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<description><![CDATA[IowaCowboy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/723909" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=723909');">dennismurphy</a>:</said><p>Not all claims will count against you. <br><br>I had a claim for sump backup damage after Irene last year and my rate has not changed, and in fact, I still receive a Claim-Free Discount on my homeowners' policy. <br> </p></div>It also might depend on if the insurance company can subrogate with a third party (for example, if a faulty coffee maker that has been since recalled starts a fire and the insurance company pays the homeowner/tenant for the loss and then goes to recover the loss off the manufacturer). <br><br>I have been in many car accidents where I was NOT at fault and I filed a claim on my insurance and they go after the at fault driver's insurance. This process is known as subrogation. I live in a no-fault state so you have to file on your own insurance. <br><br>You cannot subrogate a weather loss since we cannot control the weather. As for your rates not going up, it depend on your contract with the insurer. Some will raise rates just for inquiring about whether to fie a claim (which I think the OP is worried about). <br><small>--<br>Romney-Ryan and Scott Brown are the Right Choice as they are Hope & Change you can count on.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dennismurphy posted : Not all claims will count against you. <br><br>I had a claim for sump backup damage after Irene last year and my rate has not changed, and in fact, I still receive a Claim-Free Discount on my homeowners' policy. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[IowaCowboy posted : I have had the same renters insurance (Traveler's) for almost ten years and I have a generous loss free credit that wards off any evil rate increases as I have been paying the same $16 per month since 2003. Insurance rates have gone up over the years with four hurricanes in Florida in 2004, the 2005 Hurricane season (hint: Katrina), the April 2011 tornadoes in the south, the Joplin tornado, the Springfield (MA) tornado, Irene, and now Sandy. These are all factored into the decision to raise rates for homeowners insurance as a whole. Check your insurance bill as you may have a loss free credit (which you may lose if you file a claim). I might have been able to recover lost food in the October snowstorm on my insurance but did not as it would give them an excuse to raise rates. <br><br>Several insurance companies decided to no longer underwrite insurance policies in Florida with it being the Sunshine (aka. Hurricane) state. It used to be difficult and expensive to get auto insurance in Massachusetts until some reforms at the state level kicked in. <br><br>When hurricane Andrew hit in Florida in 1992, I heard reports that insurance companies went bankrupt. I was only 8 years old at the time. <br><small>--<br>Romney-Ryan and Scott Brown are the Right Choice as they are Hope & Change you can count on.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bmilone2 posted : Insurance premiums are cyclical based on large payouts that hit the insurance carriers. Many times after a large natural disaster such Sandy you will find that within a year to 18 months afterward homeowner premium costs will go up. The insurance Carriers make a determination as to what percentage of increase is needed to replace the payout over a certain period of time. Once they make up their "losses" rates start to fall again. It happened that way after Katrina and a number of years before that when Florida had multiple storms.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[BronsCon posted : It looks like Sandy not only downed your tree, it upped your lawn!!]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[nonymous posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/811675" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=811675');">cdru</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p>You obviously don't know or have never had a substantial loss. The "pencil pusher" is actually a trained adjuster knowledgeable in the damage he or she is looking for.</p></div>Several years ago we had a hail storm that came through and required replacement of our roof and siding.  The claim was about $15k.  Not huge, but not trivial either.  I had to point out the hail damage on the roof, but once I did it was clear it was damaged.  It's not difficult to find stories on the internet of similar cases where a roofer or other contractor had to work with the adjustor to substantiate the claim.  Sure some of the cases I'm sure was the contractor was stretching things for their own benefit.  But I'm sure in many cases it was also things that that the adjustor didn't know, see, or catch.<br><br>In Indiana, the requirements for an adjustor are fairly basic and require about a week of classes.  I'm fairly confident that a week's worth of classes is not enough to learn everything there is to know about property damage.  <br><br>I'll stand by what I originally said.  <br> </p></div>I did decent on my roof from the hail damage. they couldn't question it as the whole street was getting their roof done as was a whole bunch of places in Phoenix metro. <br>They even did well on the cost. So little work for roofers at the time that when  this hit they jumped. Only issue we had was getting a real roofer. But since no rush as no leaks we found one and got in line. Local license and bonded not one that followed the storm. Though one out of another AZ town almost won us over. <br>Both were roofers though and not some other trade needing any work.