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dfrandin
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reply to MyDogHsFleas

Re: I'm a criminal, huh?

Frankly, I don't give a rats-ass what they say.. as long as the copy of the DVD is FOR MY FAMILIES USE and NOT TO GIVE AWAY OR SELL, I'm gonna keep copying.. It's called Civil Disobedience, some of you may have heard of it.. Its used to protest stupid unfair laws like THIS ONE.. Try it, you might like it.. Of course it DOES require a backbone, something which I fear is sorely lacking in a lot of today's American people...


Simba7
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join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

said by dfrandin:

It's called Civil Disobedience, some of you may have heard of it.. Its used to protest stupid unfair laws like THIS ONE.. Try it, you might like it.. Of course it DOES require a backbone, something which I fear is sorely lacking in a lot of today's American people...

Better be careful. They could invoke the Patriot Act and you'd be considered a "terrorist".

Welcome to communism.
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MyDogHsFleas
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reply to dfrandin
What you are doing is not Civil Disobedience. The whole idea of Civil Disobedience is to openly violate a law in front of the authorities, and force them to deal with you, to effect change. Ripping/cracking DVDs in your house with no one watching is nothing like Civil Disobedience. Don't glorify what you are doing.

If you really want to "show backbone" and "protest", set up your DVD burner on a table outside the US Copyright Office, and do your thing.



PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

said by MyDogHsFleas:

What you are doing is not Civil Disobedience. The whole idea of Civil Disobedience is to openly violate a law in front of the authorities, and force them to deal with you, to effect change. Ripping/cracking DVDs in your house with no one watching is nothing like Civil Disobedience. Don't glorify what you are doing.

If you really want to "show backbone" and "protest", set up your DVD burner on a table outside the US Copyright Office, and do your thing.

Agreed.


Sterling
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join:2003-05-30
Pittsburgh, PA

reply to MyDogHsFleas
So what your saying is that we should schedule a date for about a million people to head out downtown with there laptops and a collection of dvd and blanks, and opening use there jail-broken device.


HeadSpinning
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Windsor, ON
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reply to Simba7

said by Simba7:

Better be careful. They could invoke the Patriot Act and you'd be considered a "terrorist".

Welcome to communism.

Communism would be if the government takes all copyrighted material and gives it away to the public for free. Not sure what definition of communism you're using.
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kxrm

join:2002-07-18
Fort Worth, TX

I think he meant Fascism or a dictatorship, true communism is quite the opposite.



battleop

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Communism is great until you add people. Then greed and laziness kicks in and it goes to he'll rather quickly.
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skeechan
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Ah, sounds like People's Democratic Republic of Kaul-ee-four-nya.



KrK
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reply to kxrm
See signature: Tell me the DMCA is not fascist in every way. It's the exact embodiment of this mentality. Government authority used for Corporate goals (Profit, money.)

Fascist country.
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CXM_Splicer
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reply to MyDogHsFleas
There are many definitions of 'civil disobedience' and one does not have to deal with the authorities in order for it to 'qualify'. Quietly ripping your DVDs when no one is looking wouldn't be civil disobedience but professing that you do it in a public forum would be. Sharing torrents is also a valid form of civil disobedience despite the fact that you are anonymous when doing it. Most would agree that the Boston Tea Party was an act of civil disobedience but they certainly didn't try to get caught.

Since you will not be arrested and, most likely, not even make the news there is no reason what so ever to set up your DVD burner table outside the copyright office. You would be much more effective in your civil disobedience by logically explaining to other people why the law is wrong and that you refuse to obey it.



jap
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reply to Simba7

said by Simba7:

Welcome to communism.

You are griping against evils of capital-as-king. Get it right.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

reply to dfrandin
Curious ... why do you need a copy? While I've had DVDs I burned go bad (some el-cheapo disks are really el-cheapo), I've never had a DVD go bad.

My kids have abused their XBox discs to the point where it won't read them. I went to the auto store and purchased some polishing compound and after a bit of elbow grease they work perfectly.

Is the copy so two can watch the same movie at the same time in different rooms?


HeadSpinning
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Windsor, ON
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reply to battleop

said by battleop:

Communism is great until you add people. Then greed and laziness kicks in and it goes to he'll rather quickly.

Sadly, all political systems suffer when you add people.
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NeoandGeo

join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN

reply to Simba7

said by Simba7:

said by dfrandin:

It's called Civil Disobedience, some of you may have heard of it.. Its used to protest stupid unfair laws like THIS ONE.. Try it, you might like it.. Of course it DOES require a backbone, something which I fear is sorely lacking in a lot of today's American people...

Better be careful. They could invoke the Patriot Act and you'd be considered a "terrorist".

Welcome to communism.

All movie watchers are suspected terrorists now, since they have the unskippable Dept. of Homeland Security slide in all movies now along with the FBI warning.


koitsu
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Mountain View, CA
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said by NeoandGeo:

All movie watchers are suspected terrorists now, since they have the unskippable Dept. of Homeland Security slide in all movies now along with the FBI warning.

...unless you back up your DVDs using one of many programs which let you remove UOPs.

...oh wait, can't back up our DVDs any more. *hurr*
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Krisnatharok
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Earth Orbit
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reply to HeadSpinning

said by HeadSpinning:

said by battleop:

Communism is great until you add people. Then greed and laziness kicks in and it goes to he'll rather quickly.

Sadly, all political systems suffer when you add people.

Yet Constitutional republics suffer the least, as safeguards are built in to protect the minority from the tyranny from the majority. Sadly, we have been careening towards a popular democracy for quite a while.
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bear73
Metnav... Fly The Unfriendly Skies
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join:2001-06-09
Grand Forks Afb, ND

reply to rradina
my kids have broken plenty of disks. can't buff them out when they decide to feed them to the toaster or watch the pretty sparks in hte microwave... (gonna kill that boy someday...)



Simba7
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join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT

said by bear73:

my kids have broken plenty of disks. can't buff them out when they decide to feed them to the toaster or watch the pretty sparks in hte microwave... (gonna kill that boy someday...)

Hahaha. Been there.. Still going through it.

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