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vue666
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reply to TLS2000

Re: Gasoline Prices Below 99 Cents/Litre By Christmas

said by TLS2000:

Incorrect. The 3800 is a 90 degree v6. The 3.1, 3.4, 3.5 and 3.9 are all 60 degree v6's.

The new Camaro uses a 3.6...it produces 300+ hp and gets decent mileage according to EPA figures...

quote:
»usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/ca···ormance/

The base 2013 Camaro has a 3.6-liter V6 engine that produces 323 horsepower at 6,800 rpm and 278 pound-feet of torque at 4,800 rpm. A six-speed manual transmission is standard on the base 1LS model, while a six-speed automatic is available on 2LS and higher trims. The EPA reports that the 2013 Camaro gets up to 19/30 mpg city/highway, which is about average for a muscle car, but less than rivals like the Mazda Miata and Subaru BRZ.

There is also the 4.3 litre which is like a 350ci with the last two cylinders removed. I believe it is mostly used in rwd cars and trucks...


TLS2000
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True, but the 3.6 is what they call a high feature engine. It is physically bigger than the 3.9 I have due to it's overhead cam design.

It would have been nice if they'd used the 3.6 with my car in 2006, but they waited until 2007 to start doing so.
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Gone
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Yeah, those HFEs are built in St. Catharines and Flint. When someone calls from one of the telephones the call display actually says HFE V6 LINE as the name, which I always found rather amusing.



Guspaz
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reply to Xstar_Lumini

Gas prices still 134 cents per litre. Still zero indication of the magical dramatic drop.
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Mike2009

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Ottawa, ON
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$1.16 in Ottawa.



JCohen
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Nepean, ON
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reply to Xstar_Lumini

Currently $1.20 for regular and $1.32 for premium in Waterloo.

»www.ontariogasprices.com/
$0.94 in Caledonia.



vue666
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Regular gas in HRM $1.25
»www.halifaxgasprices.com/index.aspx?fuel=A

Diesel $1.34
»www.halifaxgasprices.com/index.aspx?fuel=D



nitzguy
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Sudbury, ON
reply to Gone

said by Gone:

Yeah, those HFEs are built in St. Catharines and Flint. When someone calls from one of the telephones the call display actually says HFE V6 LINE as the name, which I always found rather amusing.

I'm jealous of you sometimes Gone, you live a life I only dream about....I never get cool calls from HFE V6 LINE....only wrong numbers from the same person over and over and over again...and on the call display it definitely doesn't say HFE V6 LINE....I just get ones that say "ONT LOTTERY"....but that's not too exciting.....because I know I'm not winning the lottery...lol...I know that's completely OT for this topic, but to bring it back on topic...

Gas prices down to 124.9 here in the Nickel City...who knows...maybe it will hit 99.9 sometime before Xmas...but it'll have to go down at about 4c/week for that to happen here....and it hasn't been going down at that pace at this point, more like 2c/week...so maybe 115 or so by xmas...

Also, nitzguy is getting a car that's a bit better on gas than his Freestyle....so hopefully that'll help save me some more at the pump.


FaxCap

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Surrey, BC
reply to Xstar_Lumini

Filled up in Abbotsford, BC....111.9

FaxCap



Gone
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reply to nitzguy

said by nitzguy:

I'm jealous of you sometimes Gone, you live a life I only dream about....I never get cool calls from HFE V6 LINE

When you live in St. Catharines at some point everyone in the city is bound to get a call from the HFE V6 Line


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reply to JCohen

said by JCohen:

»www.ontariogasprices.com/
$0.94 in Caledonia.

On the reserve


vue666
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reply to dirtyjeffer

said by dirtyjeffer:

said by peterboro:

I believe he had a Japanese bike of moderate CCs so a moped was not much of a step down.



some of my bikes looked like this:
[att=1]
[att=2]
[att=3]
[att=4]

if i was going to buy a bike again, i would be very tempted by this one (Triumph Street Triple):
[att=5]

Gee Hoss you always came across as someone who was more comfortable with a hammer then a calculator...


twizlar
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reply to Xstar_Lumini

Passed 5 stations on the way to work this morning. Both Pioneer stations were 113.9, both esso stations were 119.9 and the husky was 117.9
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elwoodblues
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reply to I_H8_Spam

In my travels I saw gas at $1.35/ltr at Eglinton and bermondsey.

