Topic 'Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st' in forum 'Rogers' - dslreports.com

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Fri, 18 Jan 2013 10:00:04 EDT

resa1983 posted : Justin, do you have the Glasnost tests to back that up? Because Rogers' site says they've removed throttle for all areas in Ontario as of Dec 14, 2012..

»www.rogers.com/web/content/netwo···nagement

quote:
Rogers Network Management Policy
Applicable to Rogers Hi-Speed Internet customers in Ontario, New Brunswick, and Newfoundland
Effective December 14, 2012 Rogers has completed our phase out of the management of peer-to-peer (P2P) traffic on our network.
1. Why does Rogers manage traffic on its network?
Rogers is committed to ensuring the best possible online experience for all our valued customers.
2. How Does Rogers manage its network?
Rogers uses a variety of network management techniques. These techniques have evolved as the Internet has changed. We continue to manage the network to limit spam, viruses and other security threats.

If you have Glasnost data showing that, you should be doing an ITMP complaint for non-compliance - Rogers's site is showing there's no throttle... I'd also love to see this, as Steve @ OpenMedia was asking me about this.
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Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:34:59 EDT

jmck posted : they are still throttling in some areas (Ottawa) and even mention they are still throttling on their new packages in certain areas (notice the triple *).

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Wed, 16 Jan 2013 10:38:32 EDT

resa1983 posted :

said by funny:

said by Aaerox:

So I just got this message injected from Rogers tonight.
[att=1]
I currently have the higher upload speeds of 7 Mbps. Does this mean rogers will downgrade my upload speeds to 4 Mbps?

someone needs to sue rogers to stop managing of p2p file sharing protocols as they can be used legally and as the "Comes" case said its up to the user to visit an infringing link.
OH and effectively all data being moved is technically a p2p system.

that in a nut shell says its not rogers duty to do this and if they can afford to give tons a people upgrades they didnt ask for how about giving full speeds across the board 1st and HONOR your contract.

this is why i will never ever go with any rogers service.

You must've missed it, but they announced in March last year that they'd kill all throttling by end of year (last year) - this was to get out from under my CRTC complaint which resulted in the Enforcements Division going after Rogers over & over finding more & more non-compliance..

If they're still throttling, do some tests, and hand me the info.. I'll start up another complaint.
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Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Tue, 15 Jan 2013 17:42:17 EDT

funny posted :

said by Aaerox:

So I just got this message injected from Rogers tonight.
[att=1]
I currently have the higher upload speeds of 7 Mbps. Does this mean rogers will downgrade my upload speeds to 4 Mbps?

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 12:49:42 EDT

jfilip posted : Rebooting my modem just now got me the faster (Extreme Plus) upstream in Kitchener near downtown:

[att=1]

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:18:19 EDT

clementlo posted : I am on Extreme... my upload speed still 1 MB and hasn't upgrade yet... I guess I have to wait till December 1 before I can call and ask?

I am in Scarborough, near McCowan and Steeles area.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:03:35 EDT

technocar2 posted : Basically there are two kinds of congestion on docsis.

One is the usual type, where there is 304mbps on the node and too many people are online and everyone gets slow speed.

The second kind of congestion is temporal. Meaning your modem is not online all the time. Its only online for a fraction of a second per second. And its in this fraction of a second that a modem can upload stuff. The more modems there are the smaller this fraction of second becomes; this is know as the time slot. This is what makes the upload to max of 10mbps because it takes a fraction of a second to upload 10mb vs 108mb will take 1 whole second with 4 channels. 10mb with 4 channel takes only a fraction of a second.

How it works is a node can only receive data from one modem at a time. Therefore the node listens to each modem for only a fraction of second and in that fraction of a second the modem can upload whatever it wants but since its only a fraction of a second its limited to 10mbps or whatever the time slot duration is based on the # of modems.

If the node only listened to just one modem then the modem can upload stuff for the full 1 second (so 108mbps) but since there a more than one modem, none of the modems gets 1 full second, they each get a fraction of a second to upload and this is repeated every second. This is pretty much a modem congestion, the more modems there are the smaller the time slot is for each modem and thus a lower upload speed per modem.

