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bobvick
Premium
join:2008-04-01
Brilliant, AL

[Exede] Exede Install Scheduled..Some Questions

Hello,

I have an Exede install scheduled for Monday Oct. 29. I have a few questions about the install. One of the main ones is, what is the recommended maximum cable distance from the antenna to the modem?
I have a good pole mount already installed with an excellent southern exposure. I had used it in the past with a 90 cm Ku dish to get PBS off of Galaxy 15 at 125W.
Anyway, the cable run from that pole mount to my office where I plan to use the Exede is approximately 75-80 feet.
There is another way that I could get the modem closer to the dish, I can have the cable ran to my den and hook the modem to a wireless router, and from that wireless router, there is a Cat5e ethernet connection that runs about 55 or 60 feet from the router to my office and connects to a switch.
Alternatively, I think that I can see 115W good from a location in my yard right outside of my office (I will have to verify the location with my Dish Pointer app to be 100% sure) would it be better to have a pole mount put there and have the cable ran directly into my office rather than one of the other two ways?
I do not want the dish mounted on my house or on my roof, that is the reason for the instance on a pole mount.
Additionally, are there any specific things that I should be attentive to to insure that the technician that installs the system does a satisfactory job?
What would be considered good statistics for a good signal, so that I can check the modem before the installer leaves and make sure that the dish is peaked properly?
I will appreciate all of your comments and suggestions.
Thanks

Kaosfury

join:2011-06-27
Altavista, VA
130-150 ft is the max cable i will run.

leave the installer alone to do his work..... if you feel that you cant do that, ask for another installer.

all you need is to watch his laptop while the SVT tool runs (site validation tool) he gets all greens, he did his job.

and tip the guy $5 for his time.
Expand your moderator at work

bobvick
Premium
join:2008-04-01
Brilliant, AL
reply to Kaosfury

Re: [Exede] Exede Install Scheduled..Some Questions

I appreciate your response, however, if you are indicating that I will interfere with the installer, I think that you are off base in that regard.
I have been in the satellite hobby since about 1983 ~ 84. I used to install C/Ku-Band systems, not full time, but on the side back in the late 80's and early 90's.
I want to make sure that the entire system is peaked to maximum performance before the installer leaves.
I am not trying to be condescending to the installer, I just do not want to have to have someone come back in a week or a month to correct a problem that could have been prevented.

DrStrangLov

join:2012-03-28
kudos:1
said by bobvick:

I want to make sure that the entire system is peaked

There is a way to see the signal stats, and there is a proper way (in sequences) to peak dish, after installer is gone.

A high speed wind could shift the dish horizontally, btw

Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10
reply to bobvick
Is your existing pole a 2" schedule 40 steel pipe with 2" inner diameter and 2 3/8" outer diameter? Alternately it could be a 2" outer diameter with a thick wall. If it is some other size, then the installer probably will not have the appropriate adapter.
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway

Ukiah Jim

join:2011-04-21
Ukiah, CA
Yes......it might be a good idea to contact the installer before he comes out, tell him your situation with the pole, perhaps even confirm the exact outside diameter. If he needs to use an adapter, it has to a WildBlue approved adapter. If it's thick walled, 2" outside diameter, you should be good to go.

bobvick
Premium
join:2008-04-01
Brilliant, AL
It is 2 3/8'' OD, it is about 4.5-5' off the ground. I buried it about 3' deep and it is filled with concrete.
To get to my office from where that pole is mounted, it will take about 80'-100' of cable.
Would it be better to mount it closer to the office?
Like I said earlier, alternatively, I can locate the modem in my den, and run a Cat5e cable about 65'-70' to go from the router to a switch where the computers etc.. are.
I guess I will just wait and see what the installer wants to do.
One good thing about the pole that I already have is, it is located only about 10'-15' from my homes central grounding location, so to ground it would be easy.

bobvick
Premium
join:2008-04-01
Brilliant, AL
One other question that I forget to address, the installer that Exede sends out, is that a local installer? Or is it from a sub-contractor, kind of like DirecTV or Dish Network use now?


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
reply to Spice300
said by Spice300:

Alternately it could be a 2" outer diameter with a thick wall.

FFR, that's a Sch80 pipe. The regular wall is a Sch40. Any lesser pipe will wave in the wind.

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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
reply to bobvick
Hard tellin' where the installer will come from, it depends upon what kind of work they're registered for (with ViaSat/Exede). It's the luck of the draw as to what/who will show up.

As far as the location of the polemount, closer is better - to a point. Attached PDF says 150' is max, but it doesn't mention minimum. Field experience however, seems to have demonstrated that at least 25' of cable is typically required for acceptable service.

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Storm97
Premium
join:2003-04-14
Evanston, WY
said by grohgreg:

Hard tellin' where the installer will come from, it depends upon what kind of work they're registered for (with ViaSat/Exede). It's the luck of the draw as to what/who will show up.

As far as the location of the polemount, closer is better - to a point. Attached PDF says 150' is max, but it doesn't mention minimum. Field experience however, seems to have demonstrated that at least 25' of cable is typically required for acceptable service.

//greg//

Concur... We were doing the WB / Exede installs up until last year when Dish Network started picking them up in our DMA. As for the distance, even though max is listed as 150'; in practice I have found connectivity issues in anything past 100' and less than 20'.
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Spice300
Premium
join:2006-01-10
reply to bobvick
said by bobvick:

To get to my office from where that pole is mounted, it will take about 80'-100' of cable.
Would it be better to mount it closer to the office?

Because your cable length is within the specifications, it should be fine to run it to the office. Make sure the coaxial cable has a solid center conductor to minimize the cable resistance. It is best to have the modem near the computer which allows you to easily observe its status lights.
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Wildblue Value Pack, beam 31, Riverside gateway


grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief

join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
reply to bobvick
Understand that 100' to the pole doesn't mean it will take 100' of cable. Any deviation from a straight line adds cable feet. My dish and modem for example are about 85' apart as the crow flies. But it takes 110 feet of cable to make the connection.

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