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[WIN7] No Service Pack 2

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The engineering team responsible for building and releasing service packs has reportedly been told there won’t be another service pack for Windows 7. It marks the first time in multiple releases that Microsoft won’t be issuing a second major update.

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If anything, having SP2 released would allow less monthly updates to be installed when you first install Windows 7 onto a system. As an example, I rebuilt my system back on Oct 17th with SP1 built-in to the install media. Still, I had over 100 updates to install from Windows update, that took about an hour to do.

Not to mention the size of these updates was around 400 or 500 MB. While that is not that bad, if you happen to have an ISP with a low monthly data cap, and build 4-5 systems a month, it could put you over the limit. So, maybe the ISP's are behind this? Why release a SP that you can download once and save, when you can install over a 100 updates on a rebuilt, using up 500 MB of your download cap each time you reinstall the OS? Sure, many people don't rebuild their systems every day, but I hope everyone gets the idea that I'm going for here.

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reply to trparky
I find it hard to believe... If support extends all the way till 2020, surely there will be service pack 2 sometime in the next 8 years....

reply to trparky
I suppose a Vista SP3 is totally out of the question.

Yeah, that's a lot less likely....

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Maybe they think the world will end before 2020, so there's no reason to offer SP2 for Win 7.
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reply to trparky
Is there anything particularly wrong with Windows 7? It's been rock solid for me.

Sure, a roll-up of updates would be nice, but I don't think this is some mass conspiracy to push Win8. A lot of corporate users are just now moving towards Win7, Microsoft has every reason to fix whatever's wrong with Win7.

Well XP SP3 came out after Vista, so I'm not sure what you're on about here. Also, there was nothing inherently wrong with Me or Vista aside from shoddy drivers.

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I guess it really comes down to the question "What is in a Service Pack?"

I see that question having at least two answers

1) New features that were not present in the given OS at time of release

2) A roll-up of all prior Updates (Security and Non-Security) from a given point in time backwards to when the OS (or prior SP) was released.

From what I can tell, there is nothing "wrong" with Windows 7. As many have said, Windows 7 is a rock-solid OS, that really does not need to have "new features" added at this time. So, answer #1 above does not apply.

However, Answer #2 would apply. SP1 for Windows 7 came out in February of 2011. Since then, there has been 20 months of updates (March of 2011 through October of 2012). If we assume an average of 8 updates a month, that would be 160 updates that all could apply to Windows 7.

Now, I know some don't apply directly to Windows 7 (some are office, some are SQL Server, some only apply to the Server side of things, etc), but the point is, there has been a LOT of updates. For someone that does re-install their OS on their own this is a lot of extra work that has to be done.

But, if you look at the enterprise side of things, a re-image of a workstation could happen more often. Having your image contain the latest security updates is an on-going process. However, if there was a way to just install one update (SP2) that would be easier to manage then trying to install 100+ Updates.

So, do I feel we need SP2 to add features to Windows 7? No I don't. However, having SP2 so that those of us (home and corporate) that do re-install Windows 7 don't have to wait hours to download and install 100's of updates each time would be a good thing.

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Now, if they're planning on using "update rollups" similar to how they release them for Internet Explorer, then maybe they might be onto something there.

I installed Windows 7 64-bit just the other day because I had to build a new machine and there were a ton of updates, not just for Windows but there was Microsoft .NET Framework updates as well and those often numbered in the 50 to 100 MB zone. Easily 2 GBs of downloads there!

And don't get me started on the Office 2010 updates. I had to install several updates for Office before it even offered Service Pack 1 to be downloaded and then on top of that even more updates after Office 2010 SP1 was installed.
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reply to Hall
I agree Hall . Most OS SP's don't include new features. As you said, XP did, but I think that is the only exception. My reason for that as a potential "answer" to my "What is a Service Pack" question was just that: A potential answer. Microsoft could include new features of the OS in a SP, but they have not done so (except as noted in XP).

Which is why they are good as a "one stop install of security updates" which in my mind boils down to installing one big patch instead of 100's of little ones.

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