Think of it this way, you can only upload as much as the node is willing to listen to you. If the node wants to listen to you for 1 full second then its 108mbps. If the node wants to listen to your modem for 5/54 of a second then its 10mbps and the rest of the remaining bit of that second the node will listen to other modems.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:39:25 EDT

elitefx posted :

said by eeeaddict:

personally I think that unless the "more powerful" node isn't much cheaper they would be better off spending any upgrade money on ftth

Yea, you would have to know exactly how Rogers distributes the internet to determine exactly how many MAIN nodes would need to be upgraded to avoid smaller/neighborhood node congestion. It may be a far less expensive upgrade than than rewiring the whole network with fiber and see us well into the next generation of Docsis 3.1 and beyond..........Aint got a clue but I'm sure it's worth a consideration.

We have to get to a point where node congestion is no longer a factor..........

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:52:09 EDT

eeeaddict posted : personally I think that unless the "more powerful" node isn't much cheaper they would be better off spending any upgrade money on ftth :D
remember more than 50 down and 10 up is useless for most people, and upgrading cable to handle more than that for everyone would be adding more to everyones bill while only people like us would see any benefit.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:37:51 EDT

elitefx posted :

said by technocar2:

250/125 would be unrealistic if a node only has about 304/108 shared by 400-500 houses with possibly 50% or more subs with TPIA, which gives around 250+ modems and a ton of e-MTAs as well (RHP).

Thanks for the info. Don't get the node congestion thing though.

I think in terms of electricity. High voltage transformed down in steps to household current. Why can't Rogers just double/triple their output to each node so there's more than enough for each household to use at max speed simultaneously? OR, why can't they use bigger more powerful nodes?

As far as 250/125 goes I was just throwing it out there. Seems a waste to have a modem @300/150 theoretical topping out at 150/10...........

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:47:39 EDT

technocar2 posted :

said by eeeaddict:

Is it really that small? (304)
If it is because of only 8 channels I thought they would have more than 8 available, also when SDV helps free things up what max speeds will there be then?

I pretty sure it 8 channels for now. But like you said they can free some channel and use them for docsis if they wanted to and increase the max speed.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:40:58 EDT

eeeaddict posted : Is it really that small? (304)
If it is because of only 8 channels I thought they would have more than 8 available, also when SDV helps free things up what max speeds will there be then?

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:34:20 EDT

technocar2 posted : 250/125 would be unrealistic if a node only has about 304/108 shared by 400-500 houses with possibly 50% or more subs with TPIA, which gives around 250+ modems and a ton of e-MTAs as well (RHP).

Lets consider upload speed first.
250+ modems have to share 108mbps as of now. Rogers used to sell at 7% of total node upload speed for the highest tier (which meant 2mbps because only 1 upload channel of 27mbps). Now with 108mbps (4 up channels) they have a ~10% rate, with means 10mbps for the highest tier. If rogers didn't maintain this rate YOU would be first person here to complain about "slow speed" and "degraded internet experience". Trust me its absolutely necessary to have this low rate because each modem gets a very very very small time slot to upload stuff to the node. If said modem wanted to upload at 108mbps that would take too much of the time slot hence other modems won't get upload time slots in a timely manner, then people would whine and complain of "slow speeds" and "super high latency". If there was only one modem on the node then and only then would 108mbps upload would be feasible because that one modem can have all time slots. As more modems and e-MTAs come online each modem's time slot gets smaller and smaller. Hence rogers has to maintain a 7-10% ratio. Until you learn how docsis works you will NEVER be able to appreciate what rogers is trying to accomplish here.

Now lets look at download speed.
250+ modems have to share 304mbps. Let say I get that 250mpbs tier and I want to download at 250mbps and I fire up my torrent client and set up my connections to 1000 connection and I'm able to get 300 seeds and downloading at 250mbps for let say a 15GB distro on a private tracker. Everything is fine, in fact its sunny outside and its a Tuesday afternoon thus no other modem noticed that one modem hogged 82% of the node because hardly anyone was using their internet.

Now what happens if I did the same thing on Friday/Saturday/Sunday evening when everyone is using their internet. If one modem get 250mbps then the rest only get 54mbps, that won't happen because of QoS since my 250mbps will go down to 100-150mbps as 200mbps will be used by other modems. Thus rogers has to maintain 150mbps because anything higher will degrade performance for the higher tiers during peak time. It all comes down to, if I'm paying for 250mbps then I want 250mbps 24/7 but that can't happen but 150mbps can happen 24/7 more often then not. Thus 150mbps it is!

