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kingdome74
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[MoP] DPS

Hey all, what kind of DPS are you knocking down at 90 and what race and class are you? It has to be outrageous because I'm clipping 25K at 87 with a panda monk just whacking the mobs while I'm questing and I have no idea what kind of rotation I'm supposed to be using. I'm just mashing buttons until I hit 90.

On a side note the rest bonus bonus and the XP and food buffs are insane.

So, anyway, what's your DPS?

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On a non-DPS-gimmick fight (read: Feng), our Feng kill last week was right around 47-50k across a wide variety of toons.

Like, it was actually funny. 4 out of 5 DPS was at 47-48k. #5 was our rogue, who has the best gear (namely a Darkmoon Relic). He was at 60k, but he died early on in the last phase.

WoL was giving me fits, so I don't have this week's data
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35k ilvl 441 fury warrior n elf

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Here's some info, as best I can remember for my 471 Assassination Rogue. (489 MH/ 450 OH)

Raid Bosses
10M Stone Guardians (1 kill) - 67k (combat)
10M Feng (no kills) - 45-50k
LFR Stone Guardians (no movement cheese) - 78k (combat)
LFR Feng - 66k
LFR Garajal (no movement cheese) - 69k
LFR Council Fight - 52k
LFR Elegon - 72k
LFR Emperor - About 30k if running around hitting adds, about 45k if mostly staying on bosses.

Heroic Dungeon bosses are heavily group/mechanic dependant, but generally seeing numbers between 45k and 85k (much higher cooldown uptime b/c of shorter fights)

Hope this helps!

kingdome74
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Holy moly, that's some DPS! Does anyone know if 100K has been broken?

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Yesterday. I did almost 50k on the Monkey boss on my hunter at 85.

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said by kingdome74:

Holy moly, that's some DPS! Does anyone know if 100K has been broken?

McBrain (Mage), Muzzle (Ele Sham) and Darklogix (Mage) have done it. Not for a whole boss fight, but they've done it. I've seen blood DK's top 90k on trash...

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said by Immer:

said by kingdome74:

Holy moly, that's some DPS! Does anyone know if 100K has been broken?

McBrain (Mage), Muzzle (Ele Sham) and Darklogix (Mage) have done it. Not for a whole boss fight, but they've done it. I've seen blood DK's top 90k on trash...

dont forget blood dk's on trash pulls... 150k+
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on my silly little fury he does 85k on trash the number i posted is a total from average dungeon runs not per fight.

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I had tried dotting all the dogs in the trash pulls with nether tempest, but its trash who cares.

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said by DarkLogix:

I had tried dotting all the dogs in the trash pulls with nether tempest, but its trash who cares.

the trick is to do it just when the Big dog dies so that all the little ones take full dmg.

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by then they're almost dead anyway.
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I did 65K on emperor LFR... I kinda figured out the "dance" right now and I did I used the 500K hit about 5 times during fight..

I'm i474 with i463 MH, i489 OH (dagger)

Still with the dragonlin trinket, I can't get any other trinket to drop or have money to buy darkmoon one..

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Yeah, that dance is going to be fun to figure out. The two times I've done it in LFR I mostly run around and DPS adds since it seems liek 1/2 the LFR raids won't touch the adds.

Since people started posting about spikey and peak damage on trash and stuff, any combat rogue with a 463+ MH and commensurrate gear will always be about 200k+ through blood lust at the beginning of Stone Guard 10M (or any multi-target fight, really, with full raid buffs). BladeFlurry + Lust + Adrenaline Rush + 4300 AGI use trinket + 4000 AGI Virmen Pot + Shadow Blades = Wild Burst. Although, this takes carful massaging of threat (AKA Vanish - Prep - Vanish). I'd imagine Fire Mages and other cleave classes are probably above 200k in this case, as well.

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Currently with Fire it takes a little luck to get a pyro proc near the start of hero.

though with 5.1 combustion will just be used every CD so it should help with getting a combustion to spread.

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I was pretty much over 100k the entire fight last time I did Stone Guard in LFR, peaking over 130k...I think I ended up somewhere between 83-85k. My item level is 470 equipped.

I dropped the ball when it came to dot uptime and maximizing combustion.

