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Glen T

join:2003-11-03
BC
reply to joepwpb

Re: Upgrade Issues Summary

Program files for installed Windows software still existed in the Program Files folder for the Windows software that had been installed under Vista, but there were no corresponding registry entries for those installed programs and no record of them having been installed in the upgraded Win8 environment. I had to remove folders from Program Files and reinstall.

Since this was a test computer that I had been using to test installers for our own software (that was the purpose of setting up this machine with Win8) I knew exactly what had been installed of our stuff and what I expected to find after the upgrade, but none of our stuff was functional.


Glen T

join:2003-11-03
BC
reply to sekim

Re: [Info] Microsoft Store Online: Windows 8

said by sekim:

I'm curious if anyone has tried unpacking the Pro .iso to say the D drive and run setup .. for an upgrade install from within windows .. and kept all functional existing win 7 program files ?

That's essentially what I did, except that Drive D: was a DVD drive. I didn't boot from it. I ran the install from within Vista.

I don't see how running it from removable media could make any difference, but....


sekim
Premium,MVM
join:1999-08-17
Saint Petersburg, FL
kudos:1

Vista upgrade won't transfer the programs.. not functional working programs anyhow. Win7 pro upgrade is what I'm curious.

Guess its not a big deal, I wanted to try to retain the programs with the upgrade and have the pro iso too. I assume the iso will be online to grab all over the net soon.



joetaxpayer
I'M Here Till Thursday

join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA
reply to Gone Fishing

Sorry - I started a thread, and this may have been the place to ask - This talks about "upgrade." If one has a PC with no OS, for whatever reason, where is the "full install" version option?



Blogger
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reply to Gone Fishing

I have a disability that makes reading a computer screen a bit more of a challenge then it should be. Today is an especially bad day for whatever reason so the answer to what I'm about to ask may have all ready be answered. If so my apologies.

I have an OEM Genuine Copy of Windows Home Premium. The fact that it is an OEM---is that a problem.

In the past on some MS Windows updates and MSE updates I gotten a warning that my windows isn't genuine. (It is though, really.) I the simply have to fiddle with a couple of steps that MS offers me and it resolves itself.

It would be a very unhappy experience to find out that whatever caused that problem would at the end of downloading Windows 8 that the bird wouldn't get off the ground!



joepwpb
Premium
join:2000-12-15
West Palm Beach, FL
reply to sekim

said by sekim:

Vista upgrade won't transfer the programs.. not functional working programs anyhow. Win7 pro upgrade is what I'm curious.

Guess its not a big deal, I wanted to try to retain the programs with the upgrade and have the pro iso too. I assume the iso will be online to grab all over the net soon.

From what MS posted, upgrading from Win 7 Pro will not retain the Programs only from Home Basic or Home Premium. Hopefully we'll get that clarified soon.

Joe P

chandom

join:2001-05-23
Tallahassee, FL

Per Microsoft Technet: »technet.microsoft.com/en-us/libr···353.aspx

quote:
Edition Upgrades

This section describes the operating system editions from which you can upgrade to editions of Windows 8.
Upgrade to Windows 8

You can upgrade to Windows 8 and keep Windows settings, personal files, and applications from the following Windows operating system editions:

Windows 7 Starter
Windows 7 Home Basic
Windows 7 Home Premium

Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro

You can upgrade to Windows 8 Pro and keep Windows settings, personal files, and applications from the following Windows operating system editions:

Windows 7 Starter
Windows 7 Home Basic
Windows 7 Home Premium
Windows 7 Professional
Windows 7 Ultimate

Upgrade to Windows Enterprise (Volume License)

You can upgrade to Windows 8 Enterprise (Volume License) from the following operating system editions:

Windows 7 Professional (Volume License)
Windows 7 Enterprise (Volume License)
Windows 8 (Volume License)

Wikipedia also has a nice chart showing Windows 7 to 8 in place upgrade paths.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8_···tibility


joepwpb
Premium
join:2000-12-15
West Palm Beach, FL

Great find chandom !!

That info conflicts with what is posted at the Microsoft Store.

I think we are getting closer to the real story which most likely will be verified with the posting of actual experiences.

Joe P


chandom

join:2001-05-23
Tallahassee, FL
reply to joepwpb

Also, it looks like the product page has changed since the first post.

»www.microsoftstore.com/store/mss···Pro#tab2
Now states:

quote:
Upgrading to Windows 8
If your PC is running Windows 7, your files, programs and settings will easily transfer to Windows 8 Pro. If your PC is running Windows XP or Windows Vista, you will need to reinstall your apps. Some features such as touch may require a new PC. To check compatibility, visit your PC manufacturer’s website and check out www.windows.com/upgrade to run the Upgrade Assistant to check for compatibility and get more details on system requirements.



joepwpb
Premium
join:2000-12-15
West Palm Beach, FL

You're correct, they did change the product page dramatically. The second post in this thread shows the original wording (it is the section shaded in Red) which states that only 7 Basic and Premium retain the programs.

Joe P


Glen T

join:2003-11-03
BC

The upgrade 'with applications' rules appear to be a bit arbitrary. Dare I say, punitive?