Must be that shortage in NY Affecting the full gas tanks here



Mike2009

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Ottawa, ON
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$1.25 in Ottawa.



Hydraglass
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Kingston, ON
reply to Xstar_Lumini

$1.07 9/10 per L in Brockville tonight. Filled up on the way home. 5c/L off with my Petro rewards card, 2c/L off using my CIBC petro master card... gas was $1.00 9/10 /L after that... first time in 3 years I've bought gas at $1/L.



Juggernaut
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reply to Xstar_Lumini

It's been $1.199 here for a few days now. But, it's $.10 lower in Kamloops. Gotta love the 'Valley'.
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I watched gas go from $1.189 to $1.229 Saturday night, and $1.229 to $1.249 Sunday night, but managed to find a station that was still at $1.179 Sunday and filled up there. It's now between $1.249 (downtown) and $1.229 (south end of Barrhaven).
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digitalfutur
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reply to dirtyjeffer

Sticks are not only not cool, they're not as fast as an automatic and its clutch-less iterations, and use more fuel compared to a 7-9 speed auto or a CVT.

With over 95% penetration now, automatics will soon be close to 100% on consumer vehicles, thanks to computerization and more stringent fuel economy standards.

Who's developing an 8 speed manual (clutch) for a car? Case closed.
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Juggernaut
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When the bill comes in from repairing those trannies, you'll weep. Manuals? Not so much.
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elwoodblues
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reply to digitalfutur

said by digitalfutur:

Sticks are not only not cool, they're not as fast as an automatic and its clutch-less iterations, and use more fuel compared to a 7-9 speed auto or a CVT.

Not my fault people are clueless and can't drive a stick, I learned on both an automatic and a stick. The majority of the cars I've owned have had sticks

Who's developing an 8 speed manual (clutch) for a car? Case closed.

BMW has a 7 speed and so does Porsche. Close enough.

CVT's are a joke, I can't wait for the day those belts wear out and.or break (inevitable) and the powertrain is out of warranty.

$$$$$$$$$

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nitzguy
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Sudbury, ON
reply to Juggernaut

said by Juggernaut:

When the bill comes in from repairing those trannies, you'll weep. Manuals? Not so much.

Its a chicken and egg scenario you paint though....how do you learn to drive a stick?...you can't...because nobody has one...its not that I don't want to...its that I can't learn and I don't want to burn out clutches and not drive and get frustrated...

So explain to me how I solve this

GBerry

join:2011-06-12
Guelph, ON
reply to digitalfutur

said by digitalfutur:

Sticks are not only not cool, they're not as fast as an automatic and its clutch-less iterations, and use more fuel compared to a 7-9 speed auto or a CVT.

With over 95% penetration now, automatics will soon be close to 100% on consumer vehicles, thanks to computerization and more stringent fuel economy standards.

Who's developing an 8 speed manual (clutch) for a car? Case closed.

Lewis Hamilton is buying/bought a Zonda with a manual not the DSG. Know why? He prefers them because they are more fun. I wouldn't blame him either. I may not be able to handle that car but the videos I've seen of the DSG make it look rather rough in 1st.

Personally, I'd rather drive a 150hp manual than a 300hp automatic. Might not be as fast but it is much more enjoyable to drive.

peterboro
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Peterborough, ON
reply to digitalfutur

said by digitalfutur:

Sticks are not only not cool, they're not as fast as an automatic and its clutch-less iterations, and use more fuel compared to a 7-9 speed auto or a CVT.

You're kinda correct. The fastest cars use a combination of both actually that take the clutch out of the equation but allow the driver to control shift points.

So in my Pro Street I use an automatic with a Cheetah valve body that has a reverse pattern no first gear brake and fully manual.

As I drive the car on the street now for the last couple decades there is no more trans brake and the stall is more reasonable for fuel mileage.


vue666
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reply to digitalfutur

said by digitalfutur:

Sticks are not only not cool, they're not as fast as an automatic and its clutch-less iterations, and use more fuel compared to a 7-9 speed auto or a CVT.

With over 95% penetration now, automatics will soon be close to 100% on consumer vehicles, thanks to computerization and more stringent fuel economy standards.

Who's developing an 8 speed manual (clutch) for a car? Case closed.

BMN and Porsche are looking into 7 and 8 speed manual trannies...

