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eeeaddict
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Cheapest GIGABIT colo?

For a small side project I want to host a server but need an unmetered gigabit connection for a collocated 4u server, what would the cheapest price to expect in Canada be? (BTW It doesn't need to be premium or dedicated bandwidth just the cheapest unmetered gig possible

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If you want cheap, unmetered I'd see if Cogent is doing colo in Toronto - notice I didn't say stable or reliable. They do colo type services in many markets - just not familiar with their Toronto colo.

If you want reliable, well connected, fast etc then there are many players in that market - we provide this as well based on our colo near Peterborough, ON

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You can get a 1gbit unmetered connection from either cogent or HE for around $1/mbit at 151 Front Street. Just pay someone to colo the server and to provide you with a cross connect to the MMR.
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Depending on what you're doing and if you're willing to sacrifice Colo and instead get a dedicated box you can get 300mbit/s for 150$/month at OHV canada. Four of those boxes would possibly still be cheaper than cogent and they come with 6TB disk per unit.
Or, at the very least, if you need to prove your concept, this would provide a cheap way of doing it.

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eeeaddict
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the problem is the potential client refuses to host in the USA
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said by eeeaddict:

the problem is the potential client refuses to host in the USA

Smart for a bunch of reasons.

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said by DSL_Ricer:

Depending on what you're doing and if you're willing to sacrifice Colo and instead get a dedicated box you can get 300mbit/s for 150$/month at OHV canada. Four of those boxes would possibly still be cheaper than cogent and they come with 6TB disk per unit.
Or, at the very least, if you need to prove your concept, this would provide a cheap way of doing it.

+1 for OVH Canada.

The other possible option might be »iweb.ca
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Iweb does not do gigabit on colo, and their bandwith rates for colo are very high, I would not recommend.

You can ask at netelligent.ca, their colo rates are fairly affordable, and I had 0 issue with them on my dedicated servers with them. Not sure if they offer gigabit ports... I am thinking of installing a colo server there myself.

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Not canada but most of the places I know of are going to be crazy expensive for unmeetered gigabit on co-location. You can find quite a few that are unmeetered or almost effectively unmeetered when you re dealing with a dedicated server but colo is a different story.

The only provider I know that has unmeetered gigabit for co-location on the cheap is in the U.S. and that is FDC servers. You can colo a 4u box with 1 gbit unmeetered for ~$400/month with them. You can get it in chicago which might not be too bad for Canada.

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One of which is probably to get around the law..
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said by battleop:

One of which is probably to get around the law..

Huh?
A smart Canadian business would host here to avoid the precipitous actions of US authorities, the expense of any actions in the US, and might be prohibited by stature or professional best practices from hosting outside Canadian jurisdiction.

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iWeb certainly does do gigabit colo. You get a neutral half-rack for $399, which includes a free cross-connect to the meet-me room. You then contract your bandwidth directly with any provider you want, which includes Videotron, Tata/Teleglobe, MTO, Cogent, FibreNoire, Peer1, Level3, Deutsche Telekon, etc.

I don't know if Cogent does the buck-a-meg deal in Montreal, but if they do, that would be $1400 a month for a half rack (22U), 15 amps, and a gigabit unmetered.

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said by Guspaz:

iWeb certainly does do gigabit colo. You get a neutral half-rack for $399, which includes a free cross-connect to the meet-me room. You then contract your bandwidth directly with any provider you want, which includes Videotron, Tata/Teleglobe, MTO, Cogent, FibreNoire, Peer1, Level3, Deutsche Telekon, etc.

I don't know if Cogent does the buck-a-meg deal in Montreal, but if they do, that would be $1400 a month for a half rack (22U), 15 amps, and a gigabit unmetered.

I'm sure Hurricane (he.net) will get very low on pricing for connectivity there.

Thanks for backing up my post though.

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A smart Canadian business would not look for colo braised solely on price.
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said by battleop:

A smart Canadian business would not look for colo braised solely on price.

That's your assumption.

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Besides, even a smart business can afford to rely on cheap bandwidth and colo if they design their system around the assumption that stuff will go down.

Example: you've got an application which has a bulk data component. You build all your application and database and load balancing and command & control servers on one or more cloud platforms that enable you to survive downtime of any individual node or datacenter, and then you get a bunch of really cheap bandwidth in a few different locations. If one of the cheap bandwidth sources has issues, you just cut it out of the loop. If all of them have issues, you serve the content from higher cost sources.

Building reliable systems has very little to do with the reliability of the underlying providers, and everything to do with building reliable systems that can tolerate failure.
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If I were you, I'd give a call to OVH and get a quote about a server in their new Beauharnois,Qc datacenter...

»www.ovh.com/ca/en/

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its a redundant backup server so it will most likely never be used thats why cheap is the key word

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"it will most likely never be used"

Ask companies in the north east about how that plan of action works out.

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The difference is that companies like CallCentric and Gawker didn't HAVE a backup server, let alone one on a cheap transit provider.

In Gawker's case, they just deserve any hardship caused (a company who gets 100% of their revenue from their website has no backups from their website). Companies like CallCentric should be the subject of massive lawsuits for gross incompetence. They didn't even have backup POWER, they should never have been allowed to operate a telephone company like that, but sadly there's no regulation against complete idiots running a telephone company.

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REDUNDANT BACKUP! You don't need to be so cocky, It is a backup of a backup so its an N+1 type of setup it is much lower capacity than the main backup

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said by Guspaz:

there's no regulation against complete idiots running a telephone company.



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said by twizlar:

You can get a 1gbit unmetered connection from either cogent or HE for around $1/mbit at 151 Front Street. Just pay someone to colo the server and to provide you with a cross connect to the MMR.

1000$ for a ggiabit? WAAAAT

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1000$ for a ggiabit? WAAAAT

Pretty easy to do actually -- with any carrier.

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there's no regulation against complete idiots running a telephone company.



Mike

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there's no regulation against complete idiots running a telephone company.



BELL CANADA

there fixed it for ya LOL
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said by Guspaz:

They didn't even have backup POWER, they should never have been allowed to operate a telephone company like that, but sadly there's no regulation against complete idiots running a telephone company.

Depends on what type of telephone company you are talking about. With POTS classified as an essential service, I doubt anyone selling POTS or legally POTS-equivalent services in Canada would get away with that.

CallCentric, FPL, voip.ms, etc. are VoIP sold with few to no service guarantees since your service can get disrupted by multiple factors beyond the VoIP provider's control. Many ISPs that offer bundled and internally supported VoIP only (fully) support their VoIP service when used with ISP-provided router and ATA so they can remotely manage and troubleshoot the devices.

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REDUNDANT BACKUP! You don't need to be so cocky, It is a backup of a backup so its an N+1 type of setup it is much lower capacity than the main backup

If it's a backup of a backup, do you really need gigabit access, or can it be more of a trickle service at 10 or 100Mbit?

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If it's really a backup you'd normally just want something like a GigE interface with a small commit, and you just pay the higher per-meg rate if your backup is ever needed.