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TwiztedZero
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Re: New speeds Rogers cable - Teksavvy watch out

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There will only be 4 channel upstreams on DOCSIS 3.0 as far as I know.

Incorrect. There is no defined limit to the number of channels with DOCSIS 3.0. Broadcom and Intel will have DOCSIS 3.0 32 x 8 chipsets out by the middle of next year.

Hmmm yeah thats a possiblity since D3.0 and D3.1 use different signal spectrums with the later using higher QAM modulations.
I think I'll set aside some time to go over the DOCSIS specs again and get myself caught up.
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said by TwiztedZero:

Hmmm yeah thats a possiblity since D3.0 and D3.1 use different signal spectrums with the later using higher QAM modulations.
I think I'll set aside some time to go over the DOCSIS specs again and get myself caught up.

3.1 will be using different modulation techniques to increase the efficiency of the spectrum being used. 3.0/3.1 will co-exist just as 3.0 does with 2.0. 3.1 will have a very heavy focus on upstream speeds since that is DOCSIS' achilles heel.
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what's sad is that im only getting 10mbps out of my 18mbps connection (((

What time of day and what modem are you using?
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Awesome, we were just talking about the upload speeds earlier in the week and then it gets announced
I'm on 28/1. I was quite happy when it was 24/1 and I could definitely be satisfied with 25/2 going forward. However I'm excited to get 35/3 and will probably keep the service as is.

I really don't like Rogers, and hope never to be a direct customer, but you have to admit, as a TPIA rogers cable subscriber they have been very good to us.

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said by bbhog:

but you have to admit, as a TPIA rogers cable subscriber they have been very good to us.

It's not by choice. If they were not mandated by the CRTC we would be lucky to get 5/0.5 (or even less) for a lot more than we're paying now.

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The new packages make Extreme Plus significantly better than Extreme (currently only a 4Mbit difference, same upload) and might actually make me consider jumping to Start.ca which offers that package unlike TSI. The increased upstream is what really interests me and might actually allow me to do some streaming.
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said by jmck:

The new packages make Extreme Plus significantly better than Extreme (currently only a 4Mbit difference, same upload) and might actually make me consider jumping to Start.ca which offers that package unlike TSI.

Yeah, it's really about time that Teksavvy started to address aggregated POIs. I would prefer to stay with Teksavvy, but . . .

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i raised the aggregated POI issue in an earlier thread asking TSI if/when they plan to move to it but got no response.

also unless I'm blind, there doesn't seem to be a Start.ca DSLreports forum, so i was curious if the monthly caps were the same situation as TSI/Rogers where they have no way to currently monitor your usage.
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said by jmck:

i raised the aggregated POI issue in an earlier thread asking TSI if/when they plan to move to it but got no response.

also unless I'm blind, there doesn't seem to be a Start.ca DSLreports forum, so i was curious if the monthly caps were the same situation as TSI/Rogers where they have no way to currently monitor your usage.

Here you go »Start.ca

I am on the fence between TSI and Start. I like TSI for their unlimited package, but I am liking Start for the higher speed tiers. I have some time to decide before my Rogers contract is up, may wait and see how the upgrade in speeds plays out.

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agreed if tech savvy doesn't get this speed bump and start.ca does because they are on aggregated POI im gonna be jumping ship especially because i wont have to pay the 50* activation fee and already bought my modem from techsavvy.
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said by jmck:

i raised the aggregated POI issue in an earlier thread asking TSI if/when they plan to move to it but got no response.

also unless I'm blind, there doesn't seem to be a Start.ca DSLreports forum, so i was curious if the monthly caps were the same situation as TSI/Rogers where they have no way to currently monitor your usage.

Probably holding off as long as possible due to higher prices compared to current non-agg prices. Also, they'd have to pay a ton of fees to set up the new POI - you know that Rogers will try to find a way to charge TSI twice.. "Oh, you need to pay for these routers." Meanwhile, Rogers just moves them from one POI to York Mills' agg, and gets paid twice.

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it's time for canada and usa to stand up for better internet prices and speed..

example 500 mbits download / 250mbits upload
unlimited internet

for 59.99

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...and as the technician goes to connect your 500 Mbps connection you wake up and go "man that would be awesome!"

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said by TSI Jonathan:

...and as the technician goes to connect your 500 Mbps connection you wake up and go "man that would be awesome!"

My brother has 1G/1G fiber in Stockholm and hes paying a hundred something USD equivalent a month. Canada and the US wont be seeing anything close to that within 10 years.
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So, I'm on the 28 / 1 package currently. Assuming Rogers rolls out their new speeds, and Teksavvy picks them up, and passes them to their customers, does this mean i'll be getting 35/2?

