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Re: [Internet] Bell charging for wireless "intranet" uWhere are you viewing the camera from? If you need a port forward that implies you are coming from outside of your LAN which would certainly be internet traffic. If you are inside your LAN then why do you need a port forward?
It sounds like you are viewing this camera over the internet and as such are streaming a lot of data as an upload of your modem's point of view. |
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levity
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2012-Nov-1 2:55 pm
said by bigddybn:Where are you viewing the camera from? If you need a port forward that implies you are coming from outside of your LAN which would certainly be internet traffic. If you are inside your LAN then why do you need a port forward? Hi Nokia, I setup port forwarding to allow the possibility of accessing the camera from the internet, but was careful not to use internet access except to test the connection. I was aware of the bandwidth issue. What was open frequently and may have been left open was the intranet address. It may be that just setting up portforwarding on this modem triggers any traffic to be counted as internet usage for my account. |
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2012-Nov-2 10:51 am
Port forwarding your camera basically opened up your firewall... now all the bots probing IP address ranges know your IP is "live" because they are getting a response on the port you are forwarding... not a smart move.
Basically you had all your doors and windows locked before port forwarding and now you left one window wide open with the light on for all the baddies out there to come peep through... they might not have video access to your cam , yet, but they know there is a device responding.
Turn off your port forwarding and educate yourself on firewalls and Internet security...
You are probably getting probed up the yinyang from the sounds of it Cartman... |
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If he has 51Gigabytes/day, it would be surprising that the ports are only probed. He should check for some trojan, his cam might be controlled from someone else on the internet. It's also surprising that a vga cam, even if running 24/7 would consume 51Gigabytes of downloads in 1 day.
At vga resolution, his security cam would consume roughly 400MB/hour or 9.3Gigabytes/day. |
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2012-Nov-2 3:16 pm
You don't believe it possible that 5 bots or persons could already be streaming video from the cam?
Or maybe the cam's embedded web server server has a well known vulnerability, or default admin/password, and there is other software running on it relaying spam to the masses? |
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said by glussier:If he has 51Gigabytes/day, it would be surprising that the ports are only probed. He should check for some trojan, his cam might be controlled from someone else on the internet. It's also surprising that a vga cam, even if running 24/7 would consume 51Gigabytes of downloads in 1 day.
At vga resolution, his security cam would consume roughly 400MB/hour or 9.3Gigabytes/day.
After I removed the camera connection and turned it off, the gb uploads stopped. The uploads were 9gb then 51gb and then 46gb until I turned off the camera. Bell does not want to talk to me about usage until the billing cycle ends (in a couple of days). So I will experiment with this again when I have some bandwidth cushion and some time to work on it. I have filed a complaint with the CRTC. And there is the CCTS -- I have not yet filed with them. I use Outpost Firewall Pro, have MS Essentials and check regularly for spyware/trojans with antivirus and antispyware software. And my Windows 7 machine is uptodate with MS updates. Richard |
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Wow. This thread smacks of ignorance piled upon misunderstanding.
Most probably you were mislead by the tier 1 support and billing. Although, I suspect part of this was you wanting to hear what you said you were told.
I hope your indignation fuels enough outrage that you get away with overages for streaming your webcam over the internet. |
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I don't want to be blunt, but, the problem is not Bell, it is the camera configuration which was not done properly by you, the user.
Now, you filed a complain with the CRTC for a problem that you created, not Bell.
How many times and in how many threads, will it have to be repeated, that Bell doesn't charge and does not compile intranet bandwidth?
I think that in this case, the user should eat his socks, pay the extra bandwidth (max $80.00, I believe) and learn from his mistake. |
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levity
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2012-Nov-4 2:06 pm
said by glussier:I don't want to be blunt, but, the problem is not Bell, it is the camera configuration which was not done properly by you, the user.
Now, you filed a complain with the CRTC for a problem that you created, not Bell.
How many times and in how many threads, will it have to be repeated, that Bell doesn't charge and does not compile intranet bandwidth?
I think that in this case, the user should eat his socks, pay the extra bandwidth (max $80.00, I believe) and learn from his mistake.
I will check my camera setup again in a couple of days and let you know how it pans out. |
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said by glussier:I don't want to be blunt, but, the problem is not Bell, it is the camera configuration which was not done properly by you, the user.
CSR said to Customer: Both Bell Level 1 tech and the billing department confirmed that my internet usage charge comes from activity recorded by the modem (Sagemcom Fast2864) and that despite the activity being "intranet" not "internet", their charges are valid. The billing department staff stated that if the connection to the camera had been via ethernet cable instead of wireless, apparently I would not be charged.
So if this is not the problem of customer but a problem of Bell laying to his customer another time. If Bell don't count intranet bandwidth (and we all know they don't) Why CSR keep saying this? and I hear it myself over phone. This is where the real problem Begin. With that kind of answer, the customer try to find a solution based on the fact that Intranet is counting toward bandwith alotement. This one have comme to DSLR so he wonKt buy another router like planned before, but how many don't know DSLR and will buy a new router has a solution? In this case the best solution is to go to a better ISP that has real Customer Service. |
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Before accusing Bell, I would like to see a recording of that support call. I'm not saying the op is lying, just that there could be misunderstandings. |
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You are right that this maybe a misunderstandings. but with current reputation of Bell on this forum and on general population I would think it's true. |
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