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blasher

join:2008-01-10
Valencia, CA
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·Time Warner Cable

[TWC] Time Warner Whole House DVR

I am moving soon and am getting the TW WHDVR setup. Because I occasionally record more than two channels, I am getting two DVR's and a playback box. Internet (30/5)will also be connected.

My question is how much wiring will be needed. I plan on letting the installer put all the wiring in. There are 3 TV's (2 HD, 1 SD), 2 Blu-Ray players (hard-wired, no built-in wi-fi capability), two wired desktop computers (different rooms), and assorted iPads and iPhones. The Blu-Ray players will be located with the HD sets.

The TW website does not show any sort of wiring diagrams. Can someone on this forum draw out a diagram showing how this may be connected? I am willing to get wi-fi dongles if needed, although I would prefer being hardwired.


DrDrew
That others may surf
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join:2009-01-28
SoCal
kudos:16
TWC will only wire the boxes and modem. Then connect them to their respective TVs and computer.

Networking the rest is up to you

blasher

join:2008-01-10
Valencia, CA
Will they need anything more than an RG6(?) cable to each box?


DrDrew
That others may surf
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join:2009-01-28
SoCal
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Not besides the cable needed to connect to the tv. They won't run Ethernet beyond the 6 foot patch cable that comes with the modem.


rv65
Premium
join:2008-08-02
USA!!!!
kudos:1
reply to blasher
DrDrew forgot to point out that WHDVR requires a MoCA POE filter. This is installed at the Cable feed outside or inside your house, as it it blocks the MoCA signal from coming back into the plant. This is why WHDVR requires professional installation.

tasmithe

join:2002-09-16
Graham, NC
The DVRs they put in don't have much space.....seems to fill up fast......


chamberc
Premium
join:2008-08-05
Irving, TX
reply to blasher
And don't forget you can't pause live TV or record more than 2 shows at a time from the slave units.

For that reason alone, we still have 3 stand alone DVR's.

Happydude32
Premium
join:2005-07-16
kudos:1
reply to tasmithe
said by tasmithe:

The DVRs they put in don't have much space.....seems to fill up fast......

Time Warner's whole house DVRs have 500 GB hard drives in them. Depending how much and what you record, you should have no problem not running out of space.
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tasmithe

join:2002-09-16
Graham, NC
Each one has 500? Sometimes when I record a normal HD movie when I delete it, it says it dropped 30% of full off the total. Something seems mixed up.


Crapigator

@rr.com
said by tasmithe:

Each one has 500? Sometimes when I record a normal HD movie when I delete it, it says it dropped 30% of full off the total. Something seems mixed up.

That's the garbage software they use. Just another Navigator glitch.

Dampier
Phillip M Dampier

join:2003-03-23
Rochester, NY
Whole House DVR for me has been a mixed bag. When the master DVR is recording, especially when both tuners are recording, slave units are extremely sluggish responding to FF/Rew commands and often craps out.

Most likely this is an issue with the processor power on the master unit, which simply doesn't do very well keeping up.


bradenmcg

join:2000-10-26
Cleveland, OH
reply to blasher
OP, as others have stated - the boxes will just use co-ax, nothing else, even with whole-home. They talk to each other via MoCA on top of the co-ax.

TW won't touch your Blu-Ray players or desktops in separate rooms. I'd call an electrician, home theater wiring contractor (it's low voltage so you don't technically need an electrician), or buy the tools and run the cable yourself if you want to be cheap.

Cheap is relative though, because decent tools are going to cost a fair amount, and experienced contractors are going to be better at fishing wire than you will be. I wired my own place (and bought the tools), but I'm an IT guy and already know how to terminate Cat5e.

If you run wire, run way more than you think you need, or at least have them use conduit so you can add more later. (I'm kicking myself for not using conduit because there are a few spots I want more wire than I originally ran.) I would run at LEAST 2 ethernet to each location, preferably 3 or 4 in areas with a TV / etc (game systems, Roku, all that stuff uses ethernet). You can always drop in a little switch if you run out of ports, but then you have another wall wart to deal with and the potential for bandwidth starvation if you are trying to do something really network-heavy in the house (this is unlikely if you're just gaming / streaming internet video though).

For coax, I'd do at least 2 runs of that as well. Cable only uses one, and DirecTV is now down to single-wire (with SWiM), but I believe Dish may still require a pair in some instances. It's also cleaner if you decide you want two DVRs in one location - two home-runs instead of a split behind the TV.

Also, don't spend extra money for CAT6. CAT5e is sufficient for gigabit ethernet. CAT6 gains you nothing and is harder to work with and more expensive. If you really want to be ready for 10Gb networking in the house, you want CAT6A (augmented) or CAT7, both of which are very pricy and a pain to terminate. Normal CAT6 doesn't have enough alien crosstalk rejection to run 10Gb more than about 50-55 meters, while C6A or C7 are both good for the full 100 meter Ethernet spec.

Happydude32
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join:2005-07-16
kudos:1
quote:
TW won't touch your Blu-Ray players or desktops in separate rooms. I'd call an electrician, home theater wiring contractor (it's low voltage so you don't technically need an electrician), or buy the tools and run the cable yourself if you want to be cheap
With Signature Home they will. I believe a tech will stay up to four hours to do an install plus set up all of your other gear, including wireless networking. When I signed up for Signature Home, the CSR asked me for a list of all the equipment that I had, both computer related and TV related. When the tech got here he opened up his Toughbook and had everything diagramed out with the information that I provided to the CSR over the phone…But I already had everything wired, all I basically needed the installer to do was replace my modem with a D3 Modem and replace the two regular DVRs with the whole house DVRs and attach the MOCA filers. They obviously won’t supply you with all the cabling you need, but they will hook everything up.
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For the future of our nation, we must unite and vote out the terrorist known as Hussein Obama. Come November 6 2012 we must remove the socialist pig out of office and get our country back on the RIGHT track.


Lizziebeth

@rr.com
reply to blasher
The whole house boxes will be wired in a network all connected to one splitter to talk bi-directionally with each other. this splitter s the HUB for the system

One thing to be prepared for is additional charges for each DVR, for each rental, for every single thing they can get to you with.

In Rochester NY area the charges are ridiculous. We have 4 wholehouse because you can not pause live tv on a client and that was what we had to have to replace they DISH system we had. $60 a month higher.

Plus we are continually having issues with the dvr if it gets more than 40% full with continual freezing or rebooting necessary and TWC can't find an issue that they can say is to blame.