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<description><![CDATA[whizkid3 posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1754803" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1754803');">AsherN</a>:</said><p>How long are the pieces of PVC? 10 feet? 20 feet? You need to get up and down the ladder to hang a J hook every 4 feet or so. Then hang a piece of PVC, pull a string through, glue a joint, hang another piece, pull the string, and so forth.</p></div>I hate to say it but, this thread seems to be a good compilation of unskilled persons sharing incorrect advice with each other; at least some of it including advice that would not be code-compliant. The description of the job and how it will be carried out, sounds like a great opportunity for an unlicensed & uninsured 'contractor' to end up involved in a lawsuit or legal trouble. Not worth it, IMHO.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Hayward posted : Well really depends how over board you want to go and never have to deal with it again.<br><br>Really no reason for sheltered above ground conduit, unless you want to NEVER go to that extreme again.<br><small>--<br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[John Galt posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by Be Careful :</said><p>Do you not like icex?</p></div>Done installs like that in the same manner by myself many times... <br><br>Just gotta have a plan, that's all. ;)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:38:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1085764" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1085764');">John Galt</a>:</said><p>Not really...one person can do it, on a ladder, with a rotohammer.<br></p></div> Do you not like icex?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[John Galt posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1754803" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1754803');">AsherN</a>:</said><p>You'll need scafolding. 2 people need to be up, one at each end of the piece of conduit to hang it in J hooks. You don't want to be lifting lengths of PVC conduit by yourself 15' up on a stepladder. </p></div>Not really...one person can do it, on a ladder, with a rotohammer.<br><br> <div class="bquote"><p>How long are the pieces of PVC? 10 feet? 20 feet? You need to get up and down the ladder to hang a J hook every 4 feet or so. Then hang a piece of PVC, pull a string through, glue a joint, hang another piece, pull the string, and so forth. <br> </p></div>That's a good way to get the string glued into the pipe...<br><small>--<br>The most powerful weapon in the world is ignorance. Politicians exploit it to achieve almost anything they want. <br><br><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:02:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : We are using 10' sections of EMT conduit, but not using j  hooks, we are using straps and a back spacer to secure it.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://thegunnews.blogspot.com/">The Gun News Blog, the latest information on the firearm industry.</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 17:06:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[AsherN posted : You'll need scafolding. 2 people need to be up, one at each end of the piece of conduit to hang it in J hooks. You don't want to be lifting lengths of PVC conduit by yourself 15' up on a stepladder.<br><br>How long are the pieces of PVC? 10 feet? 20 feet? You need to get up and down the ladder to hang a J hook every 4 feet or so. Then hang a piece of PVC, pull a string through, glue a joint, hang another piece, pull the string, and so forth. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:30:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : There is hardly anyone in the shop, but I plan to have some tape to tape the area off and cones around the ladder.<br><br>ETA: The conduit will be around the back of the building, no one is around there. Just the wiring is done in the thirft store.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:44:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[hortnut posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1011763" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1011763');">icex</a>:</said><p>Yeah it will be a all day job. To beat it all its in the middle of a thrift store (the actual building the wires is going to is a law firm but she owns the whole building) <b>so I'll be working in the middle of people shopping.</b><br> </p></div>Will that not that add another layer of cost and time to complete the job?  Would assume that you would have to take steps to ensure that no shopper would run into your ladder.  Warning tape and other means that will have to be setup every time the ladder is moved?<br><br>Maybe a small item, but all the little things encountered in a job, can add up to to longer time to complete. <br><br>Also does that not add another layer of Liability, if some numb nut hit your helper, or the ladder or caused you to fall off the ladder or drop tools, conduit or ?.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:37:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : The wires go every which way, are spliced everywere and  eventualy end up punched down into a 66 block and then the 66 block is wired into the office jacks.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://thegunnews.blogspot.com/">The Gun News Blog, the latest information on the firearm industry.</a></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:48:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Walk away from the job you don't know what you are doing and may get yourself or your helper hurt!<br>If you reread all your post you should agree with this post!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[H_T_R_N posted : Slightly confused about what you are doing?  Are you running from the demarc to the 66 to feed the PBX or from the PBX to the phones?   Or do they not have any sort or PBX and you are running 5 individual lines to each of the 13 offices?<br><br>Is there no way to run inside?  Hanging 100' of con 15' in the air with a ladder is not something I would do.