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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to creed3020

Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

said by creed3020:

Or am I completely misunderstanding your question?

You are. I also said later on in the thread I'm pretty sure those upstream speeds do not include bumps due to the upstream channel bonding. If not then those speeds are pretty weak.


d4m1r

join:2011-08-25
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reply to HiVolt

said by HiVolt:

Marc, can you inquire with Rogers when they plan to speedmatch the two tiers that they are providing on TPIA non aggregated?

Extreme: 35/3
Express: 25/2

No response to the above? :/
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koreyb
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join:2005-01-08
East York, ON
reply to epsilon3

I for one will be downgrading once Rogers ups the upload speeds on Express. I don't need more than 2mb up, nor more than 18mb down but I do need at least 1mb up



TSI Andre
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reply to d4m1r

said by d4m1r:

said by HiVolt:

Marc, can you inquire with Rogers when they plan to speedmatch the two tiers that they are providing on TPIA non aggregated?

Extreme: 35/3
Express: 25/2

No response to the above? :/

I believe we submitted an inquiry today to get a little more details
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Insilin1i

join:2010-07-15
Toronto, ON
reply to epsilon3

I really hope we get the upload upgrades, I have been on 1 Mb upload for 10 years. I think it's time for an upgrade.

Though it's only worth it if theres no congestion.


34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by Insilin1i:

Though it's only worth it if theres no congestion.

That is the whole point of the upstream channel bonding. To provide the necessary upstream bandwidth. Although they have a long way to go and
should be bringing in the 8 channel upstream modems as soon as possible.


TwiztedZero
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Toronto, ON
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said by 34764170:

said by Insilin1i:

Though it's only worth it if theres no congestion.

That is the whole point of the upstream channel bonding. To provide the necessary upstream bandwidth. Although they have a long way to go and
should be bringing in the 8 channel upstream modems as soon as possible.

There will only be 4 channel upstreams on DOCSIS 3.0 as far as I know. 8 channels are being worked on for DOCSIS 3.1, and I doubt very much we'll be seeing that anywhere in Canada for quite some time as CableLabs is still working on that standard with hopes of seeing some itterations at the device equipment level around 2014. (Best guess Comcast markets will have it first down in the States.)
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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

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said by TwiztedZero:

There will only be 4 channel upstreams on DOCSIS 3.0 as far as I know.

Incorrect. There is no defined limit to the number of channels with DOCSIS 3.0. Broadcom and Intel will have DOCSIS 3.0 32 x 8 chipsets out by the middle of next year.


asfsf3

@teksavvy.com
reply to 34764170

what's sad is that im only getting 10mbps out of my 18mbps connection (((



tristen1230

join:2010-12-26
Belleville, ON
reply to epsilon3

With Teksavvy now getting Cogeco Cable in many areas I do not think they need to worry much and Rogers is overpriced.



TwiztedZero
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reply to 34764170

said by 34764170:

said by TwiztedZero:

There will only be 4 channel upstreams on DOCSIS 3.0 as far as I know.

Incorrect. There is no defined limit to the number of channels with DOCSIS 3.0. Broadcom and Intel will have DOCSIS 3.0 32 x 8 chipsets out by the middle of next year.

Hmmm yeah thats a possiblity since D3.0 and D3.1 use different signal spectrums with the later using higher QAM modulations.
I think I'll set aside some time to go over the DOCSIS specs again and get myself caught up.
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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON

said by TwiztedZero:

Hmmm yeah thats a possiblity since D3.0 and D3.1 use different signal spectrums with the later using higher QAM modulations.
I think I'll set aside some time to go over the DOCSIS specs again and get myself caught up.

3.1 will be using different modulation techniques to increase the efficiency of the spectrum being used. 3.0/3.1 will co-exist just as 3.0 does with 2.0. 3.1 will have a very heavy focus on upstream speeds since that is DOCSIS' achilles heel.

34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to asfsf3

said by asfsf3 :

what's sad is that im only getting 10mbps out of my 18mbps connection (((

What time of day and what modem are you using?

bbhog

join:2010-07-05
North York, ON
reply to epsilon3

Awesome, we were just talking about the upload speeds earlier in the week and then it gets announced
I'm on 28/1. I was quite happy when it was 24/1 and I could definitely be satisfied with 25/2 going forward. However I'm excited to get 35/3 and will probably keep the service as is.

I really don't like Rogers, and hope never to be a direct customer, but you have to admit, as a TPIA rogers cable subscriber they have been very good to us.



metalhawk

join:2007-02-06
Nepean, ON

said by bbhog:

but you have to admit, as a TPIA rogers cable subscriber they have been very good to us.

It's not by choice. If they were not mandated by the CRTC we would be lucky to get 5/0.5 (or even less) for a lot more than we're paying now.


jmck
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join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON
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reply to epsilon3

The new packages make Extreme Plus significantly better than Extreme (currently only a 4Mbit difference, same upload) and might actually make me consider jumping to Start.ca which offers that package unlike TSI. The increased upstream is what really interests me and might actually allow me to do some streaming.