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/811675" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=811675');">cdru</a>:</said><p>The adjustor typically works for the insurance company.  They have a vested interest in paying no more then absolutely necessary if they can.  Feel free to just do whatever they recommend. I'd still get a 2nd and/or 3rd opinions from someone who uses their hands to do more than just pick up a clipboard, pencil, paper, and a tape measure.<br> </p></div>That is not necessarily true. When the adjuster allows $3600 on a $4000 heat pump that's 8 years old he's not screwing the policyholder.<br><br>In the OP's case most adjusters are fully capable of making a determination. If not they will get expert opinions <br><br>I know from experience and don't share your negativism or this is the MO for cut rate companies. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cdru posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p>You could say the same about figuring the cost of replacing shingles on a roof. Like I said not rocket science and the cost of shingles and labor is well known by insurance companies.</p></div>My point wasn't at the estimating the cost of what it takes to fix a repair.  There are tables, formulas, and software not to mention experience to guide the adjuster there.  <br><br>In the OP's case, the pane of glass and the gutter are pretty easy to see.  The foundation may be a little harder.  But what caused the foundation to crack?  Was it compressive forces from the roof/wall down?  Or sheer forces from a side impact?  Was the footer damaged?  Structurally was the wall, joists, or rafters damaged?  Was any of the roof sheeting damaged but no outward signs of damage to the shingles? Was there water damage inside the wall?<br><br>The adjustor typically works for the insurance company.  They have a vested interest in paying no more then absolutely necessary if they can.  Feel free to just do whatever they recommend. I'd still get a 2nd and/or 3rd opinions from someone who uses their hands to do more than just pick up a clipboard, pencil, paper, and a tape measure.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Draiman posted : They could fly in people from other places to help handle the volume or because they know the process better so they can handle stuff better. No one really knows why but you can't assume it means they have any more experience then the next guy just as you can't discount it. They bring in power workers from 2-3 states away when stuff like that happens. Is it because those people are better or have more experience? Nope! They just need them for the higher volume to get stuff done faster. I wouldn't read into out of state workers personally.<br><small>--<br>IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : And I'll stand by my observation. When the company brings in an adjuster from Hawaii then he's no run of the mill pencil pusher.<br><br>As far as a roof it's a standard depending on size and type of shingles. Siding also. Not rocket science]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cdru posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p>You obviously don't know or have never had a substantial loss. The "pencil pusher" is actually a trained adjuster knowledgeable in the damage he or she is looking for.</p></div>Several years ago we had a hail storm that came through and required replacement of our roof and siding.  The claim was about $15k.  Not huge, but not trivial either.  I had to point out the hail damage on the roof, but once I did it was clear it was damaged.  It's not difficult to find stories on the internet of similar cases where a roofer or other contractor had to work with the adjustor to substantiate the claim.  Sure some of the cases I'm sure was the contractor was stretching things for their own benefit.  But I'm sure in many cases it was also things that that the adjustor didn't know, see, or catch.<br><br>In Indiana, the requirements for an adjustor are fairly basic and require about a week of classes.  I'm fairly confident that a week's worth of classes is not enough to learn everything there is to know about property damage.  <br><br>I'll stand by what I originally said.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[mityfowl posted : Two claims in 1 calender year got me bounced.<br><br>8 previous years with the same company and nary a claim before.<br><br>1 weather, 1 personal property (break in, robbed).]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[John_W posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/871781" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=871781');">nonymous</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/154241" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=154241');">John_W</a>:</said><p>Careful in MA.  Inquiries, for some reason count as claims.  Whether you actually get a check for the damage or not.  Two claims and they cancel your policy, and your stuck going on the state plan, which is expensive.<br><br>If it's close to your deductible, don't even cal them.<br> </p></div>Two claims in what period of time. I had half a roof replaced years ago. Then the full roof within the last couple years. Still have a policy at a decent rate. Now yes if it is close to the deductible I dont file a claim for small stuff. <br>My mom filed claims for everything and when we got POA her homeowners insurance price sucked big time. Still she was a proud long term customer and they paid her claims. Thing is her deductible and cost of the policy was ridiculous. Had a hard time re-insuring her at a semi normal cost. <br> </p></div>One person I work with had 2 claims  in 3 years when he was dropped. One was a major claim, 20K in fire damage, the other was not. Under 2k.