Again, until you learn how all this works you will never appreciate docsis for what its worth.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:31:31 EDT

elitefx posted :

said by Ree:

Just "downgraded" from 75/2 to 45/4

IMHO 75/2, 75/10, 150/10 are for multi user households and that 1% that truly need all that ethernet horsepower......... don't know why Rogers doesn't offer a 250/125 tier that maxes out these theoretical 300/150mbps 8x4 D3 Gateways.

Apparently, Rogers states in their latest CRTC submission that 2/3's of their residential internet customers are still using D2 modems with corresponding D2 speed packages. Go figure............

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sat, 17 Nov 2012 10:51:28 EDT

Ree posted : Looks like new speeds are active in Brantford now too. Just "downgraded" from 75/2 to 45/4

[att=1]

Live chat says no 45/7 yet though :(

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:29:53 EDT

anon posted :

said by ViSkY:

Hi,

For those who went from 32/7 to 45/7, what is your current cap? 150gb? 170gb?

I contacted Rogers through live chat a few days ago and asked why am I on 45/4 and not 45/7 like others and they said its a whole new package for $5 more and extra 20gb.

There are 6 different package for Extreme Plus. For 45/7 with 150 GB you would need to have WHUK added.

Package: Extreme Plus
Price: $71.99
D/L: 45 Mbps
U/L: 4 Mbps
Allowance: 150 GB
Code: W25A

Package: Extreme Plus with HU
Price: $71.99
D/L: 45 Mbps
U/L: 7 Mbps
Allowance: 150 GB
Code: WHUK

Package: Extreme Plus with 20 GB UA
Price: $76.99
D/L: 45 Mbps
U/L: 4 Mbps
Allowance: 170 GB
Code: WUAP

Package: Extreme Plus with HU and 20 GB UA
Price: $76.99
D/L: 45 Mbps
U/L: 7 Mbps
Allowance: 170 GB
Code: WUAV

Package: Extreme Plus with 80 GB UA
Price: $91.99
D/L: 45 Mbps
U/L: 4 Mbps
Allowance: 230 GB
Code: WUAI

Package: Extreme Plus with HU and 80 GB UA
Price: $91.99
D/L: 45 Mbps
U/L: 7 Mbps
Allowance: 230 GB
Code: WUAU

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Fri, 16 Nov 2012 00:03:30 EDT

elitefx posted :

said by dvn:

Geez. Here's my 75/2 in waterloo.

Rogers probably will be tweaking the system over the next little while. My Express is a bit low on the download but the upload is a massive improvement. Can't complain.

Been following the Teksavvy forum and they're in a world of hurt over there. Regular Outages everywhere. Rough go if you need rock solid Internet.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:50:02 EDT

aibojk posted : 45/7 150GB

»www.speedtest.net/result/2310861174.png

said by ViSkY:

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:42:47 EDT

dvn posted :

said by madzor :

said by elitefx:

said by BarrieAnon :

Just restarted the modem and got the new speeds in Barrie.

Thanks. Rebooting just got me the new speeds in London.

Same here in Kitchener tonight (extreme plus):

Geez. Here's my 75/2 in waterloo.

[att=1]

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:02:19 EDT

anon posted : nothing yet in waterloo :(

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:51:02 EDT

ViSkY posted : Hi,

For those who went from 32/7 to 45/7, what is your current cap? 150gb? 170gb?

I contacted Rogers through live chat a few days ago and asked why am I on 45/4 and not 45/7 like others and they said its a whole new package for $5 more and extra 20gb.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:34:39 EDT

anon posted :

said by elitefx:

said by BarrieAnon :

Just restarted the modem and got the new speeds in Barrie.

Thanks. Rebooting just got me the new speeds in London.

Same here in Kitchener tonight (extreme plus):
[att=1]

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:46:16 EDT

dvn posted : Just called rogers to see if I could get my 75/2 plan updated to 75/10 and was told Kitchener/Waterloo wasn't scheduled to get these upgrades? Is that correct and I'm stuck with 2 up? I guess I'll have to wait til dec 1st...

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:20:20 EDT

elitefx posted :

said by BarrieAnon :

Just restarted the modem and got the new speeds in Barrie.

