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pflog
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join:2001-09-01
El Dorado Hills, CA
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reply to NetFixer

Re: [Caps] Comcast Business vs Residential and data usage

said by NetFixer:

OTOH, if Atacand is doing the speed tests through a VPN to leaseweb.com, that could have an effect too.

Perhaps, but how can a VPN cause PB to "stay on"?
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Atacand

@leaseweb.com
reply to NetFixer

The speed test results are from speedtest.comcast.net and speedtest.net.

I do realize that speeds will be lower when using the VPN, but luckily, they haven't been much lower.

Here are my speed test results WITH the VPN connected. Very pleased!

»stage.results.speedtest.comcast.···2592.png



pflog
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Speed test results are notorious for misreporting speeds, since they do not last long enough to test sustained speeds.

Try running shaperprobe to get your actual post-PB speeds.
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medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
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reply to plencnerb

said by plencnerb:

The way I read that, if you want Business Class service, it must be for commercial use only. If that is true, and totally enforceable by Comcast, then how are people getting "Business Class" service at a non-business location? I've seen many posts on here where people will order Business Class to avoid the 250 GB cap (when it was in place), and they get it.

Not trying to start a fight here or anything, but the way I read that statement, if I'm not a business (aka a normal Joe Home User), I should not be allowed to get Business Class service. Or, am I missing something?

--Brian

don't forget those workers who telecommute from home...

not exactly a business but an employer requirement or employer paid perk..


Atacand

@leaseweb.com
reply to pflog

Here's my shaper probe results (without the VPN, of course) :

DiffProbe release. January 2012.
Shaper Detection Module.

Connected to server 80.239.142.215.

Estimating capacity:
Upstream: 7983 Kbps.
Downstream: 33236 Kbps.

The measurement will last for about 2.5 minutes. Please wait.

Checking for traffic shapers:

Upstream: No shaper detected.
Median received rate: 7765 Kbps.

Downstream: Burst size: 19641-19784 KB; Shaping rate: 28746 Kbps.

For more information, visit: »www.cc.gatech.edu/~partha/diffprobe
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pflog
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Yep, so you're seeing ~8 Mbps upstream power boost, ~33 Mbps downstream power boost, and sustained speeds of ~27/7.
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Atacand

@leaseweb.com

We switched from residential to business class internet las week because we were exceeding our 250GB data allowance.

Someone in the household is disabled and streams ~450GB/month on streaming services -- it's all they have, and we don't subscribe to TV.

We are coming from the 105/20 Extreme tier on the residential side, and the speed difference is quite noticeable. The only two things we are really gaining are better customer support and [almost] unlimited data usage.

Do you think the Premium tier (27/7) is sufficient to stream a HD movie on say an Apple TV or Hi-Def TV while another user streams CD-quality music and browses the internet at high speed?

Also, does business class traffic get some type of priority above that of residential traffic? I realize I'm connected to the same node as the residential folks (they used the existing residential drop), but my ping times are more stable, and even though there is powerboos that I was unaware of, the speeds aren't all over the place -- they seem more stable.

Any thoughts on traffic priority for business class customers and the bandwith usage I asked about?

Thank you.



pflog
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said by Atacand :

Do you think the Premium tier (27/7) is sufficient to stream a HD movie on say an Apple TV or Hi-Def TV while another user streams CD-quality music and browses the internet at high speed?

Yes, even 720p higher end video streaming is more like 6 Mbps and Netflix uses nowhere near that:

Netflix streams HD content using Microsoft VC1AP encoding at a maximum bitrate of between 2600 kbit/s and 3800 kbit/s (depending on the movie).

3800 kbit/s (or ~4 Mbps, rounding up) is less than 1/6th of your bandwidth. So if the route and connection is clean, you could theoretically stream probably 4-5 simultaneously, and CD streaming is much, much less. So 1 HD video stream + CD streaming should be no problem.

Also, does business class traffic get some type of priority above that of residential traffic? I realize I'm connected to the same node as the residential folks (they used the existing residential drop), but my ping times are more stable, and even though there is powerboos that I was unaware of, the speeds aren't all over the place -- they seem more stable.

Nope, same lines and same priority.
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Atacand

@leaseweb.com

Do you think 1TB of usage is excessive for the 27/7 plan?


greg925

join:2010-12-23
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I am on Comcast business class and done 2tb this month so far no call I am pretty sure on business class you would not get a call there is no cap for business class I hope that answers your question



pflog
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I wouldn't personally feel comfortable doing 2TB month after month on a 27/7 plan, but then again I rarely exceed 200G/mo.
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Atacand

@leaseweb.com
reply to greg925

There is a 'soft cap' from what I have heard from others in here.

I *do* use P2P (that's my business) over OpenVPN, but with that I don't think they can see the type/protocol I am using.


keason
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reply to taiganaut

I also would not be concerned , we routinely upload > 1tb on 27/7. If you plan on uploading somewhat close to the bandwidth limit, I would jump to the next tier for practical reasons (nailing your upload will also adversely impact download, plus latency dependent apps won't perform properly). We usually limit uploads to 80% of capacity for those reasons.



NetFixer
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reply to Atacand

said by Atacand :

There is a 'soft cap' from what I have heard from others in here.

I *do* use P2P (that's my business) over OpenVPN, but with that I don't think they can see the type/protocol I am using.

That depends on whom you consider to be "they". If "they" are Comcast, then as long as "they" don't get calls/letters from third parties complaining about your activity, "they" could care less what protocols you use, or the content of any file transfers that you do.
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We need to witness our own limits transgressed, and some life pasturing freely where we never wander.


Atacand

@leaseweb.com
reply to greg925

Greg,

What business class internet plan are you on?


stonecolddsl
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reply to taiganaut

So I normally don't post here, but should say the real trick is not business but Teleworker account through your employer if you for big enough business. I got a nasty gram once from local business rep ( they were down in naples fl ) I called and said hey this is a business teleworker account and I work for pretty big software company. Moving large files is part of my business ( close to 4TB in one month. Basically had two projects I had to dump from my NAS to company server. I told the women she had a problem go talk to my company about it. 3 days later comcast was outside upgrading the neighborhood to support my substained bandwidth usage.
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greg925

join:2010-12-23
reply to Atacand

I am on 27/7


medbuyer

join:2003-11-20
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reply to Atacand

said by Atacand :

There is a 'soft cap' from what I have heard from others in here.

I *do* use P2P (that's my business) over OpenVPN, but with that I don't think they can see the type/protocol I am using.

wait..P2P is your business? or you were just saying that like it's none of my business and dont be snoopy??


Atacand

@leaseweb.com

Ah, the wonder of semantics.

Now that you mention it, I suppose P2P and streaming in my house are my "business" and no, I wasn't be rude to tell you to mind your own.



Atacand

@leaseweb.com
reply to greg925

Greg,

Do you find that this speed suits your needs? It's the same one I have.

I'd love to upgrade to the 50/10, but it just costs too much.



Atacand

@leaseweb.com
reply to stonecolddsl

I love this story! LOL!



JohnInSJ
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join:2003-09-22
Aptos, CA
reply to Atacand

said by Atacand :

Do you think 1TB of usage is excessive for the 27/7 plan?

27mbit down (closer to 30Mbit provisioned) is 8.34TB/month full out. 1-2TB is 12-25% of total. I would think you'd be ok. Worse case, you'd need to bump up to the next tier.
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