Nick, Feng is a huge DPS gimmick if you've got tanks that can't use Shroud of Reversal properly...There's about 30-45 seconds total that you've got 75% chance to miss during Epicenter channels.

I'm somewhere in the 54-57k range on Sha of Anger if I don't get mind controlled...That's without multi-dot cheesing. It I put Nether Tempest on every add and player that was MC'ed, I'm not sure what my numbers would end up being...Probably >70k I'd guess.

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I need to lower my video settings even more before another sha raid.

even lowering to trilinear wasn't enough.

I think I'm going to up the priority on getting a GTX685 when its out, and getting a 2nd UPS.

my current UPS is overloaded anytime I'm in wow.
I have the following on it
1 Power supply of mt DL380G4
1 power supply of my 3745
my 2960G
my QNAP array.
my new server rack fan tray.
my Microcell
My KVM
my main computer monitor
my server monitor (its turned off so not really adding to the load.
and my computer.

and yesterday after adding my server rack fan try the load reached 1kw on the UPS, but before the fan tray it was in the mid to lower 900's.

I kinda fear without a 2nd UPS that upgrading to a GTX685 would put me even further over the overload point.

Luckily the router and server can balance their loads once their 2nd power supplies are connected.

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ilvl 441 Ele Shaman doing 30k in heroics. I generally fall below the other dps I'm randomly grouped with. Hell, the DK I was with this morning did 47K in Scarlet Halls, and when I asked him his ilvl he said 455..

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elemental shamans are shit dps now. i'm so pissed about that. now i HAVE to get a whole new set of gear to even be viable. i was rolling Resto MS/ Ele OS but it just doesn't cut.

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said by DarkLogix:

I need to lower my video settings even more before another sha raid.

even lowering to trilinear wasn't enough.

I think I'm going to up the priority on getting a GTX685 when its out, and getting a 2nd UPS.

my current UPS is overloaded anytime I'm in wow.
I have the following on it
1 Power supply of mt DL380G4
1 power supply of my 3745
my 2960G
my QNAP array.
my new server rack fan tray.
my Microcell
My KVM
my main computer monitor
my server monitor (its turned off so not really adding to the load.
and my computer.

and yesterday after adding my server rack fan try the load reached 1kw on the UPS, but before the fan tray it was in the mid to lower 900's.

I kinda fear without a 2nd UPS that upgrading to a GTX685 would put me even further over the overload point.

Luckily the router and server can balance their loads once their 2nd power supplies are connected.

That made me LOL out loud. Good thing I'm at home.

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said by mettachain:

elemental shamans are shit dps now.

compared to what? Ours still looks impressive... not mage-like impressive, but still quite good.

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compared to 14 other classes and specs. even noxxic.com has posted both theory and actual dps charts.

it's shit shit shit and not progression worthy

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okay... was hoping for something a little less rhetorical. lemme see....

edit: I'm not going to go through all of the theoretical dps, but it seems that in practice, they have been on "the low side" more often than not... but it doesn't look like it's total sh*t. Enhance is doing better, yes. If I limit the parses to only the top 100, Ele is still hanging in there. So I humbly disagree with the assessment overall. But if your raid is stacked with the powerhouse dps classes, I can definitely see your frustration.

reference: »www.raidbots.com/dpsbot/ ··· default/

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EDIT: dammit immer

I do find it interesting that they're up there in 10H. I looked at Feng my own self, because that is the least gimmicky DPS fight in there (excepting tanks), and their rankings were similar.

Also that destro locks are so bad there's not even a ranking for 25H :\

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yeah they're "hanging in there." but they are the bottom of the barrel dps. the 10H is likely an anomaly from your website. check back in another 14 days and see. your ele shaman can hang in there but didn't i read that he is now focused on a monk? right move there if he is.

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Wheres that panther er Tree?

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when i was playing more, there wasn't any time for alts. i'm on a crazy shift this week so i'm just leveling a monk right now.

My main faction is Horde and my monk is currently an 82 Mistweaver brother. I'll pick up the drood sometime soon...maybe....if I continue playing.
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there has to be some major cheesing going on in 25m heroic for com rogue to be 40% higher than all other specs.

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I think that translates to "Stone Guard".

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i think the most gains for a combat rogue would on stone guard and the spiritbinder troll boss down in the basement killing adds and stacking that ridiculous damage buff from being overhealed down there.