricing plans, better service, and a live human for local support will win over VZW. Just gotta keep on your toes and stay current with speeds.


WHT

join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5

reply to wirelessdog

said by wirelessdog:

Too early to tell. Around here, if you run three speed tests back to back the speeds lock down to 4megs too.

Sounds like throttling to me.

The point is, Verizon will operate their fixed wireless product under the FCC rules reserved for mobile wireless operators with extensive liberties of caps, throttling, web access limitations.

gunther_01
Premium
join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL

reply to Jim_in_VA
I see them as a small threat. Isn't that product still under a heavy usage limit? With very high per gig fees after the fact?
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WHT

join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5

$60 for 10 GB
$90 for 20 GB
$120 for 30 GB

$10 per 1 GB over you plan cap.


gunther_01
Premium
join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL

reply to Jim_in_VA
Yeah,
That's a rip off. Are they trying to compete with satellite and that's it? Or are people that stupid?
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WHT

join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5

Verizon admits it's not a replacement for wired broadband, rather like satellite where nothing else works. WISPs can make a killing.


staregazer

join:2006-12-15
Reviews:
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reply to Jim_in_VA
AT&T is looking at doing the same thing soon. Before long all the wireless carriers will offer it and probably put a dent on existing and new customers. Heck, we had more people signing up for satellite broadband before these new faster services came on board than our wisp even though we advertised and told them the benefits. Sometimes it is hard to beat name recognition. Once they go with satellite they have money tied up in it and under contract even if they wanted to switch to us after they got it and they don't know how great our service was compared to it.


gunther_01
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join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL

reply to Jim_in_VA
WHT is right though. They will get CAF funding to build it. Then run it as a WISP without the regulations a WISP has to follow for Net neutrality, because it's not a Fixed point network. But rather a cellular network. Unless they some how divey up their IPs and have separate management policies for each "division".

It's a pretty neat racket really
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Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4
Reviews:
·Northern Neck Wi..

regarding "Net Neutrality" it appears to be a cloudy regulation that offers many loopholes to remedy network congestion and security.

reference: »www.telecommediatechlaw.com/broa···nternet/
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gunther_01
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join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL

reply to Jim_in_VA
It's been cloudy since day one. But there are more regs on WISPs and landlines, than cellular to begin with.

We got lumped in to the fixed/landline category, while cellular has less restrictive definitions of bandwidth management techniques.
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Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4
Reviews:
·Northern Neck Wi..

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not sure why this regulation is a problem for a WISP. You can let the customer access any website (Netflix, Hulu) they want. You are not restricting them at all to what is accessed.. BUT ... there is a limit to how much data can be consumed with the plan you offer. That is controlling network congestion and does not violate the rule. IMO
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WHT

join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5

reply to gunther_01

said by gunther_01:

WHT is right though. They will get CAF funding to build it. Then run it as a WISP without the regulations a WISP has to follow for Net neutrality, because it's not a Fixed point network.

It still uses fixed (location) clients, just like.a WISP.

gunther_01
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join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL

reply to Jim_in_VA
Bandwidth regulation is not a violation of Net neutrality. QOS policies that dictate which applications goes first is, or can be, if construed to interfere with an application, or "block" it.

The idea is neutral policies. It's when you pick or choose what has priority it's an issue. And HAS to be listed on your website to be in compliance among other things.

I'm sure you know some people utilize throttling, or QOS to regulate usage based on GB. That has to be listed in your NN disclosure to your customers. ESPECIALLY if it targets an application specifically. Because you are no longer being "neutral" about your throttling policy.

Even if you do nothing more that regulate maximum speeds, you have to disclose that to my knowledge as part of the "rules"
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gunther_01
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join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL

reply to WHT

said by WHT:

said by gunther_01:

WHT is right though. They will get CAF funding to build it. Then run it as a WISP without the regulations a WISP has to follow for Net neutrality, because it's not a Fixed point network.

It still uses fixed (location) clients, just like.a WISP.

I know that. But I bet they will claim it to be a non-fixed "network" because it runs off of the cellular tower that has a majority of mobile clients. Plus the client can move the device within their home, or take it with them on the road.
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Jim_in_VA

join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4

not with HomeFusion. It has a fixed antenna, connected to a router, and is not mobile
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tigerpaw509

join:2011-01-19

reply to Jim_in_VA
Its a cell phone minus the phone.I avg 50gig a month so
this wouldnt be for the average user.


gunther_01
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join:2004-03-29
Saybrook, IL

reply to Jim_in_VA

said by Jim_in_VA:

not with HomeFusion. It has a fixed antenna, connected to a router, and is not mobile

Ah, my bad. Thought it was another mobile device type of system. I'm sure they will try and figure something out to try and avoid "something" though.
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