<br><small>--<br><b><A HREF="/forum/disco">Team Discovery</a></b>--<b><A HREF="/forum/helix">BBR Team Helix</a></b>--<b>Cuz I Care!!</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[nonymous posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/154241" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=154241');">John_W</a>:</said><p>Careful in MA.  Inquiries, for some reason count as claims.  Whether you actually get a check for the damage or not.  Two claims and they cancel your policy, and your stuck going on the state plan, which is expensive.<br><br>If it's close to your deductible, don't even cal them.<br> </p></div>Two claims in what period of time. I had half a roof replaced years ago. Then the full roof within the last couple years. Still have a policy at a decent rate. Now yes if it is close to the deductible I dont file a claim for small stuff. <br>My mom filed claims for everything and when we got POA her homeowners insurance price sucked big time. Still she was a proud long term customer and they paid her claims. Thing is her deductible and cost of the policy was ridiculous. Had a hard time re-insuring her at a semi normal cost. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[leibold posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/154241" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=154241');">John_W</a>:</said><p>If it's close to your deductible, don't even cal them.</p></div>There is a difference between directly calling a claims or customer service department at an insurance company and calling your insurance broker/agent (who may not be an employee of the insurance company).<br><br>Ideally you have a trust relationship with your broker/agent so that you can contact him for advise when needed.<br><small>--<br>Got some spare cpu cycles ? Join <A HREF="/forum/helix"> Team Helix </a> or <A HREF="/forum/seti"> Team Starfire</a>!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dennismurphy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/business/governors-rulings-mean-lower-deductibles-for-storm-tossed-homeowners.html?partner=MYWAY&ei=5065">Governors Promote Lower Deductibles for Homeowners</a><br><br>That's fine but be prepared for big rate increases on your homeowners policies.<br><br>Are you positive your policy covers your fence? Better check as mine doesn't. <br> </p></div>Yes, it does cover fences. <br><br>As for the rate increase - it shouldn't because of the claim. <br><br>If you mean across-the-board hikes, that may happen, but it's not because I'd file a claim. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[John_W posted : Careful in MA.  Inquiries, for some reason count as claims.  Whether you actually get a check for the damage or not.  Two claims and they cancel your policy, and your stuck going on the state plan, which is expensive.<br><br>If it's close to your deductible, don't even cal them.<br><small>--<br><b><A HREF="/forum/disco">Team Discovery</a></b>--<b><A HREF="/forum/helix">BBR Team Helix</a></b>--<b>Cuz I Care!!</b></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Draiman posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p>Are you positive your policy covers your fence? Better check as mine doesn't.</p></div>Wind damage (act of god) is covered by my policy. I've had 3 different companies over the last decade and all 3 cover wind damage (act of god). 2 years ago I had a tree fall through the fence. They would have covered the clean up and fence repair but it came out about the price of my deductible so I opted to handle it myself. I'd be pissed if I got some cut rate insurance that didn't cover wind damage (act of god) to a fence!!!!<br><small>--<br>IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/723909" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=723909');">dennismurphy</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p><a href="http://apnews.myway.com//article/20121031/DA28OD100.html">After Sandy: Tips on filing home insurance claims</a><br><br>   <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>In addition, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island and 15 other states let insurers include deductibles in their homeowners' insurance policies in the event of a hurricane. Such deductibles vary from 1 percent to 5 percent of the insured value of the home. But each state makes its own determination on whether a storm will trigger those deductibles, so check with your state department of insurance to see if that will be a factor in your coverage.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Mine now is 1 percent but some have 5 percent. Depends on your insurance company and your relationship with it.<br> </p></div>I can't speak for any other state, but here in NJ, the Department of Bankig and Insurance declared this a 'post-tropical cyclone' storm, and therefore, hurricane deductibles are not applicable by law. <br><br>That's great news - my standard deductible is $1,000, but hurricane is over $10k. <br><br>The only damage I sustained is my fencing all the way around the yard. The rear fence has missing panels now - it's mostly destroyed - and both side fences are leaning / wavy / broken. <br><br>I'm thinking it's claim time.  