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| Apple fans complaining about no LTE? It's kind of ironic that Apple fans are complaining that this phone lacks LTE when the iPhone didn't get LTE until a year and half after it became standard.
From what I've heard, there is no LTE because then the phone would become carrier controlled, as with the Verizon and Sprint Galaxy Nexus, and Google would be forced to compromise. Also, there is no way you are going to be able to sell an LTE phone for $300 unlocked, and Google seems to be pushing unlocked for cheap.
The Nexus 4 definitely isn't for me, but come on now. |
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| said by steven s:From what I've heard, there is no LTE because then the phone would become carrier controlled, as with the Verizon and Sprint Galaxy Nexus, and Google would be forced to compromise. Also, there is no way you are going to be able to sell an LTE phone for $300 unlocked, and Google seems to be pushing unlocked for cheap.
This is surely the case but I'm not sure why Google won't just say they're trying to make the best phone they can for the lowest cost. That would be better than excuses.
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| Yeah, I don't know why they're not making a bigger deal about this phone being 300-350 bucks OFF CONTRACT. That's half the price of an iPhone off contract. |
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steven sPremium
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said by bobjohnson:said by steven s:From what I've heard, there is no LTE because then the phone would become carrier controlled, as with the Verizon and Sprint Galaxy Nexus, and Google would be forced to compromise. Also, there is no way you are going to be able to sell an LTE phone for $300 unlocked, and Google seems to be pushing unlocked for cheap.
This is surely the case but I'm not sure why Google won't just say they're trying to make the best phone they can for the lowest cost. That would be better than excuses. Yeah, I find Google's response puzzling. |
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00000 | You have to read between the lines on Google's explanation. They don't want to alienate their business partners (Verizon, AT&T, etc.) that are happy with the status quo. However, Google wants to push their own device that isn't controlled by carriers, and this is the only way to do that. Everyone knows how Verizon completely trashed the Samsung Galaxy Nexus experience, and no one -- Google or fans of Nexus devices -- want a repeat of that situation. |
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 Count ZeroObama-Biden 2012Premium
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Winston Salem, NC | reply to steven s
That's total malarky. The VZW iPhone 5 is sold carrier unlocked by default due to their deal with the government for some of the frequencies they bought for their LTE network. And you can (or will be able to buy when supply catches up to demand) an unlocked AT&T iPhone 5 with LTE. |
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Exactly, LTE on Verizon especially and even AT&T inserts too much carrier control of the device, which is exactly what the nexus brand tries to avoid.
Next year you'll see a nexus with LTE bands for T-mobile definitely as they work with google the best on nexus devices, and probably AT&T since LTE radios will have improved and become cheaper and are still based on GSM/HSPA which doesn't require carrier involvement.
To put a lot of work into just an AT&T LTE nexus 4 would have been a waste of time, the nexus line is never a huge seller and the AT&T LTE network is still tiny. |
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Kamus
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El Paso, TX | reply to Count Zero
said by Count Zero:That's total malarky. The VZW iPhone 5 is sold carrier unlocked by default due to their deal with the government for some of the frequencies they bought for their LTE network. And you can (or will be able to buy when supply catches up to demand) an unlocked AT&T iPhone 5 with LTE.
Outside the US the lack of LTE is a non factor to most countries.
Sure, it would've been nice to have an LTE radio at least as an option, but this is still a much, much better value than an iPhone 5 that costs more than twice as much.
To me the really interesting thing here is just how narrow the gap has become in performance between expensive and much cheaper devices.
Lets see for how much longer targeting consumers with "more money than sense" keeps being as insanely profitable as it is.
I don't think the demand will simply vanish because of devices like these, but it has to have a significant impact down the road. |
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