Topic 'Re: Overages ! Ca ching' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651745 en Sat, 25 May 2013 19:53:17 EDT Sat, 25 May 2013 19:53:17 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27664156 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27664156 Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:07:07 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27658002 said by KrK:

Actually, they are proving that the barriers aren't surmountable.

Thus why so many MVNO's.

The existence of MVNO's only further prove that the barriers are surmountable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27658002 Thu, 25 Oct 2012 02:32:54 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27656877
Thus why so many MVNO's.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27656877 Wed, 24 Oct 2012 18:18:08 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27653604 said by Lamiel:

Nope. Redbox Home Fusion streams will be off-net, toll-free, overage-exempt bulk-rate, forward-cached, etc.

Has that been confirmed by Verizon? Last I heard the terms of the plan were a complete unknown...

Pure speculation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27653604 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:21:21 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652990

Nope. Redbox Home Fusion streams will be off-net, toll-free, overage-exempt bulk-rate, forward-cached, etc.

Has that been confirmed by Verizon? Last I heard the terms of the plan were a complete unknown...
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Ever heard of barriers to entry?

The biggest problem with the Laissez-faire market theory is that it always assumes that at any time anyone can enter business and increase the supply of choices and competition. Since that isn't true, the rest of it also fails.

Sprint-Nextel-Clear, TMobile, MetroPCS, Leap, Cricket, and to some extent, America Movil prove that those "barriers" are surmountable. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652772 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 16:18:18 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652653
The biggest problem with the Laissez-faire market theory is that it always assumes that at any time anyone can enter business and increase the supply of choices and competition. Since that isn't true, the rest of it also fails.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652653 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:49:31 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652373 said by PastTense:

Verizon is in the business of maximizing profits. So if Verizon can make more money from customers streaming from Netflix (via $10/GB overage charges) than from streaming from Redbox/Verizon (via a $8-10 monthly fee) then it will prefer the first option.

Wrong. Overage charges kill goodwill and beget turnover - Mom cancels the whole account and/or learns about prepaid. With iPhone customers worth at least $2K/each, no company is looking to offend over $10/gb; they want your $120/month and your two-year renewal.

Only Sprint has officially fired customers, and they paid for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652373 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:40:15 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652340 said by silbaco:

I think they just want money and don't really care how they get it. And despite what a lot of people say about massive profits, their profit margin is really not that impressive.

They want the extra add-on revenue from Redbox.
Not overage charges.

As for margins, if they were "massive", or enjoyed "record profits", as the envious bankrupt socialist media likes to refer to, then another "greedy" firm would enter the market in pursuit of those dollars. We've seen how well Sprint and TMobile have fared.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652340 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:32:18 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652323 said by Skippy25:

Off-net - You mean in an intertube that violates net neutrality rules?

How are you and they going to try to skirt this one?

Are they going to attach all redbox's to their "local" intranet and call it local traffic?

Are they going to deliver it on the same "channel" as cable TV or PPV and say it isnt internet traffic?

Even assuming that Verizon had to observe Network Neutrality "rules" on Home Fusion, which they don't, NN only applies to Internet (capital-I) routed data, not private traffic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652323 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:29:11 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652059 said by Skippy25:

Off-net - You mean in an intertube that violates net neutrality rules?

How are you and they going to try to skirt this one?

Are they going to attach all redbox's to their "local" intranet and call it local traffic?

Are they going to deliver it on the same "channel" as cable TV or PPV and say it isnt internet traffic?

Just like the other companies with iptv and VoIP, that have internet caps. (ex. Uverse)
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652059 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:35:24 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652027 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27652027 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 13:27:44 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651874
How are you and they going to try to skirt this one?

Are they going to attach all redbox's to their "local" intranet and call it local traffic?

Are they going to deliver it on the same "channel" as cable TV or PPV and say it isnt internet traffic?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651874 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:57:04 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651867 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651867 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:54:38 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651852
Guess no one learned anything from the FCC slapping down Madison River.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651852 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:51:06 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651849 said by WHT:

At $10 per 1 GB, I can see that working very well for Verizon investors.

I'm pretty sure you don't need Verizon service to get this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651849 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:50:25 EDT Re: Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651801 said by WHT:

At $10 per 1 GB, I can see that working very well for Verizon investors.

Nope. Redbox Home Fusion streams will be off-net, toll-free, overage-exempt bulk-rate, forward-cached, etc.

Contrary to the drivel we read here daily, Verizon does not want overage charges; they want you to pay a hefty premium for their basic service and add-ons, but nothing punitive. That's bad for business.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Overages-Ca-ching-27651801 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:36:23 EDT Overages ! Ca ching http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Overages-Ca-ching-27651745 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Overages-Ca-ching-27651745 Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:22:10 EDT