»www.e90post.com/forums/showthrea···t=701345

»www.dailytech.com/BMW+Patent+Sho···4881.htm


vue666
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reply to peterboro

said by peterboro:

said by digitalfutur:

Sticks are not only not cool, they're not as fast as an automatic and its clutch-less iterations, and use more fuel compared to a 7-9 speed auto or a CVT.

You're kinda correct. The fastest cars use a combination of both actually that take the clutch out of the equation but allow the driver to control shift points.

So in my Pro Street I use an automatic with a Cheetah valve body that has a reverse pattern no first gear brake and fully manual.

As I drive the car on the street now for the last couple decades there is no more trans brake and the stall is more reasonable for fuel mileage.

In drag racing automatics are preferred as they are more consistent allowing the driver to keep as close as possible to his "index" without going over it (which would result in being a disallowed run)....

Actually the two speed GM Powerglide is still one of the more preferred trannys in drag racing....


Gone
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said by vue666:

In drag racing automatics are preferred as they are more consistent allowing the driver to keep as close as possible to his "index" without going over it (which would result in being a disallowed run)....

I thought they used sequential transmissions rather than proper automatics?


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reply to digitalfutur

said by digitalfutur:

Sticks are not only not cool, they're not as fast as an automatic and its clutch-less iterations, and use more fuel compared to a 7-9 speed auto or a CVT.

Why are they "not cool"? Because hip-hop wannabes can't be reclined halfway to the back seat, leaning over onto the console and still shift gears? As for "fast", I don't do track day driving on my daily commute, so an extra two hundred milliseconds per shift aren't really a bother to me; I prefer to actually be involved in driving a car, rather than have it do the work for me. Furthermore, the fast shifting transmissions are usually dual clutch automated manuals, not automatics in the traditional sense.

I think if all cars came with a manual, we'd have fewer distracted drivers who were talking/texting/emailing because they would have to be more involved with the act of piloting several thousand kilos of steel/rubber/aluminum/leather rather than that being second or third on their operation priority list. Besides, any man who can't shift a manual without using the clutch can check their "package" at the door.
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Styvas
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Hamilton, ON

An interesting thing I realized recently is that manual transmissions really mess up insurance quotes. My wife simply can't drive a stick shift. She doesn't know how. She'd never get it out of the driveway. Therefore, I'm the primary driver on that car. However, she generally prefers that I drive, plus with my long commute I spend more time in the other car than her on the basis of kilometers alone (even if she drove it 100% of the rest of the time).

But insurance can't compute the idea that I'm primary driver on both cars they just don't allow it). Since she has only been licensed for a few years, her rating is lower than mine and our insurance rates are higher because she has to be noted as primary driver on the automatic transmission vehicle. It's really quite silly.
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vue666
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reply to Gone

said by Gone:

said by vue666:

In drag racing automatics are preferred as they are more consistent allowing the driver to keep as close as possible to his "index" without going over it (which would result in being a disallowed run)....

I thought they used sequential transmissions rather than proper automatics?

I think it depends on the class... It's been quite a while since I really followed the NHRA or IHRA. Perhaps Peterboro can pipe in...

I know some classes use something like the Lenco manual trans which has a shift lever for each gear. I know Pro Stock class used Lenco...

While other classes seem to prefer automatics. A Top Fuel rail does the 1/4 mile in 4 seconds (approx) so not a lot of time to shift...

quote:
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerglide#Racing

Racing

Although it is a very old design, the Power Glide still has a strong following in drag racing due to its strength and simplicity.[5] Power Glides are also popular in mud racing and monster truck racing. In the first few years after introduction, they became known as the "Slip-N-Slide Power Glide", due to the fluid coupling, (as opposed to the mechanical coupling of a clutch-driven gearbox), and the "Positive-Pop transmission" This last is due to the characteristic "bump" or "pop" which occurs as the transmission is put into gear from neutral.
Currently Robert Campisi from Australia holds the World Record for the fastest run using a Power Glide transmission, clocking 5.95s at 260 mph in his Twin Turbo Ford Mustang in September 2011.[6]

Again it's been quite a while since I followed drag racing....

Summit Racing has a lot of Powerglides for sale...

»www.summitracing.com/search/depa···werglide

»www.atiracing.com/products/trans···ndex.htm

»www.lencoracing.com/

Again Peterboro can correct me...