The double the upload would be nice.

--Steve
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said by Webslinger:

Yeah, it's really about time that Teksavvy started to address aggregated POIs. I would prefer to stay with Teksavvy, but . . .

Yeah, it's really about time that Start started to address the lack of unlimited options.
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said by Upsidedown :

said by TSI Jonathan:

...and as the technician goes to connect your 500 Mbps connection you wake up and go "man that would be awesome!"

My brother has 1G/1G fiber in Stockholm and hes paying a hundred something USD equivalent a month. Canada and the US wont be seeing anything close to that within 10 years.

The only fiber we be getting is the the "fibre" in our cereals.

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said by buttaknife:

said by Upsidedown :

said by TSI Jonathan:

...and as the technician goes to connect your 500 Mbps connection you wake up and go "man that would be awesome!"

My brother has 1G/1G fiber in Stockholm and hes paying a hundred something USD equivalent a month. Canada and the US wont be seeing anything close to that within 10 years.

The only fiber we be getting is the the "fibre" in our cereals.

Only if you live within 2 km of select grocery stores.

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How hard is it to offer Fiber or 1Gig internet. For christ sake this is the 21st century. Why is Canada and the US especially Canada lacking so much on Internet. You go to the UK Unlimited fast speed cheap while here in Canada you got Hell, Robbers and Cogeco capping you and small speeds at high prices.
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Not all of Canada is so backward.

Much of my family, spread out around New Brunswick as they be, have FTTH, with offerings such as 75/75 mbit/sec and no caps. Here in Ontario, we have more choices, none of them nearly as good.
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said by tristen1230:

How hard is it to offer Fiber or 1Gig internet. For christ sake this is the 21st century. Why is Canada and the US especially Canada lacking so much on Internet. You go to the UK Unlimited fast speed cheap while here in Canada you got Hell, Robbers and Cogeco capping you and small speeds at high prices.

1Gb Internet implies the use of fibre. Personally I don't care so much about GigE Internet connections. What is more important is setting the bar high enough for everyone. I'd rather see almost everyone with the ability to acquire a 100Mbps Internet connection and for reasonable pricing than say 5% - 10% of the population having access to GigE meanwhile so many are lucky to have a 3Mbps connection.

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said by 34764170:

said by Webslinger:

Yeah, it's really about time that Teksavvy started to address aggregated POIs. I would prefer to stay with Teksavvy, but . . .

Yeah, it's really about time that Start started to address the lack of unlimited options.

For Rogers territory, Start is currently unlimited. Like TSI Rogers provides no usage tracking to them.

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said by stevey_frac:

So, I'm on the 28 / 1 package currently. Assuming Rogers rolls out their new speeds, and Teksavvy picks them up, and passes them to their customers, does this mean i'll be getting 35/2?

It should be 35/3. I'm stoked.

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How fast does Docsis 2 allow for upstream? (single channel) I'm hoping that our express customers won't be affected when the speed changes start to apply.
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said by jmck:

For Rogers territory, Start is currently unlimited. Like TSI Rogers provides no usage tracking to them.

Its a moot point when I already have proper options for unlimited. I am not going to move to Start just to knowingly defraud them for no gain for myself.

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said by JenSuisUn:

How fast does Docsis 2 allow for upstream? (single channel) I'm hoping that our express customers won't be affected when the speed changes start to apply.

"""D2 is theoretically capable of 2mbit upload (in fact 2.7mbit per this »docsis.org/node/69)"""
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said by Teddy Boom:

"""D2 is theoretically capable of 2mbit upload (in fact 2.7mbit per this »docsis.org/node/69)"""

You'll probably be lucky to achieve 1Mbps at peak hours with so many TPIA users trying to stretch out D2 modems. The TPIA users just screw themselves.
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said by 34764170:

said by Webslinger:

Yeah, it's really about time that Teksavvy started to address aggregated POIs. I would prefer to stay with Teksavvy, but . . .

Yeah, it's really about time that Start started to address the lack of unlimited options.

I'm not on an unlimited plan with Teksavvy currently--nor will I ever come close to 400Gb per month, so I couldn't possibly care less. But sure, Start should offer unlimited plans at higher tiers.
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said by Webslinger:

I'm not on an unlimited plan with Teksavvy currently--nor will I ever come close to 400Gb per month, so I couldn't possibly care less. But sure, Start should offer unlimited plans at higher tiers.

I am and for the speed tier I want its 200GB. I'd easily go over that every single month.