[Cable] New speeds?

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Sanek join:2006-08-10 Kanata, ON	[Cable] New speeds? Just curious as to whether there are any news as to whether Teksavvy is ever going to get any of the faster speed profiles that Rogers is offering Thanks in advance!
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elwoodblues Elwood Blues Premium join:2006-08-30 HarperLand	Rogers is only offering the higher tiers when the TPIA provider is on an aggregated POI. Depending on CRTC hearings that could be by next November.
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Sanek join:2006-08-10 Kanata, ON	said by elwoodblues: Rogers is only offering the higher tiers when the TPIA provider is on an aggregated POI. Depending on CRTC hearings that could be by next November. Ok so same old - I thought something might have changed in the past few months, but I guess it's still the same story.
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InvalidError join:2008-02-03 kudos:5	said by Sanek: Ok so same old - I thought something might have changed in the past few months, but I guess it's still the same story. Some ISPs didn't like Rogers' aggregated-only speed matching but when they protested about it, Rogers said that it makes no sense to waste resources on supporting speed-matching on non-aggregated and that it gives ISPs extra incentive to switch to aggregated when non-aggregated is scheduled for termination. The CRTC agreed with Rogers and that is the end of that.
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koreyb Replace the CRTC NOW join:2005-01-08 East York, ON	reply to Sanek The one thing I hope they match on is the upload upgrades... 1mb and 512k is very slow for today's standards.
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resa1983 Premium join:2008-03-10 North York, ON kudos:7 Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable	reply to elwoodblues said by elwoodblues: Rogers is only offering the higher tiers when the TPIA provider is on an aggregated POI. Depending on CRTC hearings that could be by next November. Wait.. What? I don't remember seeing that in the filings. :\ EDIT: I thought you were talking about faster uploads for a min. -- Battle.net Tech Support MVP
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jmck formerly 'shaded' join:2010-10-02 Ottawa, ON	reply to Sanek so what does it actually mean for TSI to move to aggregated POI and when/will it happen? are there any TPIAs currently moved to aggregated POI?
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yabos join:2003-02-16 London, ON	Start seems to have the 32Mbps tier. They're on the aggregated POI.
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bbhog join:2010-07-05 North York, ON Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable	said by yabos: Start seems to have the 32Mbps tier. They're on the aggregated POI. What this tells me is that there is no incentive for Teksavvy to move to aggregated at this time. Besides the fact that TSI still needs to recover the investment in the huge upgrade to the non-aggregated networks they created, we are already getting 28/1. There is minimal benefit to moving to 32/1. Also it would seem that it currently isn't cost efficient to provide rogers' ultimate package. However once Rogers officially moves the new upload speeds to their customers and subsequently the TPIAs, it might be worth it as 32/1 will become 32/7, 28/1 will become 28/3
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resa1983 Premium join:2008-03-10 North York, ON kudos:7 Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable	said by bbhog: said by yabos: Start seems to have the 32Mbps tier. They're on the aggregated POI. However once Rogers officially moves the new upload speeds to their customers and subsequently the TPIAs, it might be worth it as 32/1 will become 32/7, 28/1 will become 28/3 Because they'll need additional capacity, and won't get it unless they head to aggregated? Or because increased speeds won't go to those on non-aggregated POIs? -- Battle.net Tech Support MVP
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	said by resa1983: Because they'll need additional capacity, and won't get it unless they head to aggregated? Or because increased speeds won't go to those on non-aggregated POIs? Capacity isn't the issue. They're just restricting it to providers using the aggregate POI model as an incentive to move over but for TSI it isn't really worth it.
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resa1983 Premium join:2008-03-10 North York, ON kudos:7 Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable	said by brad: said by resa1983: Because they'll need additional capacity, and won't get it unless they head to aggregated? Or because increased speeds won't go to those on non-aggregated POIs? Capacity isn't the issue. They're just restricting it to providers using the aggregate POI model as an incentive to move over but for TSI it isn't really worth it. Is this in the filings? I know the faster tiers are restricted to aggregated, but since Rogers will be doing away with the 28/1 tier, and replacing it with 28/3 for their own customers, don't they HAVE to replace it for TPIA as well? This really shouldn't be restricted to aggregated only. -- Battle.net Tech Support MVP
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bbhog join:2010-07-05 North York, ON Reviews: ·TekSavvy Cable	said by resa1983: replacing it with 28/3 for their own customers, don't they HAVE to replace it for TPIA as well? This really shouldn't be restricted to aggregated only. Yes, we will get the new upload speeds once Rogers customers officially get them. Currently Rogers customers have had success calling into support and getting the increase even though Rogers hasn't officially released it.
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Teddy Boom k kudos Received join:2007-01-29 Toronto, ON kudos:5	reply to resa1983 said by resa1983: Is this in the filings? I know the faster tiers are restricted to aggregated, but since Rogers will be doing away with the 28/1 tier, and replacing it with 28/3 for their own customers, don't they HAVE to replace it for TPIA as well? This really shouldn't be restricted to aggregated only. Well, there are two different issues I think. Will dis-aggregated aggregated get the upload speed upgrades, and can dis-aggregated ISPs access higher download speed tiers. Current thinking is that the second will never happen, only aggregated will have access to higher tiers. For the former though... Anybody's guess. -- electronicsguru.ca
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bt join:2009-02-26 canada kudos:1 Reviews: ·Start Communicat..	reply to bbhog said by bbhog: Yes, we will get the new upload speeds once Rogers customers officially get them. Currently Rogers customers have had success calling into support and getting the increase even though Rogers hasn't officially released it. Only in supported areas, though.
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XNemesis join:2002-11-16 Kitchener, ON	Won't TSI have to eventually go aggregated just to stay competitive?
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damir SFRJ Premium join:2003-05-24	said by XNemesis: Won't TSI have to eventually go aggregated just to stay competitive? In that case (i believe, but, i might be wrong) they would have to increase their prices + force bandwidth limits. As i understood by reading posts from rocca (start.ca) , he is saying that bandwidth is much more expensive (aggregated). -- www.urimage.net - Free Image Hosting
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to bt said by bt: said by bbhog: Yes, we will get the new upload speeds once Rogers customers officially get them. Currently Rogers customers have had success calling into support and getting the increase even though Rogers hasn't officially released it. Only in supported areas, though. Wow, for real?
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to bbhog said by bbhog: Yes, we will get the new upload speeds once Rogers customers officially get them. Currently Rogers customers have had success calling into support and getting the increase even though Rogers hasn't officially released it. It sounds as if everyone on DOCSIS 3 tiers will get the new speed tiers once Rogers more or less is done or past a pretty high threshold for completion with the upgrading but until then only a tiny percentage of their retail customers have the newer speed tiers via calling in and jumping through in a lot of cases a lot of hoops.
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brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON	reply to XNemesis said by XNemesis: Won't TSI have to eventually go aggregated just to stay competitive? Depends on your definition of competitive. Moving to the aggregated model sounds like a step backwards and making them not competitive but AFAIK there is a cut off point at some point in the future and then they're screwed.
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