Webslingerac

join:2004-05-01
canada

said by jmck:

The new packages make Extreme Plus significantly better than Extreme (currently only a 4Mbit difference, same upload) and might actually make me consider jumping to Start.ca which offers that package unlike TSI.

Yeah, it's really about time that Teksavvy started to address aggregated POIs. I would prefer to stay with Teksavvy, but . . .


jmck
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Ottawa, ON
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i raised the aggregated POI issue in an earlier thread asking TSI if/when they plan to move to it but got no response.

also unless I'm blind, there doesn't seem to be a Start.ca DSLreports forum, so i was curious if the monthly caps were the same situation as TSI/Rogers where they have no way to currently monitor your usage.


mjollymo

join:2011-05-07
Nepean, ON

said by jmck:

i raised the aggregated POI issue in an earlier thread asking TSI if/when they plan to move to it but got no response.

also unless I'm blind, there doesn't seem to be a Start.ca DSLreports forum, so i was curious if the monthly caps were the same situation as TSI/Rogers where they have no way to currently monitor your usage.

Here you go »Start Communications

I am on the fence between TSI and Start. I like TSI for their unlimited package, but I am liking Start for the higher speed tiers. I have some time to decide before my Rogers contract is up, may wait and see how the upgrade in speeds plays out.


mike21321

@teksavvy.com

agreed if tech savvy doesn't get this speed bump and start.ca does because they are on aggregated POI im gonna be jumping ship especially because i wont have to pay the 50* activation fee and already bought my modem from techsavvy.


resa1983
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join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:10
reply to jmck

said by jmck:

i raised the aggregated POI issue in an earlier thread asking TSI if/when they plan to move to it but got no response.

also unless I'm blind, there doesn't seem to be a Start.ca DSLreports forum, so i was curious if the monthly caps were the same situation as TSI/Rogers where they have no way to currently monitor your usage.

Probably holding off as long as possible due to higher prices compared to current non-agg prices. Also, they'd have to pay a ton of fees to set up the new POI - you know that Rogers will try to find a way to charge TSI twice.. "Oh, you need to pay for these routers." Meanwhile, Rogers just moves them from one POI to York Mills' agg, and gets paid twice.
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MJB

join:2012-01-29
reply to epsilon3

it's time for canada and usa to stand up for better internet prices and speed..

example 500 mbits download / 250mbits upload
unlimited internet

for 59.99



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...and as the technician goes to connect your 500 Mbps connection you wake up and go "man that would be awesome!"
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Upsidedown

@utoronto.ca

said by TSI Jon:

...and as the technician goes to connect your 500 Mbps connection you wake up and go "man that would be awesome!"

My brother has 1G/1G fiber in Stockholm and hes paying a hundred something USD equivalent a month. Canada and the US wont be seeing anything close to that within 10 years.

stevey_frac

join:2009-12-09
Cambridge, ON
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reply to epsilon3

So, I'm on the 28 / 1 package currently. Assuming Rogers rolls out their new speeds, and Teksavvy picks them up, and passes them to their customers, does this mean i'll be getting 35/2?

The double the upload would be nice.

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34764170

join:2007-09-06
Etobicoke, ON
reply to Webslingerac

said by Webslingerac:

Yeah, it's really about time that Teksavvy started to address aggregated POIs. I would prefer to stay with Teksavvy, but . . .

Yeah, it's really about time that Start started to address the lack of unlimited options.

buttaknife

join:2007-06-01
reply to Upsidedown

said by Upsidedown :

said by TSI Jon:

...and as the technician goes to connect your 500 Mbps connection you wake up and go "man that would be awesome!"

My brother has 1G/1G fiber in Stockholm and hes paying a hundred something USD equivalent a month. Canada and the US wont be seeing anything close to that within 10 years.

The only fiber we be getting is the the "fibre" in our cereals.


mlerner
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join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
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said by buttaknife:

said by Upsidedown :

said by TSI Jon:

...and as the technician goes to connect your 500 Mbps connection you wake up and go "man that would be awesome!"

My brother has 1G/1G fiber in Stockholm and hes paying a hundred something USD equivalent a month. Canada and the US wont be seeing anything close to that within 10 years.

The only fiber we be getting is the the "fibre" in our cereals.

Only if you live within 2 km of select grocery stores.


tristen1230

join:2010-12-26
Belleville, ON
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reply to epsilon3

How hard is it to offer Fiber or 1Gig internet. For christ sake this is the 21st century. Why is Canada and the US especially Canada lacking so much on Internet. You go to the UK Unlimited fast speed cheap while here in Canada you got Hell, Robbers and Cogeco capping you and small speeds at high prices.


mlord

join:2006-11-05
Nepean, ON
kudos:13

Not all of Canada is so backward.

Much of my family, spread out around New Brunswick as they be, have FTTH, with offerings such as 75/75 mbit/sec and no caps. Here in Ontario, we have more choices, none of them nearly as good.