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Kearnstd
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Re: Professional gaming

the biggest thing for physical sports is that they are also perfect for getting ratings from the lowest common denominator.

I should of course note that the NCAA is at least attempting to change rules so that the players are no longer as dumb as the typical beer sucking sports fan. (ie wanting the players to actually have real majors and not bullshit ones, Pretty much the era of basket weaving is over. And any smart athlete honestly should take business courses and marketing courses. If they go pro they are product, And if they do not know business and marketing the sponsors will take them over a barrel just like the RIAA does new bands.)
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Re: Professional gaming

said by Savious Zero:

The Things coming out party.

WOW. This thread is awesome.


Deft
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"e-sports" was dead when they tried to put Counter Strike on Direct TV... and CPL screwed all the winners over... i believe 2002-2005 is when esports died.. no MMO or RPG will regain what a FPS did back then.

Take that epeen and put it where the sun doesnt shine while wearing man tights.


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Savious Zero
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I think Riot did a great job with their broadcast. If they can continue to hype the game, than perhaps there is a future for all games?
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said by I AM:

WOW. This thread is awesome.

I'd go so far as to say epic.
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said by Kearnstd:

the biggest thing for physical sports is that they are also perfect for getting ratings from the lowest common denominator.

I should of course note that the NCAA is at least attempting to change rules so that the players are no longer as dumb as the typical beer sucking sports fan. (ie wanting the players to actually have real majors and not bullshit ones, Pretty much the era of basket weaving is over. And any smart athlete honestly should take business courses and marketing courses. If they go pro they are product, And if they do not know business and marketing the sponsors will take them over a barrel just like the RIAA does new bands.)

There is much anger in you.
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I think you're not seeing how vastly more popular pro sports is compared to video games.


Savious Zero
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They are; however, the younger generations may change that.


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Sports is still vastly more popular among the younger generation. How many inner city children or children who come from very "poor" families have a gaming pc or a gaming console? Its cheapier and easier for them to pick up a ball and play sports.


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said by I AM:

Sports is still vastly more popular among the younger generation. How many inner city children or children who come from very "poor" families have a gaming pc or a gaming console? Its cheapier and easier for them to pick up a ball and play sports.

Indeed, but this first "pick-up" is what ingrains the interest to then be indoctrinated into a membership of a team.

said by Savious Zero:

They are; however, the younger generations may change that.

Please enlighten how an industry based on fanatical behavior towards an entity without any entities to be fanatical about is suddenly plausible due to age and current year on the calendar???

Sports is worth billions of dollars because of rooting for a "club" which the fanatics have membership into, but can not enjoy themselves because the bar of entry is to high. This fanatical membership is given at birth, to many. Ask anyone in Dallas what NFL team is best, or Pittsburgh, or travel to San Francisco and ask what MLB team is "number 1". Esports has fanatics that enjoy a game that the bar of entry has BEEN CLEARED, so they can do it on their own, and have no membership into a "club" to be fanatical for.

Most people watch after they confirm they can not do. People who can do usually don't waste time watching others do. Esports is voyeurism, sports is fanatical spectatorship. I'm lost what age does to change this.
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If it becomes professional sign me up!

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speaking of sports.... They might want to start televising games of NHL 2K12, because the real thing aint happening this year.
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Deo85

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So it seems the general consensuses is this so fare in this thread:

Real life sports
- Has to much money backing it to fail

- Players are used as idols to faun over so that one can imagine getting hot sex with woman (look at the adds during a game and cut scenes towards the cheer leaders to confirm this check)

- cheaper to participate in locally and national a "club" to be a part of and lets face it ppl like being a part of something we are a herd animal by nature

- Been around a vary long time look back to gladiators during the Roman times its about being physical :P

eSports
- New generation will dictate the future so this can still happen as the trend of gamers only increase as the years go by

- Coverage and Sponsor backing is only growing as time goes on

- Has some established venues all ready like RTS / FPS and lets face it your a big company that wants a fat margarine make a competitive "sport" portion in your game and you will suck ppl in that like team work and competition now host a even to have teams compete and ppl will pay into it Cha-Ching.... Blizzcon + wow arena matches

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I don't think real life sports will ever go away but I do believe that eSports will continue to grow to maybe some day rival real sports its just a evolution of time and what ppl spend there time doing. Both have a "club" feel... And as computers get to be more dirt cheep and network info structure continues to grow more and more people are getting to play video games in poverty areas after all video games are passing movies as a favored past time in the US. Its all just a matter of time my friends.


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What we might also be missing is that video games or games played by the mind has been around as long as physical games as well. Games such as checkers, chess and other board games has been around a very long time but it's still not as popular as physical games.