I'm not heartbroken - they're ugly, so I'd like to replace them with a nice vinyl fence. If SF will help pay for that, all the better. <br> </p></div><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/01/business/governors-rulings-mean-lower-deductibles-for-storm-tossed-homeowners.html?partner=MYWAY&ei=5065">Governors Promote Lower Deductibles for Homeowners</a><br><br>That's fine but be prepared for big rate increases on your homeowners policies.<br><br>Are you positive your policy covers your fence? Better check as mine doesn't. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/811675" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=811675');">cdru</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/550034" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=550034');">Coma</a>:</said><p>            <br>The insurance company isn't going to do shit cause it'll cost them money. <br><br>I'd suggest you to get a couple of contractors over to give you an idea of any issues they may see.</p></div>The adjustor will have to look at it, but I would never trust a pencil pusher to evaluate the structural soundness.  The adjustor rates about the same as a home inspector...they are able to see glaring issues and <i>might</i> find a slightly concealed issue, but aren't going to find the hidden stuff that will bite you down the road.<br> </p></div>You obviously don't know or have never had a substantial loss. The "pencil pusher" is actually a trained adjuster knowledgeable in the damage he or she is looking for.<br><br>After Isabel the adjuster for the flood insurance company came from Hawaii and knew what he was doing.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[dennismurphy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1506715" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1506715');">Jack_in_VA</a>:</said><p><a href="http://apnews.myway.com//article/20121031/DA28OD100.html">After Sandy: Tips on filing home insurance claims</a><br><br>  <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>In addition, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island and 15 other states let insurers include deductibles in their homeowners' insurance policies in the event of a hurricane. Such deductibles vary from 1 percent to 5 percent of the insured value of the home. But each state makes its own determination on whether a storm will trigger those deductibles, so check with your state department of insurance to see if that will be a factor in your coverage.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Mine now is 1 percent but some have 5 percent. Depends on your insurance company and your relationship with it.<br> </p></div>I can't speak for any other state, but here in NJ, the Department of Bankig and Insurance declared this a 'post-tropical cyclone' storm, and therefore, hurricane deductibles are not applicable by law. <br><br>That's great news - my standard deductible is $1,000, but hurricane is over $10k. <br><br>The only damage I sustained is my fencing all the way around the yard. The rear fence has missing panels now - it's mostly destroyed - and both side fences are leaning / wavy / broken. <br><br>I'm thinking it's claim time.  I'm not heartbroken - they're ugly, so I'd like to replace them with a nice vinyl fence. If SF will help pay for that, all the better. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[cdru posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/550034" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=550034');">Coma</a>:</said><p>            <br>The insurance company isn't going to do shit cause it'll cost them money. <br><br>I'd suggest you to get a couple of contractors over to give you an idea of any issues they may see.</p></div>The adjustor will have to look at it, but I would never trust a pencil pusher to evaluate the structural soundness.  The adjustor rates about the same as a home inspector...they are able to see glaring issues and <i>might</i> find a slightly concealed issue, but aren't going to find the hidden stuff that will bite you down the road.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Coma posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/855243" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=855243');">Dexter</a>:</said><p>The problem is.. I have no idea if there's any hidden structural damage. To be safe  (and cover my a$$ should something come up in the future) I called my agent. The insurance company will send someone out to inspect things. Obviously I'm not going to go through with a claim unless they find something substantial.<br> </p></div>            <br>The insurance company isn't going to do shit cause it'll cost them money. <br><br>I'd suggest you to get a couple of contractors over to give you an idea of any issues they may see.<br>                 <br><small>--<br><i>November is National Epilepsy Month</i></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Dexter posted : The problem is.. I have no idea if there's any hidden structural damage. To be safe  (and cover my a$$ should something come up in the future) I called my agent. The insurance company will send someone out to inspect things. Obviously I'm not going to go through with a claim unless they find something substantial.<br><br>The city did remove the tree at no cost to me. I've got a friend with an excavator that will come & rip the stump out, the root system obviously isn't very substantial. We had a stump ground a few years ago that left a big mushy spot in my lawn, so I'd rather get it out of there.<br><br>I appreciate all the responses!