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Re: Guilford Co. voters say ballot cast for Romney came up Obama


Military Absentee Ballots Not Always Counted

Thousands of absentee ballots cast by military service personnel often go uncounted, according to election experts who say the problem has always existed but is even more of an issue in presidential election years

The project, which tracks military votes, found in 2010 that only 4.5 percent of the 2 million military and overseas voters reported to the Election Assistance Commission were able to cast absentee ballots that were actually counted. Meanwhile, the overall national voter participation rate for the 2010 election was 41.6 percent.

»www.newsmax.com/US/absentee-ball···d/443513

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Re: Military Absentee Ballots Not Always Counted

I know all Americans want our men and women serving in the Armed Forces the opportunity to vote.

From the your linked article, it sounds like the problem is similar to civilian Americans who move frequently and forget to advise their local jurisdictions of a change of address, or re-register in their new place of residence.


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Re: Guilford Co. voters say ballot cast for Romney came up Obama

Now in Ohio...it selects Obama when Romney it pressed.
Coincidence?

»www.marionstar.com/article/20121···_check=1

MARION — Joan Stevens was one of several early voters at the polls on Monday. But when Stevens tried to cast her ballot for president, she noticed a problem.

Upon selecting “Mitt Romney” on the electronic touch screen, Barack Obama’s name lit up.

It took Stevens three tries before her selection was accurately recorded.

“You want to vote for who you want to vote for, and when you can’t it’s irritating,” Stevens said.

Stevens said she alerted Jackie Smith, a board of elections member who was present. Smith declined to comment, but Stevens says she mentioned that the machine had been having problems all day


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LOL

"Are you sure you want to vote for...
Yes
Are you really really sure you want to vote for...
YES
For real?
YES YES YES!
Come on now. I'm sure you'd rather vote for...
WTF?
Ok ok. I'll cast you vote then.
. o O (Finally)
Just to check. Are you sure you're sure?
Oh f... it!
Hello?"
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Wow whats going on ?

Researchers found a consistent pattern of vote flipping for Mitt Romney in the 2012 Republican primaries. Will that transfer to the general election, asks Michael Collins?

A group of independent researchers caught a pattern of apparent vote flipping during the 2012 Republican primaries that consistently favored Mitt Romney. A form of election fraud, vote flipping occurs when votes are changed from one candidate to another or several others during electronic voting and vote tabulation.

»www.americanpolitics.com/index.p···Itemid=2

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGEBwAIlAdU

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And so the setting of the stage to overturn the vote of the people has now officially begun:

»www.rgj.com/article/20121101/NEW···ext|NEWS



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said by armed:

And so the setting of the stage to overturn the vote of the people has now officially begun ...

Unless, of course, some of the votes of 'the people' are fraudulent or have been incorrectly entered... or the "voters" are unregistered, dead, or non-existent. There are always two sides to every issue, and much of the time, there will be at least some validity to both sides' charges. As proven in almost every election, corruption and voter fraud cross party lines.
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said by Blackbird:

said by armed:

And so the setting of the stage to overturn the vote of the people has now officially begun ...

Unless, of course, some of the votes of 'the people' are fraudulent or have been incorrectly entered... or the "voters" are unregistered, dead, or non-existent. There are always two sides to every issue, and much of the time, there will be at least some validity to both sides' charges. As proven in almost every election, corruption and voter fraud cross party lines.

And yet no one ever proves it. Oh well who cares?


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said by armed:

said by Blackbird:

said by armed:

And so the setting of the stage to overturn the vote of the people has now officially begun ...

Unless, of course, some of the votes of 'the people' are fraudulent or have been incorrectly entered... or the "voters" are unregistered, dead, or non-existent. There are always two sides to every issue, and much of the time, there will be at least some validity to both sides' charges. As proven in almost every election, corruption and voter fraud cross party lines.

And yet no one ever proves it. ...

Hmm. Many of the 492,000 Google hits on "voter fraud convictions" would seem to indicate otherwise.
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As proven in almost every election, corruption and voter fraud cross party lines.

And that is especially true in close elections. Since this one comes down to the results in a handful of states expect questionable stuff to happen in those states. On Nov 7th expect all sides to be screaming no matter who wins.
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said by Blackbird:

Hmm. Many of the 492,000 Google hits on "voter fraud convictions" would seem to indicate otherwise.

Just as a matter of curiosity, judging by the ~ 4,990,000 Google hits on "tax fraud convictions" there is 10x more tax fraud being caught than voter fraud.

Maybe the IRS should be put in charge of vote auditing LOL


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Maybe the IRS should be put in charge of vote auditing...

If that happens I might have to do an Alec Baldwin
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Dozens of voters in Pueblo County, Colorado have claimed electronic voting machines have changed their votes for Mitt Romney to votes for President Barack Obama.

A voter told KRDO Newschannel 13 that a checkmark appeared next to Obama's name after she cast her vote for Romney.

"I wonder where my vote really counted," she stated.