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Physical games are easier to understand.

a chess grandmaster? Maybe about 10 people in the world understand what's going on at the actual time.

The other 99% of chess players even, have to analyze that shit for weeks aftewards.

Football? he got hit... analysis done


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said by TheThing:

Football? he got hit... analysis done

He got hit. Something homo hom homo. Done.


TheThing

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anyone else getting aroused over here? is it just me?


Deo85

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said by TheThing:

Football? he got hit... analysis done

You sir win the internet :P


Meeps

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I don't see this happening for a looong time, if at all.

Even within the gaming community, there is simply too many casual gamers who would probably watch sports over professional gamers play.

Me personally, I would love for there to be gaming on TV. But honestly, I don't watch much TV as it is, and I assume a lot of professional gamers don't either. Simply because TV and gaming are competitors, you don't really do both at the same time, you do one or the other. Whereas with sports, people don't really need to play sports to watch it and know what is going on (somewhat, anyways).

Dunno if that made sense, but there you go.


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I agree I rather play a game than to watch others play it. But as much as I love basketball I know I'll never play in the NBA so I cheer for my favorite team and watch them on TV.


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Hello everyone, a pool and golf player here.. Everyday there are new people/faces coming into the lobby of virtual pool 3 (VP3) lobby in tunngle. Its a classic, strategy game but is still part of a sport, we do many sorts of game types like cowboy, honolulu, 1 cushion billiards, etc. but the main biggest ones we play (as all together in a group) 10 ball, 9 ball, rotation, and fifteen ball. The game has some very interesting effects such as when you make a wrong aim and ball goes flying off the table. We do our best to keep the balls on the table as much as we can but its pretty tough when the game's speed dial in settings is on low and then its on high the very next minute.Mainly my friend and myself play everyday but at times we're busy (out and about) but when its been awhile since we all last had played then its a heck of a blast with a ton of fun.

We play tournaments and setup multiple different rooms, we even keep track of our scores day-by-day. We even setup our very own website here: »www.altidesign.nl/vp3/
But we only put our bowlliards scores into the site. Bowlliards is a very neat game and full of fun more then the rest. Cribbage is one of my favorite ones, you have to pot a certain ball that is the opposite kind of, like this: yellow- green, blue- orange, red- purple, and brown- black. Different rules apply to all different games and what type of situation you are in but its certainly worth it for the fun.

One thing I like about this game is there is no such thing as FPS or RPG in the game, its all plan strategy however there is a such thing as misshappen(s). The balls are the physics in the game not the surroundings in the background, the background of each place/room is completely different (making it more comfortable to play in) also you can play career mode and earn a bunch of money and buy a great looking pool cue and add to you cue case, all pool cue sticks do the same, there is no difference in speed nor smoothness in speed or direction. The main thing you need to know about VP3 is that it has a ton of bugs and could cause problems while playing such as crashing, change in layout after breaking, save files can be bugged very easily at times but not too worry for this only happens once in a great while so no need to panic and if you have to restart all over again, no worries, just remember you get better the more you play and experience all the features that VP3 has to offer.

There's another pool game that we all play together called Billard Kings 2, its way better than VP3 that some will notice however you need the english file instaled in the dir. file unless you know Russian. I use to really like this game but now days its more of a side game cause the controlling is completely different than in VP3, in VP3 you push your mouse forward to make your move, while in BK2, you pull back mouse (adjusts speed of cue) and then press LMB to make your move. We play BK2 in VP3 tunngle lobby as well since there is no BK2 lobby.

I don't think I seen very many bugs (if any at all) in BK2, the game is pretty easy going but the crashes are kind of worse off and on compared to VP3. There is no cue case but you can still pick from a few different cue's (different colors) and there are only 3 rooms, 3 different table types. You can dress your matches up as you want so it will suite you. The physic's are wild and courageous so a lot of fun there. When playing alone you can turn training mode on and aim at any ball and it will show you what all balls get hit and what exactly happens such as two balls will get potted if you aim here or if you hit this ball it will then hit this ball making it pot into the top right ball, its very simple it shows a line path from your cue ball to where your aiming and if you adjust your aiming just right to where it pots a ball, a red line/path will appear.

What makes both of these two types of games similar is most of the controls are the same however using them have a different approach to you and only half of both have same game types. In all rooms of both, there is a background and if you want, you can disable this in the options menu and don't worry this only gets turned off for yourself alone so the other player(s) do not see you disabling background.

Here's my ratting on both together:
Gaming experience:8
GFX:4
fun:7

Also I wanna add on that we also play in the VP2 lobby of tunngle, just a reminder.
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