<br><small>--<br><A HREF="http://www.pbase.com/rew9">My Pbase Gallery</a></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Draiman posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1606394" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1606394');">Msradell</a>:</said><p>Another advantage to filing a claim is that since the tree did hit your house homeowners insurance will also cover his removal.  If it didn't hit the house they wouldn't.  Just that cost should more than cover your deductible so everything else will be repaired without additional costs to you.  <br> </p></div>The tree removal cost doesn't factor into the deductible as they said <b>"The city took care of the tree"</b> and only left the stump to deal with though. Given the actual damage the OP said needs to be fixed they will be hard pressed to recover any of their $500 deductible. I had a similar stump removed this year. It cost me $300 and they also removed 3 other smaller stumps and a row of bushes at the same time for that. The stump removal if it's the OP's responsibility should be $200-250, lawn repair maybe $50-75, and the gutter repair maybe $100-150. If there's any structural damage that would make it worth using insurance though.<br><small>--<br>IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes!</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Grumpy posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/571743" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=571743');">Boricua65</a>:</said><p>I know this <ahref=http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/buyerguide2004/get-clue.asp<a>article</a> is a little old but it might be relevant today about C.L.U.E. (comprehensive loss underwriting exchange.  Unfortunately, I couldn't find any details if you don't file a claim if you are still marked in the C.L.U.E. database.<br> </p></div>My wife backed her brand new car into a fixed object. I called the insurance carrier and asked 20 questions, but filed no claim. I popped the dent out myself when I discovered access the the backside was easy. <br><br>A few weeks later I checked CLUE. They listed a $0 claim for my one phone call. Don't know exactly how that impacts coverage or future rates, but I would have been OK if it wasn't there. One $0 claim is likely of no consequence, but if additional CLUE entries had occurred later on, the $0 claim could perhaps have had numeric significance to an actuarial review. <br><br>Lets just say that after thirty years of commercial haz mat transport fleet management, insurance companies are not my best friends. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[wth posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/809009" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=809009');">tcope</a>:</said><p>You may want to have a contractor inspect the damage first and let you know. This way you'd know what you are looking at before you called your carrier. So far it looks to be a stump removal, some grass and your gutter. Probably close to your $500 deductible. <br> </p></div>+1<br>Roof trusses in attic need a good look and call the city, as that tree stump looks very close to the street and may well be in the cities right of way, which may make it their responsibility to remove, and not yours.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1606394" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1606394');">Msradell</a>:</said><p>Another advantage to filing a claim is that since the tree did hit your house homeowners insurance will also cover his removal.  If it didn't hit the house they wouldn't.  Just that cost should more than cover your deductible so everything else will be repaired without additional costs to you.  <br> </p></div>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r27680540-">Re: File a homeowner's claim or not?</A><br><br>Not exactly. I have friends that the Homeowners only removed the part of the trees actually impacting the house leaving the rest to them. They actually had the tree companies cut them 2 or 3 ft off the roof and that was it. After Isabel my homeowners was very liberal but would not pay to take care of the fallen trees.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[tcope posted : You may want to have a contractor inspect the damage first and let you know. This way you'd know what you are looking at before you called your carrier. So far it looks to be a stump removal, some grass and your gutter. Probably close to your $500 deductible. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Msradell posted : Another advantage to filing a claim is that since the tree did hit your house homeowners insurance will also cover his removal.  If it didn't hit the house they wouldn't.  Just that cost should more than cover your deductible so everything else will be repaired without additional costs to you.  ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1269402" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1269402');">battleop</a>:</said><p>If your rates sky rocket it's going to happen even if you don't contact them.  If the rates go up it's going to be an increase for everyone in your area as a group and not on an individual basis. <br> </p></div>+1 Exactly the case]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[battleop posted : If your rates sky rocket it's going to happen even if you don't contact them.  If the rates go up it's going to be an increase for everyone in your area as a group and not on an individual basis. <br><small>--<br>I do not, have not, and will not work for AT&T/Comcast/Verizon/Charter or similar sized company.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Boricua65 posted : I know this <ahref=http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/buyerguide2004/get-clue.asp<a>article</a> is a little old but it might be relevant today about C.L.U.E. (comprehensive loss underwriting exchange.  