| [CA] Cox blocking torrent sites... I've tried to access a few torrent sites, namely CGPeers and Torrent Crazy and all I get is the white wall of death. How can I verify that cox is either blocking these sites or specifically if they are blocking me from accessing them? I'm in the San Diego, East County region where they service. Can I call them and ask them directly if they are blocking these sites or me specifically? Anyone have these issues? |
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 odogCable Centric Vendor BiasedPremium,VIP
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Atlanta, GA
kudos:9 | torrent sites are always going up/down. try a different DNS provider, we might not have the updated DNS after the server was moved.(which they do very often) |
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| said by odog:torrent sites are always going up/down. try a different DNS provider, we might not have the updated DNS after the server was moved.(which they do very often)
Normally I would say this is the case. However, I'm able to access them on another network without issue. |
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odogCable Centric Vendor BiasedPremium,VIP
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said by Methadras:said by odog:torrent sites are always going up/down. try a different DNS provider, we might not have the updated DNS after the server was moved.(which they do very often)
Normally I would say this is the case. However, I'm able to access them on another network without issue. Did you try alternative DNS servers? |
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| I will try it tonight and get back to you. Alternate dns services like OpenDNS or Google DNS should do. |
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| both sites are responding to me on Google DNS and Cox DNS. |
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| said by AnonPhx :both sites are responding to me on Google DNS and Cox DNS.
Where are you located out of curiosity? |
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| reply to odog
Okay, i tried opendns and google dns and I still can't access those sites. I can access them elsewhere, but not here. How do I go about to see if cox is blocking my ip specifically? |
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1 edit | said by Methadras:Okay, i tried opendns and google dns and I still can't access those sites. I can access them elsewhere, but not here. How do I go about to see if cox is blocking my ip specifically?
did you ask them if your blocked via your cox ip? |
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odogCable Centric Vendor BiasedPremium,VIP
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Atlanta, GA
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said by Methadras:Okay, i tried opendns and google dns and I still can't access those sites. I can access them elsewhere, but not here. How do I go about to see if cox is blocking my ip specifically?
Highly unlikely and pretty much nearly impossible. When you check these sites "work" how are you doing it? Same computer connected to another ISP, or some other computer on another ISP? You may want to check the computers host file/table. I can't imagine malware would blackhole specific torrent sites, but that is the next most likely scenario if alternative DNS doesn't work. |
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| reply to Methadras
Have you done the normal, ping, tracert, etc. diagnostics first?
Have you checked www.torrentfreak.com to see if there is any news about certain torrent sites that are down? (just a news site about torrenting).
Have you checked your own system? Make sure the firewall is properly configured. Your HOSTS file isn't messed up. |
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I really don't think Cox is doing IP level blocking of anything (in fact, I haven't heard of any domestic consumer facing ISPs that do any kind of IP level blocking of public addresses.)
I don't think they are doing DNS blocking of anything either, though they DO have flaky DNS servers (I remember one time they had an entire day where DNS servers were down due to a routing loop, and routing loops are usually a pretty easy thing to find and fix; shouldn't take a whole day.)
There are even times when I have tried to reach a subdomain which at certain times of the day, Cox's DNS servers can't resolve, whereas other DNS servers can. Interestingly, Level 3's DNS servers can't resolve them either, and Cox's DNS servers are sourced from Level 3 (anycast address of 4.2.2.1, guessing mine resides in Arizona, so it may be different elsewhere.)
What you might be running into is DNS poisoning. It's possible that your gateway device (router as most people call it, though it's actually multiple devices in one) has an internal DNS server that has a poisoned cache, or even a poisoned hosts file.
Or worse, it's possible that your client machine has a poisoned hosts file. |
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 dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | reply to Methadras
said by Methadras:Okay, i tried opendns and google dns and I still can't access those sites. I can access them elsewhere, but not here. How do I go about to see if cox is blocking my ip specifically?
Maybe its not cox, maybe its the sites[common if you hit and run]
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| reply to odog
Highly unlikely and pretty much nearly impossible. When you check these sites "work" how are you doing it? Same computer connected to another ISP, or some other computer on another ISP? You may want to check the computers host file/table. I can't imagine malware would blackhole specific torrent sites, but that is the next most likely scenario if alternative DNS doesn't work.
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said by Rakeesh:I really don't think Cox is doing IP level blocking of anything (in fact, I haven't heard of any domestic consumer facing ISPs that do any kind of IP level blocking of public addresses.)
I don't think they are doing DNS blocking of anything either, though they DO have flaky DNS servers (I remember one time they had an entire day where DNS servers were down due to a routing loop, and routing loops are usually a pretty easy thing to find and fix; shouldn't take a whole day.)
There are even times when I have tried to reach a subdomain which at certain times of the day, Cox's DNS servers can't resolve, whereas other DNS servers can. Interestingly, Level 3's DNS servers can't resolve them either, and Cox's DNS servers are sourced from Level 3 (anycast address of 4.2.2.1, guessing mine resides in Arizona, so it may be different elsewhere.)
What you might be running into is DNS poisoning. It's possible that your gateway device (router as most people call it, though it's actually multiple devices in one) has an internal DNS server that has a poisoned cache, or even a poisoned hosts file.
Or worse, it's possible that your client machine has a poisoned hosts file.
I looked at my hosts file and nothing is in there relating to cgpeers.com or torrentcrazy.com. I can load cgpeers.com now due to hunting it being blocked by a malware program i have running, but i didn't know it was blocking it. However, torrentcrazy.com won't load even if I shut down all of my malware/AV apps. flushed dnscache. Not sure where to look at this point. |
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| I do not think the problem is because of Cox. I am getting DNS resolution on the site and I can see traffic being passed back and forth in Wireshark.
The page never does load in a web browser - this is the response I get from a telnet session:
HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 01:23:18 GMT
Server: Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS)
Content-Length: 311
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
400 Bad Request
Bad Request
<p>Your brows
sent a request that this server could not understand.
</p>
<hr>
Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at www.torrentcrazy.com Port 80
Connection to host lost.
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odogCable Centric Vendor BiasedPremium,VIP
join:2001-08-05
Atlanta, GA
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said by Rakeesh: and Cox's DNS servers are sourced from Level 3 (anycast address of 4.2.2.1, guessing mine resides in Arizona, so it may be different elsewhere.)
Not sure what you mean by that, but COX has it's own discrete DNS servers. L3 has anycasted DNS servers all over america in a few of their larger peering points/datacenters. |
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 skeechanAi OtsukaholicPremium
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kudos:2 | reply to Methadras
I have Cox in Orange County, CA and can't get to torrentcrazy.com either. But I also can't get to it through Clearwire. But downforeveryoneorjustme reports that it is up. CGPeers was down yesterday but I can get to it from Cox today. |
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