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reply to OZO

Re: [WIN8] Biggest reinvention ever?

said by OZO:

said by dave:

Maybe, but perhaps the desktop computer is dying and Microsoft is positioning itself for future viability?

May be it is ... but only in the eyes of the beholder (MS in this case). Do you think a tablet with tiles and apps, occupying whole screen, is better to do your job (programming) than current multi-windows environment, where you can change size and positions of all windows on the screen(s) to organize your work, type your input with good ol' keyboard and point precisely on a position in the screen without using your fingers? Make me laugh and tell me that you think so

And there is a lot of other uses of desktops in business (and home) environments that need that old UI. Moving desktop OS to a tablet paradigm is not revolutionary in any way. It's rather a step back, it's an oversimplification of UI, tossing away best ideas and approaches in UI, that were accumulated during the past decade (or even more). The classic windows UI does the job and does it efficiently (if it's not, usually it's because you don't know how to make so with the offered toolkit)... The new push is to move that environment back into oversimplified paradigm.

To me it looks like MS voluntarily wants to yield its dominance on desktop software market to other OS's. Fortunately we have other (and multiple) choices now...

Not to mention the New Windows UI (AKA Metro) is actually one of the few interfaces that will run on tablet devices that actually has a multitask (more then one app on the screen at a time) option. So for example, iOS doesn’t have anything like “snap”,….......yet.

reply to RazzyW8
Yeah, I don't get these clueless comments either. People opining on things of which they have no idea.

My wife use W8 with no problem and she's been exposed to it for only a day.

This may be difficult for OZO to understand, but I'm going to lay out the highly complex steps my wife takes to use Win8 for her internet browsing from when the screen is blanked.

1. Hit ESC to show the login screen and type in password
2. Click on the Dektop box (if it wasn't already in Desktop).
3. Proceed as normal.

It's a tough procedure for which there will likely be endless tech support and calls required, since only one or two are so incredibly sophisticated enough to understand the complexity of Win 8. No doubt this is a calamity in the works. But I'm sure in the end that we'll all pull through just fine.

That being said, it gets really tough when she needs to use Word. I'll continue the tutorial from where I left off.

1. Hit the Windows button to bring up the Start page.
2. Click on the Word tile.
3. Proceed as normal.

Mind boggling stuff.
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I guess we'll have to sue Mother Nature now for voter suppression. Vote Romney/Ryan 2012 and end the stupidity.

It kind of proves a point when you say your wife can do this and you're speaking on her behalf. That is exactly the point being made here by some. Everything about W8 user-interface is over-simplified.

My opinion comes from running RC on a primary partition for two months.

SD

I find it ironic that all these people complaining about dumbed-down user interfaces are pointing to the Windows user interface as an example of a not-dumbed-down user interface.

Here is a user interface that does not insult your intelligence.

reply to Goober

We don't have a single touch device in the house (other than for non-Windows tabs). No one seems to have much of an issue at home with Windows 8 and keyboard and mouse control. The problem really only lies with all the IT experts around here. The normal user will get used to it with no problem--at least my user base ranging in age from 10 to 43 has and it's only been a few days.

Personally, all this angst seems manufactured to me. I perceive it more as a "Crap, I'm not the expert with Win 8. Whoa is me if I can't puff my chest out anymore as the Windows maven." All the self-called IT experts are the ones that fear change and forward movement. It's like the heavy-glassed nerds are losing control. Regular users struggle a bit, learn what they need and then move on with their lives. It happens all the time. Bitching and moaning by the "experts" while the regular users just march on.
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I guess we'll have to sue Mother Nature now for voter suppression. Vote Romney/Ryan 2012 and end the stupidity.