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SRF26

join:2000-04-03
Jamaica, NY
reply to batsona

Re: Will Verizon shut down copper phone accounts?

There is no doubt fiber is the wave of the future, but it isn't going to replace the current copper infrastructure in urban areas like NYC for many years to come. IMO, fiber will only be run to replace copper as a last resort. It might be a cynical, but Verizon isn't going to run fiber (spend money) unless they are forced to do it.

Regards...JL


tnsprin

join:2003-07-23
Bradenton, FL
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

said by SRF26:

There is no doubt fiber is the wave of the future, but it isn't going to replace the current copper infrastructure in urban areas like NYC for many years to come. IMO, fiber will only be run to replace copper as a last resort. It might be a cynical, but Verizon isn't going to run fiber (spend money) unless they are forced to do it.

Regards...JL

Well in areas of NYC hit hard by Sandy, they are making the move. They don't want to go to the expense of replacing all that damaged copper with more copper.


EddieBell

@optonline.net

When the storm hit, Verizon failed to activate their generators in the Long Beach NY central office. The result was the depressurizing of all the underground copper. After the storm, 96% of it had failed.

Verizon's answer to the problem is to make no effort to restore the copper customers. When you finally make contact with them, usually through the New York Public Service Commission, you are told they are abandoning all copper in Long Beach.

Then you are offered Fios at a higher rate. It's only after the intervention of the State PSC will you be offered your existing rate with fiber delivery.

So you can add Long Beach (General 1) to the list of CO's where copper has been abandoned.



nycdave
Premium,MVM
join:1999-11-16
Melville, NY
kudos:14

No, the Long Beach CO flooded out on the first floor - so the backup generating plant was under water. Kind of hard to run a backup generator when it is flooded...



EddieBell

@optonline.net

I thought their generators would be on the first floor. I suppose the batteries flooded too? What about the trailer mounted generator that was brought in before the flood?

Do you have some first hand knowledge about these events? It would be nice to know what really happened. This CO is almost 90 years old and never had a failure that was anything like this.

Guess I have to say goodbye to copper.

Eddie


McBane

join:2008-08-22
Plano, TX

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Considering this was the biggest storm surge the east coast has seen in almost 90 years that would be the reason, no?

It's not like they put backup generators on stilts (Maybe they should though in hurricane/tsunami prone areas. After all, even the backup generators for the Fukushima Nuclear reactors cooling systems even got flooded out the same way).

Generators don't work underwater, and 15 feet covers 1st floor and trailer mounted. Electrical equipment doesn't work submerged in water, unless it's meant to of course.



EddieBell

@optonline.net

The Long Beach Central Office got zero to six inches of water on parts of its first floor. Most of the place didn't get any. The place is up two steps and the street got less than a foot at that location. Certainly the trailer generator didn't get any water. I know every employee left the CO during the storm, which is quite unusual. Typical of morale issues these days. Does anyone have any real information, other than incorrect guesses about the water height?