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fartness
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Water by circuit breaker

I really hate being a home owner. Fucking hate it! It's been raining past few days, now it's time for a hurricaine. I see a small puddle of water below my circuit breaker box in my basement. I see a couple drips from the box itself. Small drips.

Looks like the water is coming in from where the meter is outside (and the line that goes from the meter to the circuit breaker box in my basement) is where the water must be coming from.

YES, I know it's dangerous. As long as I stay out of the basement for the next two days, will I be ok, or is there any electric shock risk if I use the bathtub on the 2nd floor or do other things?

I called power company, they said they couldn't do anything anyway but shut my power off if I wanted them to. Should I call a plumber or electrician?

Would homeowners insurance cover this? I have a $500 deductible but I already know I'm going to get bent over.


nunya
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What kind of cable is coming into the house? Is it conduit or SEU (oval gray cable)?

SUE is notorious for cracking and leading water into panels. Also, if the hole isn't properly sealed, water will follow the outside of the cable into the house.

Typically insurance would not cover something like this. The panel will need further examination before passing judgement.
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SuperNet9
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Did you take any Pics?


fartness
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SEU. It is exposed from the bottom of the meter into the ground. I was going to post a pic since I always see it when I cut the grass and I don't know if it should be exposed like that.

I have 5 sandbags I use for my pickup truck in the winter. I'll cover the ground with them, as long as it's ok for the sand bag to touch the SEU cable. Is it ok?

Any estimates on a cost to fix this?


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said by fartness:

SEU. It is exposed from the bottom of the meter into the ground.

You have exposed SEU Cable going from the bottom of the meter into the ground?


nunya
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Some places don't allow SEU anymore. It really shouldn't be in the dirt either. If the panel isn't damaged, it's probably not that expensive to replace the cable.

Personally, I'd use conduit.
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fartness
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Looks like it's in some sort of conduit, but the conduit stops short of the ground, and you can see the cable exposed a little bit. See pic. That weed or clover or whatever it is blocks it a little, but you can still see it going into the ground.

robbin
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That's your ground wire.


fartness
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I don't know what that is. But directly above that pole (not pictured) is the meter.

robbin
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Post a pic of the meter.


fartness
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Storm is picking up, I'll go outside tomorrow. I fixed it for you for now.

robbin
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I know where meter is. That's not the point. Post a pic of it when you can.

In the mean time, post a pic of the leak in your basement


fartness
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Didn't finish painting in that corner. You can see the drips of water on the bottom of the breaker box.

Hellrazor
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Yikes. That is a fugly panel.


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Call a sparky, he can check the weatherhead (if any) and check the condition of the cable. If you're lucky, he might only have to restore the duct seal where the cable enters the top of the meter pan.
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While you are waiting for the electrician to show up, you might want to park a dehumidifier (if you have one) in front of that panel. The leak probably isn't entirely new and damp panels will have problems. I had wet basement problems and had to replace a panel shortly after buying this place. The interim solution was to replace the panel, leave the covers off all thee panels and run a dehumidifier 7x24.

Tig

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Is your utility feed via a mast from the pole, or does your home have an underground service? Water may flow down the mast if the flashing is damaged. Or the top of the meter may need some caulking.


alkizmo

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I have a feeling that the line between the meter and the panel is directly through the wall, and not through that conduit going into the ground.

Does the elevation match? Or is the panel below ground level?

Speedy Petey

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You need a service change or upgrade. If you own there is no reason not to upgrade to 200A at this time.

Cost: $1200-$3500 depending on location and conditions.


fartness
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I already have a de-humidifier down there, and have had it there for the past ~2.5 years that I've lived here.