Pueblo County Clerk and Recorder Gilbert Ortiz admitted he was aware of "fewer than ten instances" of votes being switched and conceded such errors have occurred since the county has used the electronic voting machines in 2006. He blamed those changes on human error.

»www.breitbart.com/Big-Government···To-Obama



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said by Cartel:

Dozens of voters in Pueblo County, Colorado have claimed electronic voting machines have changed their votes for Mitt Romney to votes for President Barack Obama.

Call me a cynic, but I'm sure if the names were reversed, that is people selecting Obama and the machines light up Romney's name, we would be seeing this broadcast 24x7 on the news channels.

It seems, that since these "errors" tend to favor Obama, the MSM is treating this as a non-story.

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It seems, that since these "errors" tend to favor Obama, the MSM is treating this as a non-story.

Right, because it's well-known that all multimillionaire media-conglomerate owners, with the exception of the patron saint of phone-hackers, Dirty Digger Murdoch, are in the bag for democratic govenments.

This is the perennial whine of conservative extremists everywhere: the meeja don't like them. Poor babies.


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said by dave:

said by beerbum:

It seems, that since these "errors" tend to favor Obama, the MSM is treating this as a non-story.

Right, because it's well-known that all multimillionaire media-conglomerate owners, with the exception of the patron saint of phone-hackers, Dirty Digger Murdoch, are in the bag for democratic govenments.

This is the perennial whine of conservative extremists everywhere: the meeja don't like them. Poor babies.

Not all, but a fair number of them. Which is why they're so silent on the subject of Benghazi, for example. A security issue to the nth degree, and covered far more thoroughly in the foreign press than here at home.

I don't care which flavor you vote, but that remark was inaccurate.


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said by Cartel:

Dozens of voters in Pueblo County, Colorado have claimed electronic voting machines have changed their votes for Mitt Romney to votes for President Barack Obama.

A voter told KRDO Newschannel 13 that a checkmark appeared next to Obama's name after she cast her vote for Romney.

"I wonder where my vote really counted," she stated.

Pueblo County Clerk and Recorder Gilbert Ortiz admitted he was aware of "fewer than ten instances" of votes being switched and conceded such errors have occurred since the county has used the electronic voting machines in 2006. He blamed those changes on human error.

»www.breitbart.com/Big-Government···To-Obama

»www.krdo.com/news/Pueblo-voting-···dex.html

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State officials have been testing electronic voting terminals in Pueblo after some voters complained that when they tried to cast a ballot for Mitt Romney, the terminal indicated the vote was for Barack Obama.

Our partner, The Pueblo Chieftain reports (»bit.ly/Yz9ilN) that specialists from the Secretary of State's Office tested 10 of the 30 terminals Monday. They found the machines were sensitive to accidental touches but weren't deliberately diverting votes from one candidate to another.

The newspaper reports all erroneous votes were corrected with the help of an election judge.

The terminals twice ask voters to review their ballot choices for accuracy. Voters can correct the choices before the vote is cast.
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As voting machines go, I much prefer the machines we use here, which use robust pushbuttons to select one's candidate choice. One of the issues with the touch screen machines is that the zone of sensitivity for selecting a given candidate does not necessarily correspond to the visible area of the selection box (which is why these machines sometimes need to be "re-calibrated"... that is, the system are re-tweaked to make the touch zone boundaries correspond to the correct choice). The order in which candidates are listed and where the race is located amidst the overall ballot layout can impact calibration errors and which way a mis-read vote tends to go, since it affects where on the screen the system reads the choice boxes to be, relative to the competitor's name.

One thing about a button... it either successfully pushes or it doesn't (in which case the selection light won't come on). I've never heard of a pushbutton lighting up for the wrong candidate, though I've heard of them not registering at all (due to a bad switch).
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Here's how touchscreens killed Romney votes

»www.wnd.com/2012/11/heres-how-to···politics



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This country has a long...very long and persistent permanent without a break history of voter fraud plus secondarily incompetent polling and counting votes, plus to a lesser degree but growing IMO in percentage totally incompetent votes. In fact there are certain states and or large counties that you can bank on confusion and inexplicable delayed results, lost ballots, all sort of wild irregularities.

Regarding strictly voter fraud and cheating using various means both parties as a matter of routine cheat in various areas various ways and many candidates in a particular election cheat or try to cheat on their own initiative.

The strange thing is that the above is not a secret. Never has been. Not ever. It get acknowledged each election and reported on and no body cares or get involved on a wide scale national lets reform it level. About the only real exception was the when after all the less than perfect system was implemented one single state happen to end up being the one and only state that in a neck and neck race created all our country's focus right up eventually to the state and the the US Supreme Court---why simply because in this one instance in black and white no nonsense the vote winner in this state, Florida, 2000, would decide the presidency.

With advancements in technology and certain other changes and modifications in registration and polling procedures or laws plus ballot types the reliability, accuracy and validity of the total count will only get worse.

Again all parties cheat equally. The one and only thing they agree on. (Unofficially, of course.)

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