Thanks. Rebooting just got me the new speeds in London.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 20:02:27 EDT

resa1983 posted :

said by fspilot:

I'm on Extreme Plus with the 32Mbps download and 7Mbps upload speeds. I called Rogers to see if my upload speeds would be lowered to 4Mbps with the new 45Mbps download speed on Dec 1st. The CSR indicated to me that my speeds won't be changing to the new download/upload speeds. I will be keeping the current speeds as a 'grandfathered' package. If I want to take advantage of the new 45Mbps download speeds I would be then lowered to the 4Mbps upload speed.

Or not... Called tonight, and asked about the "HU" code, and was told it was available where I'm moving, and that I can get the boost from 4mbps to 7mbps if I asked for it, for free. Definitely not being grandfathered.
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Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:17:01 EDT

anon posted : Just restarted the modem and got the new speeds in Barrie.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:56:58 EDT

matradley posted : My area (Alta Vista and Industrial in Ottawa) must be congested or going through a change. I am able to get close to the new 4mbit profile, but my download profile is swinging wildly between 20 and 32mbits.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:58:43 EDT

eeeaddict posted : there isn't pricing info because it is free (though what happens if you go over?)

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:15:46 EDT

fspilot posted : Got mine upgraded to 45/7 from 32/7 in Scarborough.

[att=1]

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:32:44 EDT

spaz posted : Got my spedz in Guelph today

[att=1]

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:56:34 EDT

yyzlhr posted : 4mbps is the regular tier available to everyone. Those who live in areas that are compatible with higher upstream tiers and have those product codes on their account will get 7mbps with extreme plus.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:50:51 EDT

Dones posted :

said by ubi21:

I got upgraded to 45/7 from 32/7. I'm in the Thornhill area.

[att=1]

Aren't you suppose to get 4mbps not 7?

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:44:28 EDT

ubi21 posted : I got upgraded to 45/7 from 32/7. I'm in the Thornhill area.

[att=1]

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:56:18 EDT

hurleyp posted :

said by jasmo34:

Do you only have a "Docsis 2" modem?

Good question! Yes, I have a vintage 2004 SB5100 SURFboard modem, DOCSIS 2 only. If I want more than simple speed boost, I guess I'll have to shell out for a DOCSIS 3 modem.
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Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:40:14 EDT

jasmo34 posted : Do you only have a "Docsis 2" modem?

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:18:27 EDT

hurleyp posted : I took a closer look at what Rogers injected into my browser last week, and it seems that my Extreme plan is only getting a "SpeedBoost" upgrade. Better than nothing, I guess, but nothing special. :huh:
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Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 08 Nov 2012 05:51:04 EDT

BliZZardX posted :

said by bt:

They've also listed a new tier: "Ultimate Fibre". 250Mbps symmetrical, with a 500GB cap.

When you click it they make you fill out a ridiculous CAPTCHA. Rogers fiber is years behind Shaw and 4x slower (Shaw is doing 1/1Gbps), not available where I live in downtown Toronto (what else is new?), cap is too low and they made no pricing info available. Even if it was available, what's with the 500GB cap? Pass.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 08 Nov 2012 05:40:53 EDT

BliZZardX posted :

said by kerron :

I really don't get the point of increasing speeds if you don't increase caps...probably should move to bell, better download speeds, way better upload speeds, no p2p throttling, and bigger caps. All for 10 bucks more =/

Yup that's been my argument for a year. All Rogers plans are overpriced and outdated. Lite is particularly pathetic because you can't even Skype properly with 256kbps anymore.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Thu, 08 Nov 2012 04:24:28 EDT

anon posted : I really don't get the point of increasing speeds if you don't increase caps...probably should move to bell, better download speeds, way better upload speeds, no p2p throttling, and bigger caps. All for 10 bucks more =/

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:05:55 EDT

fspilot posted : Did anyone on the 32/7 extreme plus speeds get an upgrade to 45/7 yet?

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:28:42 EDT

c2roth posted :

said by Beermage :

Just changed my plan to the new Atlantic (Not available in Ontario) Extreme package:

- $51.99/month ($10 cheaper then the old plan)
- 30 Mbps download speed
- 10 Mbps upload speed
- 500 GB usage allowance

Nice cap and speeds. See what competition from Bell Aliant's FTTH does...!

