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Simba7
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Billings, MT

reply to Anon

Re: I'm a criminal, huh?

Screw 'em. I'm allowed to make 1 copy. They said it themselves awhile ago.

MyDogHsFleas
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said by Simba7:

Screw 'em. I'm allowed to make 1 copy. They said it themselves awhile ago.

Source of this please? I'm interested.


dfrandin
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reply to MyDogHsFleas

Re: I'm a criminal, huh?

Frankly, I don't give a rats-ass what they say.. as long as the copy of the DVD is FOR MY FAMILIES USE and NOT TO GIVE AWAY OR SELL, I'm gonna keep copying.. It's called Civil Disobedience, some of you may have heard of it.. Its used to protest stupid unfair laws like THIS ONE.. Try it, you might like it.. Of course it DOES require a backbone, something which I fear is sorely lacking in a lot of today's American people...


Simba7
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reply to MyDogHsFleas

said by MyDogHsFleas:

Source of this please? I'm interested.

»www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html


Simba7
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reply to dfrandin

said by dfrandin:

It's called Civil Disobedience, some of you may have heard of it.. Its used to protest stupid unfair laws like THIS ONE.. Try it, you might like it.. Of course it DOES require a backbone, something which I fear is sorely lacking in a lot of today's American people...

Better be careful. They could invoke the Patriot Act and you'd be considered a "terrorist".

Welcome to communism.
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MyDogHsFleas
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reply to Simba7

said by Simba7:

said by MyDogHsFleas:

Source of this please? I'm interested.

»www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-digital.html

I'm afraid you are mistaken in your reading of this. It says you are legally allowed to make a backup copy of software for archival purposes, basically in case the original is damaged so that you can reinstall the licensed software.

It does not cover making backup/archival copies of audio/video content (video DVDs). In fact it says exactly the opposite:

quote:
This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.


MyDogHsFleas
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reply to dfrandin
What you are doing is not Civil Disobedience. The whole idea of Civil Disobedience is to openly violate a law in front of the authorities, and force them to deal with you, to effect change. Ripping/cracking DVDs in your house with no one watching is nothing like Civil Disobedience. Don't glorify what you are doing.

If you really want to "show backbone" and "protest", set up your DVD burner on a table outside the US Copyright Office, and do your thing.



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

said by MyDogHsFleas:

What you are doing is not Civil Disobedience. The whole idea of Civil Disobedience is to openly violate a law in front of the authorities, and force them to deal with you, to effect change. Ripping/cracking DVDs in your house with no one watching is nothing like Civil Disobedience. Don't glorify what you are doing.

If you really want to "show backbone" and "protest", set up your DVD burner on a table outside the US Copyright Office, and do your thing.

Agreed.


Sterling
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join:2003-05-30
Pittsburgh, PA

reply to MyDogHsFleas
So what your saying is that we should schedule a date for about a million people to head out downtown with there laptops and a collection of dvd and blanks, and opening use there jail-broken device.


HeadSpinning
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Windsor, ON
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reply to Simba7

said by Simba7:

Better be careful. They could invoke the Patriot Act and you'd be considered a "terrorist".

Welcome to communism.

Communism would be if the government takes all copyrighted material and gives it away to the public for free. Not sure what definition of communism you're using.
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Simba7
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join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

reply to MyDogHsFleas

said by MyDogHsFleas:

I'm afraid you are mistaken in your reading of this. It says you are legally allowed to make a backup copy of software for archival purposes, basically in case the original is damaged so that you can reinstall the licensed software.

It does not cover making backup/archival copies of audio/video content (video DVDs). In fact it says exactly the opposite:

quote:
This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.

Technically, a DVD is digital software running on a computerized device. Same can be said about Bluray due to Java applets being on the Bluray itself and players having the built-in Java software running it.
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AVD
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Onion, NJ
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said by Simba7:

said by MyDogHsFleas:

I'm afraid you are mistaken in your reading of this. It says you are legally allowed to make a backup copy of software for archival purposes, basically in case the original is damaged so that you can reinstall the licensed software.

It does not cover making backup/archival copies of audio/video content (video DVDs). In fact it says exactly the opposite:

quote:
This privilege extends only to computer programs and not to other types of works.

Technically, a DVD is digital software running on a computerized device. Same can be said about Bluray due to Java applets being on the Bluray itself and players having the built-in Java software running it.

pwoned
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kxrm

join:2002-07-18
Fort Worth, TX

reply to HeadSpinning
I think he meant Fascism or a dictatorship, true communism is quite the opposite.


kxrm

join:2002-07-18
Fort Worth, TX

reply to AVD

said by AVD:

pwoned

Wrong, DVD has no software on it, all it has is media which is then interpreted by a piece of software on the device. So in this situation you have the right to backup your firmware but not your DVD.


AVD
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said by kxrm:

said by AVD:

pwoned

Wrong, DVD has no software on it, all it has is media which is then interpreted by a piece of software on the device. So in this situation you have the right to backup your firmware but not your DVD.

funny, the disc can update the firmware, No?
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skeechan
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reply to MyDogHsFleas
Title 17 USC



skeechan
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reply to kxrm
It's a set of inputs which is then processed to make outputs...it's software.


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