said by Nick D:Replying to a random post in this thread-within-a-thread:
Are we disagreeing that the social contract is "you roll your spec"? Or are we saying screw the social contract?
If we disagreeing ... well, we have differing opinions. But I'd argue that years of LFD and LFR have shown us MS > OS is pretty standard.
If we're saying "screw the contract", that's fine. Just accept that others will view you as a jerk. Maybe that matters to you, because you're like me and you prefer to that random people think of you as a "nice guy".
Maybe you take a view that "it's WoW, 5 mans are srs biz, and when am I ever going to see these guys anyways?", which is reasonable, but it doesn't mean that someone else doesn't see you as a jerk. It's just that it doesn't affect you.
You could argue that Blizzard threw the social contract out the window with the impersonal LFD/LFR match-making tools. Zero social interaction required--you get thrown in with a bunch of strangers and anyone can roll need on anything any spec of their class can use.
You may have your own personal "LFD morals", but what are you going to do when the pally tank takes that dps or healer trinket because his need role beat yours? How well do those morals work in a real world of needy strangers?
The whole purpose of LFD is to gear up for LFR, most people accept that--even if it means bag-stacking offspec gear or rolling on your offspec.
Your social contract was broken back in Cata. If you had to manually put a group together, travel to the instance, summon everyone, then clear, you have a stronger argument for enforcing ML or MS>OS, but the new LFD just means free loot split between you and four randoms.
How nice or mean you are to four completely random strangers is up to you, but the Golden Rule rarely works well when epics are on the line.