 damirSFRJPremium
join:2003-05-24 | reply to nirajshah7
Re: Speed bump in Rogers Areas? How i see it, if rogers upgrade the area where you at, you will get new speeds right away.
Start doesn't have to do anything (nor they can i think)
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damirSFRJPremium
join:2003-05-24 | I don't think that is available.
It would be 10 km long list :P
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 Teddy Boomk kudos Received
join:2007-01-29
Toronto, ON
kudos:7 | reply to nirajshah7
We don't know. What we do know:
Speed matching: The CRTC has ruled that Rogers must offer speed matching to the small companies. Rogers cooperates with that ruling. However, they get to delay, and they play other shenanigans like giving some TPIA providers access to all packages while restricting access to slower packages for other TPIA providers.
TPIA choice: The provider (aka TPIA, aka Start, Teksavvy, Distributel, and maybe CIK) can choose not to be upgraded. For example, Teksavvy has chosen not to automatically upgrade all 3mbit customers to the new 6mbit service, and I believe that Distributel decided not to accept the 12/24 mbit upgrades for a few months after it became available to them.
It would be great to have any more information than we currently have! 
(for example, how does the TPIA choice thing actually work on the ground?)
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 roccaStart.caPremium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:12 | Waiting for the official details still. As soon as we know I'll update here. Thanks.  |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 | Well, the retail details are official and live on the Rogers website. Hopefully the TPIA details aren't far behind! |
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damirSFRJPremium
join:2003-05-24 | 
Yep ! ... r we all getting this?:P
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 GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:3 | Former FutureWay areas? |
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 brassy
join:2004-01-09
Brantford, ON
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how about the 30/10 plan with 500 gb quota only available out East. 
Guess when there is some semblance of competition, Rogers can actually have something half descent. Of course that will never happen in Ontario.  |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 Reviews:
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said by Gone:Former FutureWay areas?
Likely a handful of new condos where they installed FTTH then converted to coax on-premises, like TrailWest in Ottawa. |
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damirSFRJPremium
join:2003-05-24 | I don't think i am going to see this upgrade any time soon, my upstream modulation is still 16QAM.
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GonePremium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:3 Reviews:
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said by bt:Likely a handful of new condos where they installed FTTH then converted to coax on-premises, like TrailWest in Ottawa. Cogeco and Shaw already have a whole shitload of direct fibre to the home in new developments, to which they convert at the home and otherwise have it function the same way as everyone else's coax. Removing that step and going directly to fibre isn't hard to do. I suspect that there might be more of this out there in Rogersland than one would suspect, particularly since they took over Futureway who were the first to do this 10-15 years ago. |
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Do we need the 64QAM for the higher speeds...? |
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Cable Signal Details
Forward Path:
Channel Frequency Power SNR BER Modulation
1 591.0 MHz 0.5 dBmV 38.6 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
2 597.0 MHz 0.2 dBmV 38.1 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
3 603.0 MHz 0.3 dBmV 37.8 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
4 609.0 MHz 0.2 dBmV 38.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
5 615.0 MHz 0.8 dBmV 38.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
6 621.0 MHz 1.0 dBmV 37.6 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
7 633.0 MHz 1.3 dBmV 37.2 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
8 639.0 MHz 0.8 dBmV 37.5 dB 0.000 % 256 QAM
Return Path:
Channel ID Frequency Power Modulation
3 22.1 MHz 34.0 dBmV 16 QAM
1 31.3 MHz 34.0 dBmV 16 QAM
2 25.3 MHz 34.0 dBmV 16 QAM
4 38.6 MHz 35.5 dBmV 16 QAM
Guys... is my signal level good for 3 mbps upload |
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roccaStart.caPremium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:12 | reply to rocca
Just a quick update.
Unlike in the past when they have issued speed changes on their retail tiers which have flowed down to wholesale, this time they have decided to remove the old packages and introduce 'new' ones at higher prices. It's still early in the process, but we're on it and will continue to update as things progress. |
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damirSFRJPremium
join:2003-05-24 | Do you think you will be increasing prices as well, or?
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roccaStart.caPremium
join:2008-11-16
London, ON
kudos:12 | It's too early to know yet, depends how the commission reacts. If there is an increase though, our existing customers will be able to stay on their current packages/pricing if they don't want to change. |
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Teddy Boomk kudos Received
join:2007-01-29
Toronto, ON
kudos:7 | reply to rocca
said by rocca:Unlike in the past when they have issued speed changes on their retail tiers which have flowed down to wholesale, this time they have decided to remove the old packages and introduce 'new' ones at higher prices. It's still early in the process, but we're on it and will continue to update as things progress. So we are going to see a back and fourth similar to the one around the 3mbit to 6mbit upgrade, I guess? From the Teksavvy thread on that issue:
»Re: Lite goes from 3mbit/s to 6mbit/s for Rogers customers
said by Teddy Boom:said by andyb:Who where what said anything was filed on the 15th? Nothing was filed on the tariff notices and I recieved zippo from any company about 2011-703/4 on the 15th or 16th
An August 27th letter from Rogers: 1. Rogers Communications Partnership (“Rogers”) herein files its reply comments associated with Rogers’ Tariff Notice 25 (“TN 25”) responding to comments received on August 9, 2012 from CNOC Inc.
2. CNOC proposes that the Commission not process Rogers TN 25 further until the Commission has rendered its determinations in the various Part I Applications to review and vary TRP 2011-703 (“Part I Applications”). CNOC submits that it would make sense for Rogers to file a cost study for 6 Mbps aggregated POI TPIA service only after the Commission has ruled on the various Part I Applications in order to eliminate the prospect of wasteful multiple cost studies.
3. Rogers agrees with CNOC that multiple cost studies would indeed be wasteful. Therefore, Rogers is amenable to maintaining the 6 Mbps rate filed in TN 25 on July 18th and approved on an interim basis in Telecom Order CRTC 2012-435 on an ongoing interim basis. After the final disposition of the Part I Applications, Rogers will file a revised tariff rate with supporting cost study. The rate that is ultimately approved by the Commission based on the cost study would then be made retro-active to October 1, 2012. October 1, 2012 is approximately the date at which a 6 Mbps tariff based on a revised cost study filed on September 15, 2012 would typically have been approved on an interim basis.
4. This approach will avoid parties incurring the cost of multiple cost studies while according Rogers the same ability to recover its costs as if it had filed a revised tariff and supporting cost study on September 15, 2012 as originally proposed in TN 25.
Yours very truly,
David Watt
Vice President
Regulatory Telecommunications
Copy: Interested Not sure I'm reading it right, I'm not normally the first one to interpret this stuff (jfmezei, we need your crazy ass back here please!!!)
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god damn it rogers, why did you have to go do that now  |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 Reviews:
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said by rocca:Unlike in the past when they have issued speed changes on their retail tiers which have flowed down to wholesale, this time they have decided to remove the old packages and introduce 'new' ones at higher prices.
I somewhat get that for 150/10 and 6/0.25, as those have higher retail prices than the speeds they've replaced.
But I'll be interested to see their justification for doing that with the other tiers, with the retail pricing staying the same. |
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