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1820444" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1820444');">bdnhsv</a>:</said><p>What do you think your time and your helper's time is worth, and how long do you think this is going to take you? If the customer isn't willing to pay you what you have to have to make a reasonable profit, then it isn't worth it to do the job. You've said you think you need a full day to terminate lines into the 66 block, and you have a lot of other work mentioned as well - so it sounds like it's maybe 2 days or more (but you'll have to figure out how many hours based on what you see when you look at the job site). Also, don't forget to figure out your costs for materials (conduit, brackets, cable, etc), and then determine how much you need to mark that up as well.<br> </p></div>The customer is supplying the conduit and brackets. I am thinking to hang the conduit up will take a few hours and then the terminations wil take the longest.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://thegunnews.blogspot.com/">The Gun News Blog, the latest information on the firearm industry.</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bdnhsv posted : What do you think your time and your helper's time is worth, and how long do you think this is going to take you? If the customer isn't willing to pay you what you have to have to make a reasonable profit, then it isn't worth it to do the job. You've said you think you need a full day to terminate lines into the 66 block, and you have a lot of other work mentioned as well - so it sounds like it's maybe 2 days or more (but you'll have to figure out how many hours based on what you see when you look at the job site). Also, don't forget to figure out your costs for materials (conduit, brackets, cable, etc), and then determine how much you need to mark that up as well.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : Yeah it will be a all day job. To beat it all its in the middle of a thrift store (the actual building the wires is going to is a law firm but she owns the whole building) so I'll be working in the middle of people shopping.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://thegunnews.blogspot.com/">The Gun News Blog, the latest information on the firearm industry.</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[LazMan posted : 52 terminations?  Say 5 mins per, plus some setup, say 4.5 hrs?  At my rate, that's about $350...<br><br>Just saw your post about being upside down in a ceiling...  $500 isn't out of line at all.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : Something I want to mention as well.<br><br>Their 66 block is mounted underneith their floor (2 story building) on the air duct so its going to involve standing on a ladder with my head in the ceiling upside down wiring it. So its probaly going to be all day wiring it.<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://thegunnews.blogspot.com/">The Gun News Blog, the latest information on the firearm industry.</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : Oh yeah I know. Do you think $500 is a fair price for terminating 4 lines 13 times on the 66 block, or is that too low or to hihg?<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://thegunnews.blogspot.com/">The Gun News Blog, the latest information on the firearm industry.</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[John Galt posted : Rough guess (based on many years of personal experience):<br><br>Run conduit = 4 hours<br><br>Pull wires = 2 hours<br><br>Termination = 2 hours<br><br>$40 per hour<br><small>--<br>The most powerful weapon in the world is ignorance. Politicians exploit it to achieve almost anything they want. <br><br><br><br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[LazMan posted : Time and materials...<br><br>100' of conduit, cable, and tying back into the existing isn't going to be quick...  Time is money!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : We have a 15 ft step ladder and I have a helper that will be helping. How much does scaffolding cost?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : There is no way the customer will pay $1500-2000 to do it. What is T&M by the way?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Drilling holes into concrete with a drill while standing on a ladder does not sound like a safe thing to be doing, you should get rolling Scaffolding, anything can happen if you fall off a ladder at any height.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[LazMan posted : I'd still go T&M on the job...  Sounds like maybe 2 days work, again, hard to say without seeing it.   Helper would make it go quicker...<br><br>Maybe 1500-2k?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : It's 1/2 inch PVC conduit, we'll be using a ladder for access.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[LazMan posted : Way too many variables to give a price based on what you've provided...  What size of conduit? EMT, PVC, or rigid?  How's access?  Ladders or lifts or ???<br><br>Also, tying new into old, I almost always go T&M...  Too many gotcha's otherwise.  <br><br>I bill out at 78/hr, another 45/hr if I need a helper for T & M jobs...  For adding new drops in commercial space, I charge 125 flat rate, assuming drop ceilings, and reasonable access...]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[icex posted : Sorry if this is the wrong forum, if it is move it to were it belongs please.<br><br>I am giving a quote to replace aging telephone wiring. It's starting to rot (been in the rain to long) and needs to be replaced. I will be hanging 100ft of conduit around the building to run the wires through. <br><br>First, what would you charge to run and hang the conduit 15 ft above ground? It will involve drilling a hole in the concrete, and then putting the clamp on with a concrete screw.<br><br>Second, what would you charge for wiring the 66 blocks? The inside lines are perfectly fine, its the outside wires that are being replaced. There are 5 phone lines in the building total (5th line is fax), 13 offices. I will basicaly be running the main cat5 line (plenum cabling) into the 66 blocks 13 times.<br><br>Thanks<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://thegunnews.blogspot.com/">The Gun News Blog, the latest information on the firearm industry.</a></small>]]></description>
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