Unfortunately, I couldn't find any details if you don't file a claim if you are still marked in the C.L.U.E. database.<br><small>--<br>Illegal aliens have always been a problem in the United States. Ask any Indian. Robert Orben<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/235641" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=235641');">mityfowl</a>:</said><p>I can't even afford a $1000 deductible policy anymore.<br><br>They have forced everyone in Texas to take a 1%, 2% or more % deductible through pricing.<br> </p></div>Our deductibles are standard unless it's a hurricane but Homeowners is getting very expensive and Flood Insurance is even worse.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <a href="http://apnews.myway.com//article/20121031/DA28OD100.html">After Sandy: Tips on filing home insurance claims</a><br><br> <BLOCKQUOTE><SMALL>quote:</SMALL><HR>In addition, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island and 15 other states let insurers include deductibles in their homeowners' insurance policies in the event of a hurricane. Such deductibles vary from 1 percent to 5 percent of the insured value of the home. But each state makes its own determination on whether a storm will trigger those deductibles, so check with your state department of insurance to see if that will be a factor in your coverage.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><br><br>Mine now is 1 percent but some have 5 percent. Depends on your insurance company and your relationship with it.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/216677" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=216677');">8744675</a>:</said><p>Insurance companies have taken a bath with Katrina and more recent events.  They're very touchy about claims.  At one point I read they were dropping people who even inquired about filing a claim.<br><br>Your $500 deductible will probably cover the cost of fixing the gutter and removing the stump.  I'd save the claim for when you really need it, like when the house burns down or the roof blows off. <br> </p></div>They are not touchy. They just pick an area and not renew any of their policyholders or raise the premiums for all policyholders. Not just the ones who had a loss from a Katrina, Isabel, Irene etc. Allstate and Farm Bureau are doing that here now.<br><br>Insurance will fix the house but not remove the stump. Friends have been there done that. One friend had 4 pine trees on his house after Isabel and they paid to cut the trees off the house at the house and left the rest. They fixed the roof framing and replaced all the shingles. His rates did not go up but he was stuck with the cost of removing the remainder of the trees and grinding the stumps.<br><br>Insurance premiums will not go up or discounts cancelled because of these type claims.<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="/forum/r27679757-">Re: File a homeowner's claim or not?</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[KrK posted : Having experienced minor damage during a windstorm that I just fixed myself, I would just go that route.  By all means check carefully for any serious damage,  but it sounds like the damage may be less then it's worth to file the claim.<br><br>How much did it cost to remove the tree?  That could be a factor in your decision.<br><small>--<br>"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini<br></small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[workablob posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/216677" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=216677');">8744675</a>:</said><p>Insurance companies have taken a bath with Katrina and more recent events.  They're very touchy about claims.  At one point I read they were dropping people who even inquired about filing a claim.<br><br>Your $500 deductible will probably cover the cost of fixing the gutter and removing the stump.  I'd save the claim for when you really need it, like when the house burns down or the roof blows off. <br> </p></div>True that.<br><br>We filed late on IKE and were denied by Allstate.<br><br>We took them to arbitration and what would have cost them 6,000 cost them 42,000.<br><br>But, I guess most people roll over so it pays to deny a lot of claims.<br><br>Dave<br><small>--<br>I may have been born yesterday. But it wasn't at night.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[bTU posted : I'm not sure on the insurance laws in your area so I can not comment on if your rates would go up from one claim ever, though I highly doubt it given that it's weather related.  Now you may see a raise in premiums that everyone in your area would also see, but that would be regardless if you filed one or not.<br><br>I'd do it even if the damage is less than your deductible.  Like others said, the contractor or insurance's adjustor might find some damage you can't see at this moment and it's better to have the claim in now so it can all be covered on the same storm damage claim.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[8744675 posted : Insurance companies have taken a bath with Katrina and more recent events.  They're very touchy about claims.  At one point I read they were dropping people who even inquired about filing a claim.<br><br>Your $500 deductible will probably cover the cost of fixing the gutter and removing the stump.  I'd save the claim for when you really need it, like when the house burns down or the roof blows off. ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Jack_in_VA posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1833617" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1833617');">Draiman</a>:</said><p>They won't raise your rate but you might lose a discount. I get a 10% annual discount for no claims in the last 5 years. I wouldn't put in a claim unless it was going to cost over $1,000 to fix. It can't hurt to call them and ask though.<br> </p></div>My discounts never changed after Isabel and Irene claims. Act of god loss]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Draiman posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/235641" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=235641');">mityfowl</a>:</said><p><div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1833617" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1833617');">Draiman</a>:</said><p>They won't raise your rate but you might lose a discount. I get a 10% annual discount for no claims in the last 5 years. I wouldn't put in a claim unless it was going to cost over $1,000 to fix. It can't hurt to call them and ask though.<br> </p></div>Once you call it's on the record.  Think 1st.<br> </p></div>Like all insurance there's no negative impact unless they PAY on the claim. They might exclude the damaged area from coverage until you prove it's fixed if they don't pay the claim as well but that's all they can do. Personally I'd get a quote and handle it myself.<br><small>--<br>IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:41:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[mityfowl posted : <div class="bquote"><said>said by <a href="/profile/1833617" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1833617');">Draiman</a>:</said><p>They won't raise your rate but you might lose a discount. I get a 10% annual discount for no claims in the last 5 years. I wouldn't put in a claim unless it was going to cost over $1,000 to fix. It can't hurt to call them and ask though.<br> </p></div>Once you call it's on the record.  Think 1st.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:32:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[ropeguru posted : Given that you see very little damage and you did not have to pay for the tree removal, which can be expensive, I would say call them and see what they have to say. They may be able to provide some recommendations on a specialist to come over a survey any possible structural damage since you stated the tree landed on the porch.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:32:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Draiman posted : They won't raise your rate but you might lose a discount. I get a 10% annual discount for no claims in the last 5 years. I wouldn't put in a claim unless it was going to cost over $1,000 to fix. It can't hurt to call them and ask though.<br><small>--<br>IF YOU FIND ANY MISTAKES IN MY WORK...Please consider that they are there for a purpose. I try to please everyone and there is always someone looking for mistakes!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:25:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[leibold posted : Pay attention to the reporting deadlines in your policy for events leading to a possible claim. Don't wait until you know for sure that there was substantial hidden damage.<br><br>You should definitely preserve your rights by notifying your insurance company about the fallen tree. You can mention that you would like to get your home inspected for structural damage but I'm not sure whether the insurance company would pay for an independent inspection (ask your insurance agent).<br><small>--<br>Got some spare cpu cycles ? Join <A HREF="/forum/helix"> Team Helix </a> or <A HREF="/forum/seti"> Team Starfire</a>!</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:24:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Grumpy posted : If your <b>local agent*</b> is user friendly, ask them to visit the damage site to discuss the issue without opening a claim file. A good agent will not only be helpful, but should explain in detail what your options are, before any claim would find it's way to the CLUE database, even as a $0 claim entry. <br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="https://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs26-CLUE.htm" >www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs26-CLUE.htm</A><br><br>To blurt the obvious - having a current copy of your policy at hand would help them figure out your options so they don't have to retrieve it themselves. Wind damage and associated deductibles and coverage can be tricky and often specific coverage is offered ala carte to the insured as a separate issue within some homeowner's  policies. <br><br>Forgive me for poking the hive, but policies vary widely by state, and are at their core - steeped in contract law. It is difficult at best for anyone but a rep of your carrier to advise you on anything beyond very basic info. I don't see how anyone can tell you what your future rates or other issues will be beyond MA state insurance law, and full knowledge of your specific policy. <br><br>I'm not trying to be controversial, just practical. <br><br>*If you call the carrier's 800 number / headquarters, a CLUE entry is likely to result, even as a $0 claim. The rep who answers the phone will want to know the details of your call, and will open a "file" on the call.  Been there. Got a CLUE recording as a result even though I filed no claim and asked for no coverage. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:22:34 EDT</pubDate>
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