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:20:38 EDT

anon posted : Just changed my plan to the new Atlantic (Not available in Ontario) Extreme package:

- $51.99/month ($10 cheaper then the old plan)
- 30 Mbps download speed
- 10 Mbps upload speed
- 500 GB usage allowance

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Wed, 07 Nov 2012 10:13:02 EDT

bt posted : All of the plans are officially live on the Rogers website. Other than "Old" Ultimate, which is still listed as 75/2 in the fine print for the "New" Ultimate.

They've also listed a new tier: "Ultimate Fibre". 250Mbps symmetrical, with a 500GB cap.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 22:57:02 EDT

trafsta posted : So, uh, do you just call Rogers and ask for the higher upload speeds? What does it cost? Is there an official Rogers page that gives details on all of this? I'm on the "300GB Hi-Speed Express" package and had a DOCSIS 2 modem up until a few days ago, so I was getting max 12mbit download and 0.5mbit upload... now with the DOCSIS 3 modem I am still only getting these same speeds so I suspect I need to either wait a bit longer or I need to call Rogers to get 18mbit speeds that I should be getting... but once the new speeds kick in on Nov 14th/Dec 1st it would be awesome to be able to upgrade from the 2mbit speeds that Express users get to 3mbit... Heck I'm paying $68.99 for this 300GB package (minus 80% off for 24 months) so I think maybe I should just switch to Extreme Plus for $71.99 ($3 more, and of course 80% off of that) and then just learn to live with 150GB instead of 300GB and I'll get 45 Mbps Down / 4 Mbps Up... and I would then be very interested in seeing what it would cost to 'upgrade' the upload speeds to 7mbit... hmmm. Any additional info that you guys can give on the upload upgrades would be appreciated :)

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:59:57 EDT

zacsaunders posted : I believe he meant 3 for express 5 for extreme and 7 for extreme plus..

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 16:54:24 EDT

Dones posted :

said by Rogers TSR :

Higher upload is also still available, 3/5/7 Mbps startng at Express in order.

You can option higher upload speeds??? So I can get express 25Mbps with 7Mbps upload speed?

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 14:57:52 EDT

LondonDave posted : This is great. I called in today and tried to get my old ultimate upload increased and was told no dice.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:26:41 EDT

anon posted : Official packages (and they're supposed to take affect Nov 14th not Dec 1st so if you call in you may be able to get them early.

Lite - 6 Mbps Down / 256 Kbps Up - 20GB - $38.49
Express - 25 Mbps Down / 2 Mbps Up - 80GB - $48.99
Extreme - 35 Mbps Down / 3 Mbps Up - 120GB - $61.99
Extreme Plus - 45 Mbps Down / 4 Mbps Up - 150GB - $71.99
Old Ultimate - 75 Mbps Down / 10 Mbps Up - 250GB - $99.9
New Ultimate - 150 Mbps Down / 10 Mbps Up - 250GB - $122.99 (not available in all areas)

Also keep in mind new speedboost of the first 20/30/50 MB insted of the first 10 for Extreme and up Inclusive (old & new ultimate both get 50)

Higher upload is also still available, 3/5/7 Mbps startng at Express in order.

Usage assurance is express and up, $5 for 20 GB and $20 for 80 GB.

Multiple IP addresses are $9.95 per month and require a D3 modem bridged. (the 9.95 gives upto 4 IPs in total)

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 12:03:45 EDT

technocar2 posted : Hell, even blocking the IP of the server injecting these messages will not do any good. Because when you block that IP it will simply block all http pages from loading because that server will keep hijacking your pages and inject them with messages until it can successfully inject it and gets acknowledgement of it, which will never happen because you blocked that IP therefore you end up in a never-ending loop and no http page will load. Only way yo stop them is to use a encrypted connection. VPN for example.

Re: [Extreme Plus] New Speeds Effective December 1st

Sun, 04 Nov 2012 07:00:15 EDT

Ree posted :

said by J E F F:

said by hurleyp:

I received a similar message this morning for my Extreme speed-boost. I was surprised to see this injected message as I do not use the Rogers DNS servers. :uhh:

That is interesting, isn't it? I use a DNS service for my MLBTV, HuluPlus and Netflix without issue, yet I still seem to be calling home to crappy Rogers.

Injecting content into your HTTP sessions has nothing to do with DNS. Switching DNS providers only prevents them from sending you to that (completely useless) search result page when you request an invalid domain name.